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To be calling Flynn a liar they way they are:
Flynn expected his legal bills to be paid...they weren't
He expected a pardon, his brother even asked for one on twitter.......A No On That
Now they're calling Flynn a liar
Flynn is not a nice guy who helped the Dumpster get elected and now he has been betrayed bigly.
Thus it seems to me they are in effect daring him to fulfill their worst fears. His brother used the words 'all their corruption' in his tweet.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Flynn
Mueller
The Dossier
Collusion
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)Do not disappoint.
lastlib
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BigmanPigman
(51,632 posts)is currently being dealt with the reply, "I am not addressing a pardon at this time" by the fucking moron?
Me.
(35,454 posts)To mess w/Flynn who is already angry about no lawyer fees
Me.
(35,454 posts)'cause now it's obstruction
Orsino
(37,428 posts)He's just tap-dancing, and poorly. He's long past being able to keep up with the lies crafted to support him.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)over, but Trumpy tunes them out. Trumpy doesn't have a clue how bad it will be on him since he's never been held accountable for anything.
herding cats
(19,568 posts)Which seems foolish since they dont know what Mueller already has documented.
In this game of cat and mouse, it does appear theyre the mouse and Muellers the cat toying with his prey.
Time will tell, of course, but their strategy seems shallow and shortsighted looking at it from the outside.
H2O Man
(73,622 posts)And to think this is the outgrowth of the argument that Trump's legal team engaged in, in the parking lot, after meeting with Mr. Mueller!
Recommended, of course.
(And I might just expand on this very topic soon.)
Because I simply can't understand why they'd poke at a wasp aka Flynn.
The legal team is inappropriate, in that they have both White House and Trump's lawyer, which represent different -- though overlapping -- interests. In theory, the White House lawyer is supposed to represent the institution of the White House; in practice, it is representing the interests of those close to Trump, and Trump. And, of course, Trump's lawyer represents him.
The attack on Flynn is primarily geared to protect Jared and Junior. Trump's lawyer knows it is a foolish tactic. But both interests have to deal with Trump, who must know (at some level) that the investigation won't end by next week, and that he isn't going to get a letter from Mr. Mueller certifying he is without sin. The bullshit about Trump being confident, as reported last week, isn't real. He is going nuts. He is tweeting crazy shit.
Hence, the White House lawyers are trying to keep him from exploding in what is a high-risk gamble.
didn't I see somewhere that McGann (?) may have Russian connections of his own?
H2O Man
(73,622 posts)There are also several republicans in Congress who have connection$, who "coincidentally" are leading the attacks on Mr. Mueller and the FBI. Small world, at least for the corrupted rats. And it's getting smaller, and uncomfortably tight.
Me.
(35,454 posts)have PACs that rec'd Russian money. What about Lindsey? And of course, there's Rohrbacher.
H2O Man
(73,622 posts)of particular interest right now is Devon Nunes. His "family" wine business is 50% owned by a Russian hoodlum.
Forgot about him and didn't know about the winery
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)Link to tweet
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Renew Deal
(81,875 posts)He was "fired" for lying to Pence. He was convicted for lying to the FBI. He was fired by Obama for being a crank. Their best move is to attack his credibility. He's probably going to talk either way.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)Renew Deal
(81,875 posts)But I'm sure Flynn can prove they are liars. They have proven it themselves.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Caliman73
(11,744 posts)"Mr. Trump, why did you appoint a known liar the be your National Security Adviser even after being warned by President Obama not to take him on?"
Trump comes out of this looking like an idiot (which he is) or complicit in dealing with the Russians (which he is).
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)In the same way, Pence was selected to be VP by Russian agent Paul Manafort. That order came from Putin.
The hierarchy in the Kremlin and in the Oligopoly is very autocratic. Everything flows under Putin's watch.
Me.
(35,454 posts)is important to remember when they say Pence didn't know
Me.
(35,454 posts)They said that before it all blew up in their faces. I think Pence was well aware of what Flynn was up to, after all by that time he was in charge of the campaign
Renew Deal
(81,875 posts)And if he was lying, Trump certainly didn't mind until it became public
malaise
(269,185 posts)own son? Guess he thinks everyone is like him.
Me.
(35,454 posts)can't imagine anyone being more important than him
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)trumped family ties?
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)Besides, Flynn is not exactly an even-tempered kind of guy
Did they think he wouldn't get even?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Somehow it must still pay well, as there are still some hangers-on determined to support this president.
If I recall, Trump even screwed over a brother or sister out of their inheritance money. So, even family isn't safe (looking at you two, Jared and Eric...)
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)by Team Trump. If you piss off an important witness like Flynn, you're just digging your grave even deeper