|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » General Discussion |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:21 AM Original message |
911 call details how toddler fatally shot mom |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. that explains her husbands prints on the gun, huh? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. "men's rights guys" - what does that mean? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
105. oh there;s a s table of them here who show up anytime there's a spousal murder |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. well |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
131. Men are apparently so evil and violent |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #131 |
142. Missing the point ...... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #142 |
155. No, the toddler didn't do it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #155 |
164. it was stated as an opinion- you really do not comprehend half of what is written here, you know? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Here I'll repost what you wrote because you seem to have forgotten: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #166 |
180. yep,the husband said he was grabbing the gun, and most people here think it;s BS |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #180 |
182. Most people here do no think it's bs |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
146. ha ha, NO. The point is his story is a fucking joke that no one would try to pass off |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #146 |
156. And you've convicted him based on . .. .? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #156 |
162. WHERE did I say it was because he is a man? NOWHERE. you need to actaully read what you are |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. Do you deny then that on your first post |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #167 |
172. my first post warned that because I didn't belive this BS story- someone would come along an accuse |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Here, I'll change directions here since you aren't getting it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. if your little story wasn;t as idiotic as the husbands, you might have a point. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #176 |
181. Right right |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #181 |
200. no, he;s an idiot because he said he couldn't get a gun away from a toddler |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Update: Tot who may have shot mom removed from dad's care |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Yes clearly the opposite of due process |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
88. And you refuse to pass judgement out of obstinancy |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Let that sink in for a moment |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. You are being obstinate...the most charitable thing I can do is take the father at his own words |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
128. Look at the post I was responding to: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. I looked at it right after it was posted |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #136 |
158. First off I said nothing |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
96. Do you mean 'misandry?' |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
129. Yeah |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
104. A) I am having an opinion based on the BS story (wrestled w/ toddler)am not able to CONVICT anyone. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
130. LOL |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
147. i accused the father because his story is impossible to believe unless you;re an idiot! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #147 |
157. Ha |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #157 |
160. um, no I said his story was BS., and I couldn;t wait for someone like you to show up and pretend |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #160 |
165. You assumed his story was BS based on gender |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #165 |
173. much of what you wrote makes no sense at all to me. you are a very confused individual. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. A two year old would have great difficulty hanging on to a 9mm pistol. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. yeah, the man's "official" story could fertilize the lawn... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
80. Yep, a tricked out trigger is the only explanation for a 2 year old being able to fire... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. And that is the question that will haunt that child his entire life. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
152. When daddy explains what happened to his last wife, his date will make a quick exit. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #80 |
97. Cocked and locked would be a single-action trigger pull - very light. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #97 |
153. Yes - and if so every gun safety rule in the book was broken. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
83. It's happened before |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sammytko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
99. I had a hard time firing a 9mm with my little hands and i'm an adult! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. This tragedy could have been avoided. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Touche' |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. I hope you realize that nobody every makes such a statement in seriousness |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #85 |
110. See post 109. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
109. Actually, I agree with you. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
octothorpe (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. Sounds like something I said when I was about 5... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. At the very least, negligent homicide. But I'm thinking 1st degree murder. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I say it's the baby and I say try him as an adult and throw the book at the little |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Only if (s)he is a Republican. If so, I'm in total agreement. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. ya. lets throw the baby into foster and take away his remaining parent.... nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. if the guy murdered his wife and tried to pin it on his baby, yeah, let's do that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. yup. if that is the case, prison. i hear ya. didnt know this was in question prior to posting.nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. She was not his wife. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. ya. obviously i did not read the whole story. sounding worse and worse. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
145. What!!! I didn't marry my baby's father until she was 15 years old. Lack of paper does not mean |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #145 |
154. wow. is that what i said? i still have not read the story. lack of interest. if man is guilty |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. I think so too. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
9. That kid needs to get a good lawyer, pronto. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. Is the little boy named Stewie? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JesterCS (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. so wrong, but so appropriate n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. i am so sorry for everyone. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
17. AND - the Father is a CCW-holder |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. +1 Took the words right outa my mouth |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
81. It's an anomaly |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
95. +1. funny, they've ususally descended en masse in these threads by now. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
18. I'm waiting to see what gun residue and ballistics and other forensic tests reveal. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. I'll take "on purpose" for $100, Alex. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. It is the father who is being tested. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. "A momentary lapse in attention" ?! As if all of us just leave loaded 9mm |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Don't you know-you have to watch those young'uns closely as |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
23. Guns don't kill people... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. vans dont kill people, those that drive it into a river do.... nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. at least vans have other purposes |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. as do guns. hey... i hate guns and no desire to hold one let alone fire one. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. seems to me their purpose is either related to killing or practicing to kill |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You mean, you don't drive your gun to work? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I frequently use it as a hammer . . . .quite effectively |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. And don't forget its function as a toy for little ones. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. drat - forgot that one |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. not true. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. How is that not true? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. bow and arrows SHOOT. i betcha there are lots and lots of people that have used them |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Yes, the epedimic of bows and arrows violence |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. moving the goal post? then lets go back to, .... vans dont kill people.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I never said it was only for killing. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. ok. and so do bows and arrows. doesnt mean they are for killing. that was the challenge i started |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. But that is their primary purpose, Seabeyond. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. ok. and still, as much as personally do not like them |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Nothign wrong with that, Sea |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. well, now, this is a different argument and living in the panhandle of texas |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
59. You Would Have A Point If................. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #59 |
76. I have never heard of a gun firing with no human interaction at all |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Guns don't kill people, cars don't kill people, swimming pools don't kill people, etc |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yes, but one of these things is not like the others. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Purpose doesn't really matter |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Of course they do. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Because if your goal is to prevent death |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. My goal is anti gun industry. Always has been. I'm not actually ant-gun, believe it or not. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
132. So the entire industry |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
98. Purposes do matter (ever read a negligence suit en toto?) |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
133. Ah look at that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
168. Wow a new rethug talking point! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. even worse with single-purpose devices in the hands of idiots |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. here is the single purpose thing. kinda like bows and arrow with their single purpose |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. what recognized use is not related to killing (or maiming) or practicing to kill (and maim) |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. a person can do target practice without any desire to kill or practice to kill |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. target practice - isn't that to improve one's aim? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. sure. and it is fun. especially when i kick ass and i dont do it regularly.... does a |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
183. Didn' you just say upthread that you didn't like guns? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #183 |
184. pellet and bbguns. i have fired those two. i have never fired a gun with bullets... nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #184 |
187. Oh okay.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
135. I was a Federal employee once upon a time that was authorized |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. How so? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #38 |
64. I've Never Heard Of A Pool "Accidentally" Drowning An Innocent Sunbather |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. that gun "accidently" goes off when dropped or handled. not when sittin by itself not touched. as |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Really? You've heard of a gun that loaded itself, cocked itself and then fired itself with no human |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
106. I heard that 12 people were killed by an automatic swimming pool in Des Moines. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
144. I don't think a pool has ever been used in anger. I could be wrong. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #144 |
159. I don't think the anger of the person responsible has ever made a death more or less permanent |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
42. I don't know the laws out there... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. And the mom was shot in the back. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #45 |
79. I think of all the "coincidences" there and... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
50. another "law abiding" "responsible" concealed weapon permit holder |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Clearly not. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. But..but..but... we are told all the time that you get a halo with yer Holy CCW Permit |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Really? Ok, I will believe that if you can provide quotes to back it up |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. a standard response in the Gungeon even by the folks that post this stuff - yawn |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Ok, so you have a databased of unaltered text at your disposal |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. This comes up all the time in the Gungeon - multiple posts & thread beatifying CCW holders |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Again: if it comes up all the time |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. deny deny deny |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. So that would be no quotes then? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
62. How awful. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
84. There are clueless people everywhere. Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. as much as i stand up for rights to own gun, no way i would allow my child to get info from school |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. So, what else don't you trust the schools to teach |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. no, i do not know they will come in contact in other peoples homes, yet... my husband |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
121. I see nothing wrong with learning about religion |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. you are talking to a mama that is open and enthusiastic in ALL subjects. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. So you are objecting to other people parenting your |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. i think there are some things that the parent gets to decide. guns being one of them |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #127 |
137. Well, I wouldn't want to parent your children but |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. cleita. there is a HUGE difference between a parental role and a teachers role |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #140 |
171. So interesting... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #101 |
185. I don't know anything about guns. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. i am sure you know someone who does no something about guns, that you trust. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Sure, I know people that own guns and may have some knowlege |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:34 AM Response to Reply #190 |
191. i know you have no kids, and was pretty sure where you were coming from. BUT there are alternatives |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Fair enough. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. You support keeping kids ignorant about guns. Are you also opposed to teaching them how to swim? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. yes. i do. in a lifetime i have never had the need to know about guns |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
117. Your children are fortunate to have a parent who was willing and able to educate them |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. i almost always embrace an opt out program. i see little downside to that. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #102 |
177. If you don't know anything about them... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #177 |
186. for real? i dont like holding something with a capability that can kill |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #186 |
193. I suppose you don't cook or drive either, correct? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #193 |
198. all the men in my life, for a lifetime are gun advocates. husband nra. none of them would take |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #198 |
201. I merely point out the illogic. If that is childish, I must be about... 3. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #201 |
204. you and i dont agree with the basis of the argument. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
178. And yet you trust them with your child's life every day.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #178 |
189. i dont agree with you, but... so? nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #189 |
195. Then you are seriously lacking in observation and imagination. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #195 |
199. no. i simply disagree with you. then you have the condscending arrogance to challenge my parenting |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #199 |
202. "i dont like holding something with a capability that can kill" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
169. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. Kindly point out where I have ever advocated the teaching of creationism in public schools |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. guns don't kill people |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
125. People who are irresopnsible with their guns kill people. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
100. Sure. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
103. How terribly sad. I can't imagine growing up knowing I killed my mother. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
107. How is a 2 year old's hand |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Yawn...yet another 'rush to print' article by some nimrod... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Very_Boring_Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
111. Per usual the fascist gun zealots are here trying to defend this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Guess you've never had a bear break into your house. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Wow. I would faint or pray it's a dream |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. It actually wasn't me that this happened to -- a neighbor. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. In the past, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
113. Does a 2 year old have the hand strength to pull a trigger? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Single action? Absolutely. Double action? Depends. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. My 1911 has a grip safety too. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. Not sure when the beavertails appeared, but I don't think all 1911-styles have them. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. Per ABC: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #134 |
148. the Dad lied. No way could a tod fight off Dad and shoot the Mom. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #118 |
179. you know a lot about guns for a DUer |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:34 AM Response to Reply #179 |
192. Every time it's polled more than half of DUers own or enjoy firearms. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #179 |
203. And...? n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
138. That's said the baby is going to grow up thinking he killed his mom |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. First off, the father(in the first link)made two claims: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
141. Tests will be done with the two year old to determine whether it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
143. So the child picked up the gun AND held it up high enough to shoot into an adult's back? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. I thought maybe Daddys last name was Eastwood n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #143 |
151. On the 911 call (link below) he says she was shot in the back (of/and?) the arm. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #151 |
163. and it;s the ONLY story that explains why Dad;s prints are all over the gun. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
150. I just listened to the 911 call--he says the child picked up the gun. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
161. That poor guy |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
174. Not buying it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
196. How horrible |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
197. Somehow...I smell bullshit... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Sat May 04th 2024, 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » General Discussion |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC