Trump voters see his flaws but stand by president who 'shakes things up'

[turbinetree]

Every Christmas, Jeff and Denise Fox have the neighbors over. The door stays open all day. People come and go for food, coffee and conversation.

The tradition continued after Jeff, 58, was diagnosed with cancer in 2009. Even with chemotherapy and the medical bills racking up, the Foxes found reasons to celebrate. This year, those reasons include their son’s transfer from an air force base in South Korea to one in Germany and, they hope, out of harm’s way.

Last year, the reasons to celebrate included the election of Donald Trump. Both registered Republicans, neither Fox had started as a huge fan of the Manhattan real-estate developer. Jeff supported Carly Fiorina in the sprawling Republican primary contest, and Denise, 54, admired Ben Carson, a fellow evangelical Christian.

Their votes mattered a lot because the Foxes live in Northampton County, Pennsylvania, a bellwether county that voted twice for Barack Obama before backing Trump. The area is home to many ageing Democrats whose family politics were forged from the unionized ranks of Bethlehem Steel, once the region’s economic juggernaut, or in the formerly vibrant clothing mills and slate quarries around the Foxes’ home in Pen Argyl.

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“The only debt we have is healthcare debt,” said Fox, who receives social security and disability payments. “We’ve worked our way out of everything else. It’s amazing what we do with what we get.

“It would be nice for me to say, I got $40,000 of medical bills, so it’d be nice if someone paid them for me. Some would say, ‘It’d be nice, the easy way.’ But it’s real.

“It’s not the responsibility of the government to pay the bills.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/24/trump-voters-see-his-flaws-but-stand-by-president-who-shakes-things-up


So this "guy" doesn't understand that his health care is now in jeopardy and right along with his Social Security and his diability insurance payment he gets each month via the social security and medicare, that he paid for in treasury bonds, which are now going to go to the billionaires and the millionaires, who have the attitude let them eat cake

[BeyondGeography]

1. This IMHO is not an uncommon POV

HRC was a very tough sell with a lot of persuadable voters in PA:

Another woman at the table, Carla DiBernardo, 71, said the 2016 presidential election had represented a tragic missed opportunity – but not for Hillary Clinton.

“Did you see they had Joe Biden on The View?” DiBernardo asked. “And I think he’s a wonderful person. He should have been president. And I was thinking how different it would be, if he had run.”

“He speaks so professionally,” her friend agreed. Everyone at the table thought Biden could have won – and for that matter could win next time.

[uponit7771]

2. Few people are associating thier support of red Don with thier character