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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:38 AM Dec 2017

Franklin Graham: 'Refreshing' that Trump doesn't care 'what the liberals think' on Christmas

BY JOSH DELK - 12/23/17 10:27 AM EST

Rev. Franklin Graham said Saturday that it's "refreshing" that President Trump doesn't care "what the liberals think" of his pledge to destigmatize people wishing "merry Christmas."

"I'm so excited that the president isn't afraid to mention the name of Jesus Christ and that he boldly stands for not only Christ but all religious freedom, and it's refreshing to have a president who's just not afraid and doesn't care what all the liberals think," Graham said on Fox News channel's "Fox & Friends."

Graham, the son of the evangelist Billy Graham and president of Samaritan's Purse, praised the president for following through on his promise that "people will be saying merry Christmas again" upon taking office.

Trump claims the practice of saying "happy holidays" in lieu of mentioning the Christian holiday is a product of "political correctness."

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Franklin Graham: 'Refreshing' that Trump doesn't care 'what the liberals think' on Christmas (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
"... he boldly stands for not only Christ but all religious freedom" left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #1
We get it, liberals are evil, and they're traitors, and they're scum. They killed the dinosaurs. ck4829 Dec 2017 #2
making straw men when snowmen are called for eShirl Dec 2017 #3
I was thinking ... left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #4
Yeah..... Historic NY Dec 2017 #5
Fuck you Franklin! Va Lefty Dec 2017 #6
If anything, Nonhlanhla Dec 2017 #7
This, exactly!! GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #17
It's fun to pretend to be persecuted, I guess. Mariana Dec 2017 #22
drumpf is, at BEST, and agnostic. he doesn't even go to church Takket Dec 2017 #8
Wow, what an inclusive, unifying and CHRISTIAN message... mreilly Dec 2017 #9
Okay. Let's pray for Roy Moore, and Kim Davis dalton99a Dec 2017 #10
Christmas is the birthday of the Roman God Sol Invictus Zorro Dec 2017 #11
Other gods born on Dec. 25: NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #37
It is True. Trump knows he can only pander to non-critical thinking idiots Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #12
Hmm. He just made the top of my list MyNameGoesHere Dec 2017 #13
Laughing so hard! ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #19
Fuck you, Frank. roamer65 Dec 2017 #14
Stupid fucks have nothing better to do then invent nonexistent problems. SamKnause Dec 2017 #15
Gotta keep his flock stirred up - "Jesus is under attack. Send money now" dalton99a Dec 2017 #16
Trump isn't Christian Corgigal Dec 2017 #18
Fuck you Franklin Graham and the Jesus you rode in on. TBA Dec 2017 #20
Jesus was liberal and he'd kick your ass C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #21
There is a war on Christmas, and it's being waged by the RW. Crunchy Frog Dec 2017 #23
It's a war on us and the 'others'. nt Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #25
Yep Cosmocat Dec 2017 #39
He stands for all religious freedom* !!!! Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #24
A chip off the old moneygrubbing bigoted phony pious block. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #26
FU Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #27
Ironic because Jesus was a liberal. SHRED Dec 2017 #28
I wish Franklin would eat shit and die. nt intheozone Dec 2017 #29
Im so tired of being painted as a monster. To shysters like Graham and 45 we are just pawns. nolabear Dec 2017 #30
Wow, what an asshole! Initech Dec 2017 #31
The names Trump and Jesus Christ do not belong in the same sentence. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #32
Everyone wish Frank a happy holidays MrScorpio Dec 2017 #33
The Constitution has no provision for an elected president that only wants to procon Dec 2017 #34
Those pearly gates are going to be locked for you Franklin. CentralMass Dec 2017 #35
It's amazing the giant pile of pig shit tRump smells refreshing to Graham njhoneybadger Dec 2017 #36
Is Graham really that delusional or just a complete fraud? I'm betting fraud. bitterross Dec 2017 #38
Yo, Franklin: Tanuki Dec 2017 #40

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. "... he boldly stands for not only Christ but all religious freedom"
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:48 AM
Dec 2017

That's why Trump wants to ban Muslims,
for their religious freedoms?

ck4829

(35,093 posts)
2. We get it, liberals are evil, and they're traitors, and they're scum. They killed the dinosaurs.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:48 AM
Dec 2017

They don't want you to say Merry Christmas. They want poor people to have rights. Boo. Boo. Two minute hate. Boo.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. I was thinking ...
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dec 2017

I thought his father, Billy Graham, would be disgusted by his son Franklin's beliefs and comments,
but then recall Billy Graham was heard making anti Semitic comments to President Nixon.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
7. If anything,
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:59 AM
Dec 2017

they make me want to NOT say "Merry Christmas" anymore. I used to say it merrily to fellow Christians, alongside Happy Holidays to everyone I knew not to be Christian. If I accidentally said Merry Christmas to someone who did not in fact celebrate Christmas, we would laugh it off and go our merry ways, and if someone said Happy Holidays to me, I would smile and wish them the same, in the spirit of the season. Now these right-wing Christians have made any mention of Christmas toxic. They make me sick.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
17. This, exactly!!
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:07 PM
Dec 2017

I've never felt that I couldn't say Merry Christmas or talk about Jesus if I wanted to. This whole "war on Christmas" bs is a made up right-wing attack line.

Honestly, I have not been in the mood to say Merry Christmas this year to anyone because I don't want people to think I am saying it because Orangefuhrer has ordered it. He really does poison everything.

I'm taking a short politics break. I need it. I am planning to have a Merry Christmas with my family, and wish everyone Happy Holidays with whatever brings you joy this time of year.

Peace to all.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
22. It's fun to pretend to be persecuted, I guess.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:44 PM
Dec 2017

Every single time one of these lying Christians says something to me about how they haven't been "allowed" to say Merry Christmas, I ask, "Has anyone been arrested for saying that? Have any churches been shut down for putting it on their signs? Has there been a law passed anywhere in the US prohibiting it?"

They would also have you believe that one ever said Holiday until recently. Wrong. I've been reading some newspapers from December 1895 recently. Guess what I found? Ads for Holiday sales, stories about Holiday parties, announcements of Holiday events, editorials about the Holiday season, etc. etc. etc. I was actually surprised at how little the word Christmas was used.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
9. Wow, what an inclusive, unifying and CHRISTIAN message...
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:02 PM
Dec 2017

... especially during the holidays.


Love thy neighbor, what you do to the least of them you do to me, turn the other cheek, etc. only applies to fellow right-wing filth, I guess.

Fuck this guy and the horse he rode in on, and may he and his father burn in hell.

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
11. Christmas is the birthday of the Roman God Sol Invictus
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:05 PM
Dec 2017

and is why 25 December was selected as the date of Christ's birth three centuries after he was born.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
37. Other gods born on Dec. 25:
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:36 PM
Dec 2017

Chrishna, of India, born on December 25, 3228 BC, his mother was a virgin, mother’s name was Maia.

Mithra, of Persia, born on December 25, before 1500 BC, his birth was witnessed by Shepherds that brought gifts to honor him.

Horus, of Egypt, born on December 25, before 2500 BC.

Buddha, of India, born on December 25, 563 BC, his mother’s name was Maya (similar to Mary) she was a virgin. He was immaculately conceived, and at birth, he announced that he was a savior to the world. His birth was announced by a star. At his birth, he was visited by Wise Men.

There were many gods who were born of virgins, were sons of gods. The crucifixion story happened in many gods' "lives." Jesus (or the Church) appropriated many of Buddha's ideas.

Not to mention, there are two Nativity stories in the Bible (Matthew and Luke) that contradict each other in important details. Mark doesn't mention the birth at all, and John's gospel is always a weird outlier. He treats Jesus' birth in otherworldly terms; nothing so pedestrian as the manger scene.

As for Franklin Graham: Fuck him.

Freethinker65

(10,064 posts)
12. It is True. Trump knows he can only pander to non-critical thinking idiots
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:09 PM
Dec 2017

The same people Franklin Graham panders to. Their wealth, power, and status depend on targeting their message to people that WILL care.

A majority of critical thinking intelligent Christians and non-Christians know Trump cares only about himself and nothing about Christmas/religion. Franklin Graham knows this as well, but saying so is not good for his business. They (Graham and Trump) both worship the god of money and personal prosperity.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
13. Hmm. He just made the top of my list
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

of people I would like to clobber with a yule log and jam a mistletoe up their nose whilst telling them merry fucking Christmas.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
15. Stupid fucks have nothing better to do then invent nonexistent problems.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:51 PM
Dec 2017

Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays ???

Who gives a flying fuck ???

dalton99a

(81,635 posts)
16. Gotta keep his flock stirred up - "Jesus is under attack. Send money now"
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:02 PM
Dec 2017

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Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
18. Trump isn't Christian
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:15 PM
Dec 2017

I remember him back in those studio 54 days. I remember him as John Baron and his talks with a Howard Stern.

You and your folk are idiots, who don't read much.

Crunchy Frog

(26,659 posts)
23. There is a war on Christmas, and it's being waged by the RW.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:55 PM
Dec 2017

They've practically succeeded in making the words "Merry Christmas" into a synonym for "fuck you".

Their Puritan antecedents tried to ban Christmas completely.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
30. Im so tired of being painted as a monster. To shysters like Graham and 45 we are just pawns.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:11 PM
Dec 2017

How can they use us to advance? How can they make us all hate one another so they can feed off of the carnage? Honestly, one of the biggest supports of there being no God is that these people aren’t running in circles in flaming underwear.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
33. Everyone wish Frank a happy holidays
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:18 PM
Dec 2017

Especially a wonderful winter solstice. Break out the hot wine.

More fun, less unadulterated consumerism.

procon

(15,805 posts)
34. The Constitution has no provision for an elected president that only wants to
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:21 PM
Dec 2017

govern half the country that is loyal to him. Looking at Trump's low polling numbers, it's clear that the public recognizes this narrow mindedness as a serious flaw in a leader. Graham is a religious fanatic, the poster child that demonstrates why it is vital to keep religion separate from politics.

On a side note; charlatans, like this Billy Graham con man, who loudly define their deeply held religious beliefs with specious, shallow and inconsequential slogans, are driving away the very people they depend for their continued wealth and power. Good job!

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
36. It's amazing the giant pile of pig shit tRump smells refreshing to Graham
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:35 PM
Dec 2017

My sincere apologies to all pigs

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