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underpants

(182,868 posts)
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:56 AM Dec 2017

If these kids can't make it work..... (Koch heir wants ring back)




Wyatt Koch — the son of billionaire Bill Koch — is suing his ex-fiancée to get back an 8.24-carat ring after she broke off their engagement, according to court documents. Wyatt’s lawyers claim that he purchased the pricey Oscar Heyman cushion cut diamond with two tapered baguette diamonds for $180,000 in March for a Tallahassee lassie named Ivie Gabrielle Slocumb.

But come May — after she allegedly “broke off” the engagement — Slocumb kept the rock. Wyatt’s lawyers say the ring’s now worth $250,000, and Wyatt also wants $15,000 in damages.

According to court documents filed in Florida circuit court, Wyatt — known in Palm Beach as the flame-haired, flamboyantly attired CEO of his own Palm Beach fashion line, Wyatt Ingraham — has “demanded the return of the ring .?.?. on multiple occasions” and says that the would-be bride “received the ring as a conditional gift. She refuses to return it despite proper demand and the condition not being fulfilled.”

A receipt filed with the court reflects that he also splashed out on a $7,750 “platinum diamond pendant” with 56 round diamonds, that’s not part of the suit.

https://pagesix.com/2017/12/19/koch-heir-sues-ex-fiance-to-get-giant-ring-back/?_ga=2.152614585.103584119.1513777678-1073673954.1513777678
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If these kids can't make it work..... (Koch heir wants ring back) (Original Post) underpants Dec 2017 OP
Ambivalent On This ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #1
That sucks Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #2
Bearing in mind you know nothing about her, their relationship, or the reason for breaking up brooklynite Dec 2017 #7
Right, so as a baseline one has to think it sucks in general Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #12
You could also post your reply to probably half the other judgmental posts in this thread Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #14
Bearing in mind that rarely stops your own consistent speculations. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #20
I gave mine back even though he was wanting us to be non-monogamous. moriah Dec 2017 #17
That's where I've been on it as well. Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #18
Yes, but you were probably engaged for love, not money TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #21
I agree. I think it is accepted that an engagement ring is a conditional gift. Tipperary Dec 2017 #22
Awwww. That cherubic little face looks just like Daddy's. Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #3
Is this a first?? Dale Neiburg Dec 2017 #4
+1.....finally the tiniest bit of equal treatment 😉 MLAA Dec 2017 #19
"Flamboyantly attired"... klook Dec 2017 #5
A conditional gift? brooklynite Dec 2017 #6
I think it depends upon the state dsc Dec 2017 #10
I'm sure conservatives don't believe in burdensome Governmental regulations like this... brooklynite Dec 2017 #16
Its Florida, he will get it back. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #15
Ewwwww snowybirdie Dec 2017 #8
The look on her face says WhiteTara Dec 2017 #9
That's why her expression is similar to jeffreyi Dec 2017 #11
Hmm, up until the mid 1900s, women commonly sued for broken engagements Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #13

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
1. Ambivalent On This
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:58 AM
Dec 2017

That's a lot of money for her to keep the rock. However, the $15k in damages is ridiculous!

On a second note, Wyatt, learn how to tie a tie.

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)
2. That sucks
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:59 AM
Dec 2017

Regardless of the lineage, keeping a ring after breaking off an engagement says far more about her than it does him. It's just poor taste at the least.

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)
12. Right, so as a baseline one has to think it sucks in general
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:36 AM
Dec 2017

I'd say that about anyone that had a story like that posted about them. The common thing is that when you break off an engagement, you return the ring. It's that simple.

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)
14. You could also post your reply to probably half the other judgmental posts in this thread
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:45 AM
Dec 2017

Any reason you haven't?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Bearing in mind that rarely stops your own consistent speculations.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 12:57 PM
Dec 2017

Bearing in mind that rarely stops your own consistent speculations.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
17. I gave mine back even though he was wanting us to be non-monogamous.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:53 AM
Dec 2017

And even though he hadn't cheated yet. Many said since he was changing the "contract", not me, I was entitled to keep it. But I didn't want the reminder around and figured he could use the money.

And just felt it made the break more final.

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)
18. That's where I've been on it as well.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:55 AM
Dec 2017

I didn't want to keep that reminder and I certainly didn't want to profit from it by selling it afterward. There was a better sense of finality by returning it and making a break from that relationship in a physical way.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,211 posts)
21. Yes, but you were probably engaged for love, not money
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 01:06 PM
Dec 2017

She wouldn't have given his lard ass the time of day if he wasn't due to inherit billions. So I'm sure she feels justified in keeping the ring as payment for services rendered. BTW, here is a pic of him modeling one of his ugly ass shirts.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
22. I agree. I think it is accepted that an engagement ring is a conditional gift.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 01:16 PM
Dec 2017

It does say something about her.

Dale Neiburg

(698 posts)
4. Is this a first??
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:11 AM
Dec 2017

"Flame-haired!" "Flamboyantly attired!" I had to go back and re-read that to be sure that it really was a man who was being defined by appearance and clothing.

brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
6. A conditional gift?
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:24 AM
Dec 2017

Sorry dummy; if you didn't get her to sign a pre-nup that covers this, the gift came with no strings.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
10. I think it depends upon the state
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:30 AM
Dec 2017

In some, if she breaks the engagement the ring is returned, if he breaks it, it isn't. In others, she keeps regardless. I am not sure if there are any where it is returned regardless.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
15. Its Florida, he will get it back.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

It’s a conditional gift there. Donee calls it off or is unfaithful, donor gets the ring back.

Unless he broke it off or was unfaithful. Somehow I can’t see that being the case.

snowybirdie

(5,233 posts)
8. Ewwwww
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
Dec 2017

Can't blame her for breaking it off. Notice the body language in this picture. She doesn't look very enamored, does she?

WhiteTara

(29,721 posts)
9. The look on her face says
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:28 AM
Dec 2017

eww...what am I doing with him? Don't judge me, I thought it would be easy to marry a rich asshole.

jeffreyi

(1,943 posts)
11. That's why her expression is similar to
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:35 AM
Dec 2017

The cat who ate the canary. Let it go. You just got a tax cut that will pay for a dozen rings like that, at least. Hey, the ring trickled down already! Tax scam bill is redeemed!

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
13. Hmm, up until the mid 1900s, women commonly sued for broken engagements
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:38 AM
Dec 2017

Breach of contract or something like that. The engagement ring was a symbol of that promise and was sometimes kept by the bride-to-be as compensation. I promise to marry you, let's have sex..a woman losing her virginity back then was seriously a loss.

Now men are suing for a broken engagement? He wants compensation for what? His virginity? She should get a reward for that.

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