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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:29 AM Jul 2012

Source: Penn State will be fined at least $30 million as well as

at least a 3 year post-season ban. A 3 year ban will allow players to transfer immediately without penalty. In addition, there will be a significant loss of scholarships.

Wow!

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Source: Penn State will be fined at least $30 million as well as (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 OP
I was hoping for a 5 year death penalty HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #1
An ethics conference for coaches jberryhill Jul 2012 #3
Vegas??? Skidmore Jul 2012 #15
Who gets the $30 million? jberryhill Jul 2012 #2
The money is supposedly going Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #5
OK, thats cool. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #9
Hate to put current students/players in such positions. elleng Jul 2012 #4
3 year ban starts this year. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #6
Its not reasonable, imo, elleng Jul 2012 #8
Yes, no bowl games for three years. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #11
OK. elleng Jul 2012 #13
Players can stay, or transfer without penalty. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #7
Should be that way, imo, elleng Jul 2012 #10
Post season - bowl game - ban for three years. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #12
$30 million may seem like a lot. But eight months ago, it was reported that AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #14
IMO, this is a message to other NCAA schools justiceischeap Jul 2012 #16
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. I was hoping for a 5 year death penalty
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:33 AM
Jul 2012

but thats not bad. I hope NCAA does something appropriate with the fine, like counseling, scholarships,etc for the victims.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Who gets the $30 million?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:34 AM
Jul 2012

Damn, how cool would that be - to be in a position to get a pile of money for something someone did to someone else.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. OK, thats cool.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:49 AM
Jul 2012

Its possible the money couldn't go to directly help the victims due to legal settlements or something.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
4. Hate to put current students/players in such positions.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:34 AM
Jul 2012

Maybe make the ban effective after current players have graduated? Or is that what '3 year post-season ban' means?

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
6. 3 year ban starts this year.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:40 AM
Jul 2012

When the NCAA hands down any penalties, they punish some who are innocent. USC is just finishing their part of bowl sanctions. They have done a remarkable job keeping the program on track. Some are putting them at #1 in preseason polls.
Why should PSU be exempt?

elleng

(130,908 posts)
8. Its not reasonable, imo,
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:48 AM
Jul 2012

in any circumstances, to put innocent students in such situations. As to bowl sanctions, that means school may not appear in bowl games? Need to see what the 'ban' constitutes.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Yes, no bowl games for three years.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:55 AM
Jul 2012

And theres also scholarships limit, that will likely take many years to recover from.

Current players can stay on team and keep scholarship, or can transfer to another school without sitting out a year. Thats the best that can be done for them under the circumstances.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. Players can stay, or transfer without penalty.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:44 AM
Jul 2012

Pretty standard, when players weren't involved with the misdeed.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. Post season - bowl game - ban for three years.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:56 AM
Jul 2012

Incidents only involved football program. Other sports unaffected afaik... Although they had a real shit for a womans basketball coach for several years that Paterno protected. Open and outspoken homophobe. That should have drawn penaltiy.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
14. $30 million may seem like a lot. But eight months ago, it was reported that
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:28 AM
Jul 2012
Penn State football lures tens of thousands of new students each year, and deep-pocketed alumni ensure donations keep rolling in.

This economic engine rivals profit margins of major U.S. corporations — generating $72.7 million in gross revenue and $53.2 million in profit last year.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/for_people_around_the_world_pe.html


In addition, the $30 million may be covered at least in part by insurance and tax deductions for the loss. Penn State may also have insurance for the loss of revenue for the next three years. No one should think that they are going to be hurt too badly by this.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
16. IMO, this is a message to other NCAA schools
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 07:46 AM
Jul 2012

you protect your program over innocent kids, you think football is more important than child rape, we're going to hit you where it hurts, in your wallet. They will lose good player candidates for the next 3 years as well. It's a good punishment. Yes, they could have gone further, I mean rape is much more heinous than paying student athletes but the fact that the NCAA is taking a stand is good.

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