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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:38 AM Original message |
Is Ghaddafi lying about his son and grandchildren being killed by NATO strikes? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Well, they are blaming this on President Obama and |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I'd be interested in seeing where he was called a saint. nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I guess you haven't read the previous threads on this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. NATO would not be bombing Tripoli without Obama. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. This is a civil war going on and war sucks. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. It's not only a civil war if NATO has taken sides, is it? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Civil wars like ducks can't be disputed. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Yes, the State Department must be very proud of this destabilization |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Oh I guess it's just a bunch of crazy people trying |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Because as we know, the State Department has never set anyone up |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
78. Right on. nt. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Yes, I've read them. Not once was he called a saint, or a poor, helpless |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
73. find one post saying that, honey. |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Daily Beast reporting same |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Good source and far more detailed than mine. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. None of the stories say that the children killed were the son's children. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. That pesky defection story is from PressTV. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I'm not fine with killing children however these stories |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. We have no business bombing Tripoli. And Gaddifi didn't drop those bombs. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Oh my God. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Not a very elegant argument. n/t |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And they should back off so Gaddafi can do it elsewhere in the country? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Bringing more harm to a conflict is not harm reduction. n/t |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. OK, we stop this, and then what? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. How do you know what Gaddafi wants? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. You claim to care about the people of Libya, but you would let them continue to live under Gaddafi.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. You don't know what "the people of Libya" have decided, do you? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. The people rebelling made the decision. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. What happened to "the people of Libya"? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. No, you're not in love with Gaddafi, you're just willing to make excuses for him. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Opposing murder is not making excuses for Gaddafi. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Why were the kids there in the first place? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. because they live there? why were *we* & our *bombs* there is more to the point. |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. I suspect he might be. I'll wait and see. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. That's all I want anybody to do before playing into |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
82. yeah, no innocents ever die from our (tm) freedom bombs. it's all |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
13. NATO certainly Obliterated his residential home where his children stayed! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Gaddafi is a Libyan David Koresh. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
75. What ....... is NATO too stupid to realize bombing a building known |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. So we have proof a building was killed. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
74. Nobody is painting him as a poor, misunderstood dictator. Not one |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
20. Human Rights Watch, February: |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. He's trying to portray himself as the victim. He's done |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. What bullshit. NOBODY is painting him a victim. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. He can end it today, by stepping down from power. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Precisely. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Except there is no proof that kids were killed. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. He might have... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Maybe, but other dictators have protected their |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Or has some quaint notion that sovereignty means something |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. No, the blood is on those who killed them even thinking there 'might' be |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. If you had kids or grandchildren and a war was on... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Do you know that his family has been allowed out of their residence? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. A chance to end this and save many thousands of lives of many many more people v. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Those people have a right to fight for their own indepedence, just like |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yeah, look at all the bleeding hearts that don't buy this old, tired bs |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. It's absolutely despicable to put words in other peoples' mouths. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Whose mouth? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. No matter what he is, he has human rights. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. But the people who he murders don't? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Yes, they all had human rights, too. What a concept. n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. You seem surprised! n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Surprised? No. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. I don't approve of assassinating anyone including |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. If a world body, such as the UN, concluded that a dictator, like Gaddaffi |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. No, you don't reap what you sow. Ask Iraq. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
85. NATO also targeted him on Saturday when they shot up |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Therefore, it's immaterial whether or not US drones killed his grandchildren. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. No, it's not "immaterial" |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Shall we exchange blue horror links? Will that allow you to justify dead children on that side? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Shall we not |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Neither. Nor will I try to justify either with blue links. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. "Nor will I try to justify either with blue links." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Seriously. n/t |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
56. Are NATO leaders LYING when they deny targetting Gaddafi family?? That's an |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Thank you. n/t |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Don't anger the war club. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Is Gaddafi lying? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
70. They were flying in a no fly zone |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Bingo n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #56 |
77. Good question. See if you can come up with |
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dems_rightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
63. The story's pretty unlikely |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. All I want is that people wait until the truth comes out |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
80. Ghaddafi camp now showing a shrouded body that |
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