Framing: We should never refer to it as a "tax cut" or "tax reform." It should be called the

[FSogol]

"Corker/Trump Tax Cut"

That way when America wonders why there taxes went up, it is because Corker and Trumps taxes went down.

[Cary]

1. We should deploy their own propaganda right back at them:

Repeal and replace!

[FSogol]

2. +1 n/t

[BigmanPigman]

5. That is what I wrote on one of my protest signs for impeachment.

[samnsara]

3. trumps folly

[Freethinker65]

4. Call it Billionairecare and the GOP kickback

[Maeve]

6. I call it tax deform--it pulls the whole economy out of whack eom

[ProfessorGAC]

7. But We Won't

We're crappy when it comes to framing the debate. If somebody as dull as Luntz can do it, we should be able to do it better. But, we don't.

[Cary]

9. "We" do have a tendency to be negative

VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

[ProfessorGAC]

12. Goes Further, Cary

The R's are getting away with this tax thing because they have 30% of the population thinking it means a new car, or at least a new fridge.

They have people (not all hard right R's) believing this. It's because they have found the right buzzwords that people can easily digest.

I know things are more complicated than buzzwords, but you can still find ways to make ideas and concepts stick in people's heads as a positive even though actually executing will be more complex. The complexity of doing it is irrelevant to the selling of it.

We're bad as the sales part.

[Cary]

13. What "people's heads?"

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The 30% to 35% who support #fakepresident? Ha!

Bannon had a perfect storm last year. They squeaked by with a combination of Comey, voter suppression, Russian interference, and bringing in a hitherto disaffected group of racists and ne'er do wells. You can't reason with this group and you will not "convert" them to any meaningful degree.

You're wrong. The answer is simple and you will see a wave in November because our base is the majority and we are motivated. Negativity is not the answer. Discord and discontent is not the answer. The answer is simple, and even if it isn't the best answer (nothing you can say can convince me that it isn't) then I invoke Occam's Razor.

What's so great, anyway, about sowing discord and discontent? I don't get it. Some people seem to cling to their "right" to be negative and some go all out to make everyone else conform to that "right." What is that, some kind of martyr complex?

Seize the day, ProfessorGAC. Laugh and the whole world laughs with you; cry and you cry alone.

Repeal and replace the tax scam!

[ProfessorGAC]

14. Yeah, Condescension Is A Great Way To Create Alliances!

And i never mentioned anything about converting the dullards. If we "messaged" better it would have been a landslide, and you know it.

Now i'm done. I'm on your side remember. Insults are no way to reinforce like mindedness.

[Cary]

16. No one insulted you

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That's ridiculous.

What you're doing is deflecting by changing the subject to some alleged defect about me. The subject here is the strategy of negativity. Obviously, since you resorted to deflection, you have no defense for that strategy.

Thanks for confirming my theory.

VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

[ehrnst]

19. Well, telling people they're corrupt or insulting if they don't walk lockstep with you

certainly doesn't create alliances, even if some people equate that sort of authoritarian thinking with "purity in thought."

Yeah, landslide. Plausible if you forget about voter suppression, interference by Russia, the historic improbability of keeping the White House for more than two consecutive terms, fake news that was eagerly lapped up by people who wanted to be "proven right" than to actually win the election, and so called "progressives" who had agendas that were served by Democrats failing.

I'd say winning more votes than anyone but Obama under those circumstances was pretty damn good.

[ProfessorGAC]

20. No Argument From Me

And i never used the word corrupt. So, not sure where you're getting that.

[ehrnst]

21. You didn't. You used insulting.

I was pointing out that many here seem to think that calling those who don't agree with them "corrupt" and voting for those candidates does not create alliances.

I think that many here believe that alliances are forged with "corruption."

[ProfessorGAC]

24. My Bad!

Misread your post. I get you now. Thanks. Makes good sense.

[Mendocino]

8. RBAUITM

Robber Baron and Useful Idiot Tax Massacre

[ucrdem]

10. Rec for the perfect sig!

[Wounded Bear]

11. Trump Tax works for me...

Corker is leaving. Trump has yet to be driven out.

[OregonBlue]

15. GOP Tax Scam

[MrScorpio]

18. You beat me to it.

Link to tweet

https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeverEverTrustaRepublican?src=hash

[meow2u3]

17. Trump Tax Theft

[0rganism]

22. i favor "taxscam" myself

it's already been popularized, and it's easy to remember
"taxcon" might also work

[Ilsa]

23. GOP Spending Scam

Spending future tax revenues on gifts for billionaires and corps.

[ecstatic]

25. #TaxScamBill is pretty popular on Twitter, even with rethugs

who've had it with dump and his lies.

[Historic NY]

26. It was a real Corker of a tax bill.

[bdamomma]

27. It was a heist

done to the American people period.

[Squinch]

28. It should be called the Trump/Republican Stick Up Job.