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RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:06 PM Dec 2017

The Presidents lawyers' strategy

It appears to me that Trumps lawyers are trying to keep him from firing or pardoning anyone. That doesn't mean that at some point he will lose it and try to do that. I think what they are doing is trying to discredit the investigation to the point that, whenever he is put on trial, that the prosecution will not be able to put together a jury that would convict him. Any criminal conviction has to be unanimous. On impeachment, if Trump is not impeached, it will be disastrous for the Republican Party. Trump and his party will have their biggest lost in a presidential election since Goldwater, and then he will be put on trial. That is what I think is going to happen.

Fox News' obvious coordination on this, is not in the best interest of the country or the party. They are attaching the fate of both to someone whom is not
right in the head.

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The Presidents lawyers' strategy (Original Post) RDANGELO Dec 2017 OP
Over half of Americans would convict him in a heartbeat HopeAgain Dec 2017 #1
I think he will be convicted. RDANGELO Dec 2017 #3
Yes he is trying to taint jury pools, and get public opinion on his side Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #2
... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #4
the difference in 2020 D_Master81 Dec 2017 #5
Hard to disagree with your post. nm Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #7
2016 was STOLEN!!! Abouttime Dec 2017 #8
Exactly my point.... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #9
Did he hire OJ's lawyers? C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #6
You know what would be unprecedented in modern history? sofa king Dec 2017 #10

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
3. I think he will be convicted.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:33 PM
Dec 2017

They might try to get him to plead guilty and tell them everything he knows about Russia for a lighter sentence, but his ego wont let him do it.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
2. Yes he is trying to taint jury pools, and get public opinion on his side
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:30 PM
Dec 2017

by slandering Muller, the FBI and the judicial system.

Trump wants his based stirred up to the level of possible violence.

Trump will shred the Constitution and damage our institutions to save his own skin and that of his family.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
4. ...
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:39 PM
Dec 2017

"Trump and his party will have their biggest lost in a presidential election since Goldwater"

Seems I heard that in the fall of 2016. How did that work out?
The PGIC will not run again for president, even if he is NOT in jail before then.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
5. the difference in 2020
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:54 PM
Dec 2017

I think the difference this time around as opposed to 2016 is that Dems wont take it for granted this time. All i heard here and even from many conservatives was that it was a foregone conclusion that Hillary was going to win. I dont know how that affected turnout or enthusiasm, but I'm guessing that it caused alot of people to not take the election as seriously as they should have. Look at the special elections that have happened over the past year. Dems are doing better than they have in decades. I dont know if its going to be Goldwater like, but states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin that have been more traditional blue will probably flip back, as well as Florida and possibly NC.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
8. 2016 was STOLEN!!!
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:58 PM
Dec 2017

Hillary won the vote going away by MILLIONS!
The FBI has been onto trump for years, the DOJ, CIA, FBI all had trump and his henchmen under surveillance throughout the campaign and years before. Remember Obama said trump would never become President? He knew but unfortunately he had underestimated Putin and trump was able to steal the Presidency.
Mueller has the goods on tRump, he just needs to wait for the exact right time before he snares trump. Impeachment won't be needed, trump will be in custody and our very own armed forces will probably have to restrain him from running to Vlad begging for exile.
Why do you think he's always in south Florida surrounded by oligarchs with private yachts and jets?
On tRumps last trip overseas Obama followed him, why do you think that is? Obama appeared at the same countries just a day or 2 afterward. When trump goes down we will be in an extra-constitutional period, Obama was reassuring world leaders that he will be able, in an advisor role to usher us through the coming storm.
There will be grand bargains and I still think Hillary will end up running for re-election in 2020.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
9. Exactly my point....
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 01:07 PM
Dec 2017

we have no reason to believe that an election in 2020 wont also be stolen like it was in 2000, 2004 and 2016. Hillary will not run for election in 2020. Come back to me in 3 years if I am wrong on this.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
10. You know what would be unprecedented in modern history?
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 03:53 PM
Dec 2017

A Republican President being impeached or prosecuted.

I don't know what world y'all have been living in, but when the walls close in on conservatives, they don't run away. They aim higher.

I think it's a coin toss whether or not there is going to be another election. Ever.

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