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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:52 PM Original message |
Poll question: Did Manning give wikileaks restricted material, and is this illegal? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. If Manning did what he is charged with, he broke the law |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Manning did what Ellsburg 40 years before him did. Nixon's |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. "Being in jail" is not the same thing as being tortured. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Ok, right, he hasn't been tortured. Just forced to stand naked, kept |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. My opinion is based on facts. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. No, Manning did something quite different |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. You're stretching ingenuity to its limits. Both Ellsburg and Manning |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yeah, that horrible torture of only having one pillow, and only one hot shower a day! nt |
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EmmettKelly (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. My understanding is that Manning is charged with accessing AND |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Assuming Manning is the leaker, what he did was restricted by US law, BUT that law is superseded |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Those words don't mean what you think they mean... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Uh, no. You fail con law 101 forever. |
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Phlem (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Just keep moving on folks |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I think your post is only describing itself. nt |
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Phlem (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. ooh |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Come on. You know your post contains no real information. |
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Phlem (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. right |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I don't know how you type, but I keep my mouth closed. nt |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. Do you have a link to the trial transcripts so we can decide? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I like gallows humor. nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. There's always his own admission |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. That's from the trial? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It will be soon |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. How soon? Has a trial date been set? nt |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Ask mannings lawyer, he is the one who requested the delay N/T |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. He may have requested a delay at some point (link please - I do believe that one |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Coombs did file for speedy trial in January |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. That is one fucking long review process, it's been 8 months. |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Hence the speedy trial request in January N/T |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Definitely not the worst evidence I have seen. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It won't be difficult to prove this was him. |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I read |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. Amazing how the Manning cheerleaders can't admit he did something wrong. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I am amazed more people don't think the first season of Heroes is better than the other seasons. nt |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. I admit that, allegedly, he committed and illegal act. I also think it was, allegedly, a just |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. I am amazed that there are people on the left who can't admit that |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I am amazed there are some people who still don't understand he wasn't "reporting war crimes." |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I am amazed that you still are not aware of the war crimes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. So has the accused |
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micraphone (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. So whistleblowers |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I didn't realize he filed a complaint |
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micraphone (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Irrelevant |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Not Irrelevant. |
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micraphone (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Sympathy for his plight? |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What about the classified information he released that was not |
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micraphone (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Jeez I give up |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I agree perception is more important than reality in this situation. |
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mountainlion55 (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
38. terrible poll |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:33 AM Response to Reply #38 |
51. How does the poll justify anything? It asks two simple questions about you. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Can you justify your claim about the poll? nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
46. Other: DO AMERICANS DESERVE A REAL TRIAL OR DO WEB FORUMS COUNT NOW? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I really doubt the military court is going to use DU opinion as evidence. |
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