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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:31 AM
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The earth is keeps sending loud messages to change course. It is just a matter of time before the
Peninsula here in California gets hit with a sunami. I think we are too late and the planet will do whatever she can to heal herself.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:34 AM
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1. You're anthropomorphizing an earthquake? That makes as much sense as saying God
did it because not enough Japanese are Christians. :-(
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:32 AM
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56. the shape of our planet is determined by the ice caps
and what happens when we melt 10 million years worth of ice in 200 years?
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:06 AM
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77. With all due respect, that's silly. I know the natural urge is to find someone or something to
blame - but this really is just beyond our possible control or even minute contribution.

This is so much different than atmospheric science.



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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:09 AM
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79. show me data or you don't know what you're talking about
.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:11 AM
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:39 PM
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138. Like data is going to convince you
You are it, it's all one. Holy realized minds are not wrong; it's all one thing. Earth, air, you, me,, thought, all one thing.
One organism.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #138
175. The woo woo is strong with this one n/t
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:39 AM
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272. LOL!
Seriously.

I laughed out loud.

Funny.

BTW< I spent a month in Tallahassee last weekend. Got Poison Ivy too. First time in 30 years I've had a case this bad. Damn your panhandle!
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:06 PM
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182. Comedy GOLD. Like reading a lost "Cheech and Chong" script.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 06:09 PM by Maru Kitteh
eta: You are going for comedy here, right? :o
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:23 PM
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187. It's a very sad group out here on GD
Christ, I wonder what a republican group would be like.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:36 PM
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197. The fact that we're not all animistic dunderheads
who anthropomorphize the planet and subscribe to frankly religious theories about "everything all being tied together by like, thoughts or something, dude" doesn't make us sad. It just makes us smarter than the kids who ditched science class.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #187
202. Republicans are anti-science
They are probably more inclined to buy a superstitious answer to a logical & scientific one.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #187
235. +1
My, how things have changed.;-)
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #187
275. Ignore them.
Labeling your thoughts as "woo woo ideas" tells you everything you need to know about them.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #138
188. all is one... yet no one near me wants to enjoy my flatulence with me. bummer. eom
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:13 AM
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83. A little science experiment for you
Go fill a glass with ice and water. Then weigh it. Now let the ice melt. Go weigh it again.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:17 AM
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86. right..its the movement of weight, duh
ice melts and the weight that was there moves off to soemwhere elese. thats what causees the phenomena ty for explaning it
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:47 AM
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95. Since you were talking about the ice caps, you admit there is no difference in weight
The ice caps melting will not change the weight distribution on the Earth one bit. Glaciers melting is something else. If you want to be thought intelligent, be clear.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:45 AM
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263. 'Ice cap' is not synonomous with 'floating ice', and even the melting of floating ice
will alter sea level and thus produce a redistribution of mass. Not sure what was meant by the "200 years" in the post you originally replied to, but the melting and subsequent rebound since the last glacial period continues to reshape the surface and rearrange the mass of the planet...
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:33 PM
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163. So our planet changes shape during ice ages?
Cockadoodie.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:28 PM
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216. actually the shape of the earth is affected by the moon,
slightly - tends to bulge somewhat when the orbit of the moon is closer to the earth. Saw it on PBS. I have no idea whether massive amounts of melting ice would have an effect or not. Where's a geophysicist when we need one... :D
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:33 AM
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262. It does, in a way. The mass of ice presses the crust deeper into the mantle,
and it's still rebounding from the last glacial expansion. This slow rebound rearranges mass, and produces variations in the Earth's axis on an annual basis that are equal to what can be caused by a major quake...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:24 PM
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215. well, yes, but I don't think that is what caused these
plates to shift, eh?


Actually at the rate we are going we might melt quite a bit of ice in considerably less time.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:23 AM
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87. Personally, I think the Gods are mad at us 'cause we bombed the moon...nt
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:26 AM by SidDithers
Edit: and I can't tell you how heartening it is to see the very first reply in this thread critical of the nonsense in the OP.

:thumbsup:

Sid
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:31 PM
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128. Or blaming it on Godzilla
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:36 AM
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2. It must be because we bombed the moon, and she's pissed.
unred for blatant whackjobbery.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:10 AM
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31. The moon is a harsh mistress. Heinlein warned us, but did we listen? No!
We sowed the wind, and now we reap the whirlwind... :rofl:
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:32 AM
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66. TANSTAAFL...
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:17 PM
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298. Try saying that to a vulture!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:29 AM
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88. Damn...
I should read the thread before making a moon-bombing joke.

:hi:

Sid
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:17 PM
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124. First thing I thought of as well
Hilarious thread. :)
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:48 PM
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142. I remember when we bombed the moon. A planned, premeditated bombing. I warned you all...
that something would happen.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:38 AM
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3. there have been earthquakes for way before humans. Good grief. Embarrasing here
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:40 AM
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4. The earth works in geologic time
they happen

it is called plate tectonics.

It is not mother earth getting angry, it is plate tectonics going a little more active.

They do that. We have had higher periods (in geologic times) of activity, and periods of relative quiet...
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:08 AM
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29. That's interesting. I'm not aware of any theory that would suggest a cyclical
(or quasi-cyclical) pattern in global-scale plate tectonics. Where are you reading that?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:27 AM
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47. I did not say cyclical, I just said the activity level changes
for example the carboniferous saw immense volcanic activity.

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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:45 AM
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54. Yes, the individual events are essentially random over the relevant time scales. The process itself
does not become more or less active in any systematic way (except less active as the planet cools, but that's a whole 'nother time scale)...
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:49 AM
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55. "It is not mother earth getting angry, it is plate tectonics going a little more active."
Say what?!?!?!? I suppose the next thing you're gonna tell me is that thunder isn't gawd bowling??? :scared:

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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #4
96. If first works in Universe time. The clock and things effecting
earth are not just bound to this world.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:40 AM
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5. I knew someone would receive this message wrong. What is happening sucks,
but this will continue to happen. Every one on this planet will feel climate change at some point. I have been preparing for this because the California coast will eventually be hit.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:42 AM
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7. Did you miss the quake a year ago?
by the way, global weather change... supper storm... those are truly related.

I know what theory you are talking about, but so far we have not gotten a good correlation, even if it is possible.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:42 AM
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8. A couple weeks ago the Sacramento was hit by miny tornadoes.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:10 PM
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113. You have to watch out for those miny tornadoes - they're selfish!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:30 PM
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217. he!


:rofl: :hi: EP!
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:12 PM
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212. That actually isn't totally uncommon for the Sacramento.
They are very weak tornadoes, nothing like what happens in Oklahoma, but they are still tornadoes.

Here we just call it "Sacramento"
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:11 AM
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32. climate change?
and EARTHQUAKES?

Hmmmmm....
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:58 PM
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148. the only constant is change. This is true of the planet and of life...
sometimes change is good (for man) sometimes it's bad (for man).
The Earth doesn't care. Change is neither good nor bad for the Earth, it just is.
Even after the sun expands and destroys everysinglelivingthing on Earth, there will be change.
Best get used to it.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:34 PM
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164. Plate tectonics have fuck-all to do with climate change. nt
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:37 PM
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219. not quite true -plate tectonics do tend to influence climate
change over long periods of time.
it is wiki, but:


Plate tectonics
Over the course of millions of years, the motion of tectonic plates reconfigures global land and ocean areas and generates topography. This can affect both global and local patterns of climate and atmosphere-ocean circulation.<8>
The position of the continents determines the geometry of the oceans and therefore influences patterns of ocean circulation. The locations of the seas are important in controlling the transfer of heat and moisture across the globe, and therefore, in determining global climate. A recent example of tectonic control on ocean circulation is the formation of the Isthmus of Panama about 5 million years ago, which shut off direct mixing between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. This strongly affected the ocean dynamics of what is now the Gulf Stream and may have led to Northern Hemisphere ice cover.<9><10> During the Carboniferous period, about 300 to 360 million years ago, plate tectonics may have triggered large-scale storage of carbon and increased glaciation.<11> Geologic evidence points to a "megamonsoonal" circulation pattern during the time of the supercontinent Pangaea, and climate modeling suggests that the existence of the supercontinent was conducive to the establishment of monsoons.<12>
The size of continents is also important. Because of the stabilizing effect of the oceans on temperature, yearly temperature variations are generally lower in coastal areas than they are inland. A larger supercontinent will therefore have more area in which climate is strongly seasonal than will several smaller continents or islands.

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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:39 PM
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220. I meant the other way round,
but I obviously didn't state that well at all. Good catch. :hi:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #220
226. yeah I know- this discussion led me to look it up..
food for thought- :hi:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:41 AM
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6. utterly fucking ridiculous
and offensive.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:45 AM
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9. It is not a shot at Japan it is warning like the others we continue
receive and will receive more.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:52 AM
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12. no, it's not a warning. it's an earthquake. And to date there is little data
supporting any theory that global climate change has any impact on the frequency or severity of earthquakes. I'm sorry to tell you this but your anthropomorphizing is no more enlightened than that of fundies who claim natural disasters occur because god is pissed.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:01 AM
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20. nm
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:05 AM by joshcryer
I see where they mentioned climate change, it wasn't in the OP but another post

basically I think the OP is a spiritualist who blames any and all environmental damage and destruction on the planet waking up or some shit
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:21 AM
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40. nm
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:26 AM by Cetacea
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:39 PM
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166. It wasn't a warning.
It was an earthquake. We've always had them. We'll continue to have them. Having lived through Sylmar, Northridge, Loma Prieta, Landers, and a host of other California earthquakes I can assure you they are just shit that happens.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:29 PM
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190. ahhh...but how do you know all those earthquakes weren't warnings about something???
the Earth may be a very touchy individual.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #190
194. She's at the awkward stage.
The teenage years are the hardest.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:35 PM
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196. any little thing sets them off, don't you know. And who can figure it out...
for all I know we may get an earthquake next week because Charlie Sheen doesn't get his job back.
Does the Earth like Charlie Sheen?
Who knows!?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:37 PM
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198. Earthquake blood and tectonic DNA.
My shit shakes the whole planet, yo.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:45 PM
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203. LOL nice. eom
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:50 AM
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10. Indigenous cultures
refer to the Earth anthropomorphically. They speak as if there is a form of communication between life and the supporting structure.

While I don't think of the natural events as warnings to us, warnings are in order, nonetheless. That is, in respect to the planet's life supporting systems and our detrimental impact on them as a species along with uncaring profit-driven policies that do little to mitigate that impact.

So, I would prefer that we have more sensitivity to the vital and living nature of our environment as a whole than to continue on the path of acting and feeling so separate from what sustains us that we blindly criticize people who consider a more personal way of looking at the Gaia.

I don't think that the planet itself acts as a person would, nor do I think it needs to heal itself, but I do think that all life is interconnected and interdependent and that view is essential to our own continuation as well as that of all the other species and the ecosystem. We have strayed, with our thinking and internal isolation, from the pertinent facts about our relationship to what is essential to all life.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:53 AM
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13. Predatorial capitalism murdered sea life on the gulf of mexico's sea floor.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:08 AM
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30. and that's related to earthquakes just how exactly?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:43 PM
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167. It also brutally murdered young Bruce Wayne's parents
on a rainy Gotham night many years ago. Another warning? Who can say?

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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:22 PM
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299. How can a gulf have a sea floor? Eureka! That's why there was a quake! Wrong floor!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:00 AM
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74. Thank you. Well said. :) n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:18 PM
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102. Well done, sir. Perfect.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:03 PM
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153. Spouting Gaia Hypothesis nonsense with an avatar of FSM = priceless. n/t
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:36 PM
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285. Or, as I've seen said in a different way
"No one knows exactly how old the human race is, but everyone agrees it's old enough to know better."

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:51 AM
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11. the earthquake, you mean? The earthquake is a message from the earth?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:40 PM
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221. or the earth is a message from the earthquake...

:hi: Fishwax- how you liking the NCAA tourneys so far?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:58 PM
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233. ah, I like that idea
:)

"how you liking the NCAA tourneys so far? "

Alas, I haven't been able to watch nearly as much college basketball as I'd like this year -- I was happy (and a bit surprised) that the Sooners won a game in the conference tourney, but it's been another rather bad year in Oklahoma :(

Pitt seems to be doin' pretty well, though! :hi:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:09 PM
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242. well, we went out pretty well and our losses haven't been
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 10:10 PM by tigereye
by too much. :hi:

I had to turn off the Big East Championship the other day while I was writing. Too tense. :(


On edit, one really has to watch Notre Dame and Connecticut - they are on fire! :scared:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:56 AM
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14. How did the dinosaurs piss off mother earth? Seriously, HOW?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:44 PM
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108. The face of Evil....



Some things you just don't want to know...

:scared:

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:56 AM
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15. I loved the line in the Matrix that talks about humans being a virus
destroying as we move across the planet.

We are doing damage to the planet. Cause and effect. :hi:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:57 AM
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16. This is what I was saying.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:58 AM
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18. Yep. I heard you loud and clear
and I agree.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:45 PM
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224. yes, but that did not cause an earthquake
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:08 AM
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78. I've always said we act like dumb parasites.
Most parasites are smart enough not to kill their host. Not us. We KNOW we are fucking up the planet, yet we go full steam ahead sucking it dry and destroying it.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:24 PM
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135. Umm, yeah. That's a movie.
:shrug:
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:03 PM
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154. and without humans there would be no line in the Matrix that we could quote...
and compare humans to viruses.
What fun would that be?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:44 PM
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168. The favored theory of every stoned college sophomore.
"Dude, we're a virus and we're killing Mother Earth." :eyes:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:50 PM
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228. well, we could take care of the air and environment a bit
better, but I suspect this massive rock we live on will be here until the sun goes nova at some point...
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:57 AM
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17. This is dumb. Seismic activity has nothing to do with human activity.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:00 AM
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19. No one thinks drilling multiple miles into the earth could
cause plates to shift, because I do.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:02 AM
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22. No. Nothing humans do would cause tectonic plates to move at all.
I don't think you understand geophysics.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:12 AM
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33. that's ridiculous. nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:18 AM
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38. That's like thinking that getting a shot with a hypodermic needle will cause your head to fall off.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:53 PM
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250. Thank you.
You actually made me laugh out loud.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #38
254. Ok now you've done it
that is why antivaxers don't want those pesky shots!

Sorry, could not resist.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:51 AM
Response to Reply #38
273. Holy shit!
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 02:51 AM by A HERETIC I AM
That is too funny.

Reminds me of "Dumb and Dumber"

The Parakeet died cause its head fell off!
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:46 PM
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141. And how about building heavy buildings on the coast? do you know how that unbalances a continent???
try it. take a plate (and the earth is made out of tectonic plates) and put a weight on the edge.
See how it tips? How can that NOT cause earthquakes?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #19
170. Does driving a nail into your wall to hang a family portrait
make your house fall down?

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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:07 PM
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241.  those plates are really, really massive.

Here is another wiki link that explains where the tectonic plates lie on the surface of the earth's mantle or just above it- I think they are way too deep for most drilling although I could be wrong.

:hi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crust_(geology)
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:02 AM
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23. man, it's time to broaden your consciousness
all thought affects all things.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:03 AM
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24. Put the bong away.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #24
100. You can twitter it away
you'll see how it's all connected someday
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:28 AM
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64. So what exactly have the Haitians done to so greatly piss off the overmind?
I mean, really. I want to hear the direct causal connection.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #64
99. there is no direct causal connection
that's old Pagan thinking
it's all one collective
one big mind
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #99
122. And the one big mind has a tired old tendency to think natural disasters are punishment
they're not. They're natural disasters.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:37 PM
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136. They are NOT punishment
You are right. They are not NATURAL disasters either, they are blown up representations of all the hate and stress inside each of us collectively. They are not Old Testament punishment either. There is a direct link between every thought we think and what happens apparently "outside" of us. Which is an illusion. My 2 cents.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #136
156. "There is a direct link between every thought we think and what happens apparently "outside" of us."
Oh really? What is that link? Enlighten us.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #136
222. Wow. So if it weren't for "hate and stress inside each of us", the Earth's plates wouldn't move?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:43 PM by Warren DeMontague
Sorry, man, that's just plain goofy. Earthquakes ARE natural disasters, I don't care what terrible misrepresentation of quantum physics you may have read, or what you heard on Oprah. We live in a universe that includes large amounts of natural phenomena, some of it much bigger than we are- and we are very small.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:48 PM
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227. DU snark did it.
I blame the Pseudoscience and Skepticism forum. Relevant authorities have been notified. I ask that you not leave the state until you've been interviewed.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:50 PM
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229. So how did earthquakes happen before we were here?
Stressed-out paramecia? Really hateful blue-green algae? :shrug:
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:27 AM
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260. lol, I'm sorry that was really funny to me and I have no bong here.
Lou
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #136
251. Can I have some of
whatever it is you are smoking?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #23
171. I just tried to think myself up a fresh vegan cheesecake.
That shit didn't work.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:01 AM
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21. You are right on track
imho
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:05 AM
Response to Reply #21
25. I believe drilling for oil thousands of miles below surface causes major damage and
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:29 AM by ej510
is the reason for these tsunami's. You got me I made a dumb comment.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:06 AM
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26. and of course you have the evidence to back that up
science is not about believing or silly wishful thinking.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:07 AM
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28. The deepest wells go to about 30000 feet.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:07 AM by Paradoxical
They barely scratch the crust of the Earth. Nothing humans do has any effect on tectonic plate movement.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:04 PM
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181. Humans can't effect tectonic plates?? oh really??? I saw a movie once...
where they deep drilled and exploded an atomic bomb down deep.
And the Earth broke in half.
You're trying to tell me this can't happen?

Maybe you should do a little research about where people get these ideas.
truth in fiction. Perhaps there is.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:25 AM
Original message
Do you trust scientific data from the gulf?
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:56 PM
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176. Check out Kermit, Texas' sink holes
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 06:00 PM by texastoast
I don't think they are very silly. They happened after all the oil got pumped out of that field. It was in a big pool. Took several decades for them to happen after most of the drilling stopped.



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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:46 AM
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264. So?
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 01:48 AM by Maru Kitteh
What in the world does that have to do with an earthquake and resulting tsunami, and please, be specific.

I think you may be the kid who believed the neighbor boy who told you that you really could dig a hole to China.

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:23 AM
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278. I'm having a good time
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 10:29 AM by texastoast
Watching the "new DU" so adamantly profess to have everything figured out completely. I just thought I would post a picture of a reality that happened after all the oil was taken out of an area (and there are many of these in this location) which caused crustal instability.

Not that I support 100% the OP's premise, especially in view of his/her understanding of drilling practices. However, I don't know the long-term effects of removing all the oil from the planet, which we are trying to do, and neither does any other poster on this thread.

And, on edit, the "new DU" I'm talking about is the tone of your reply to my post. This has become a snotty, sarcastic, rude place. I generally save that kind of fun for my troll posts on other boards. Social skills that get things done in harmony are heading right down the drill pipe here.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:06 AM
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27. Drilling does not go more then 10 miles
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:38 AM by Paradoxical
They barely scratch the crust of the Earth.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:13 AM
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34. I'd probably stop posting if I were you...
this is embarrassing
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:17 AM
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36. Actually there are reports which back up my theory.
The oil was there for a reason.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:17 AM
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37. post the evidence. just do it.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:19 AM
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39. I don't think you have any concept of geologic scale.
The oil fields you are talking about are extremely small in area when compared to the size of tectonic plates.

Drilling can result in local seismic activity. But earthquakes of international scale and the subsequent tsunamis have literally ZERO to do with human activity.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:25 AM
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45. I'm not saying one time deal. I am ssying the constant drilling is
causing these earthquakes. Scientists are still learning about fault lines. I wouldn't be shocked if scientists began to parrot me in the future.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:27 AM
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48. So you are in the business of predicting scientific breakthroughs?
:tinfoilhat:
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:22 AM
Response to Reply #45
60. As something funny to teach their pet bird maybe nt
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:07 AM
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70. I would be hugely shocked. N/T
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:22 AM
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42. and god put fossils in the ground to fool us into thinking whateverthefuck you want
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:52 AM
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97. "the oil was there for a reason"?

Who's reason? Are you saying some creator planned on that oil to be there in order to stop earthquakes? :rofl:

This whole thread is a hoot.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #97
177. To lubricate the tectonic plates. DUH. The sliding of plates is not as smooth as it used to be...
hence we get nasty earthquakes.
If we put some of the oil back in just the right places. you know...like you oil squeeky things with an oil can...
I bet we can stop a lot of these problems.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:59 AM
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266. I think we should inject the earth with teflon. Think of the fun - we could use windmills to slip
across the glove and take the whole continent on vacation! We could get together with other continents and have a "return to Pangaea" day!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:54 PM
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174. "A reason"?
:wtf: Things don't have "reasons" to be, they just are. Some biological material got trapped under ideal conditions and petroleum deposits resulted. There's no "reason" involved.

This place fucking embarrasses me some days.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:21 AM
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41. At LEAST spell tsunami right. Who drills tens of thousands miles below the surface of the earth?
Do you have any clue how asinine that statement is?
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:23 AM
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43. The earth is only roughly 8000 miles wide.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:27 AM
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46. Well, there you go! What HAPPENED to those other tens of thousands miles???
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:28 AM
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50. Apparently we've drilled through the Earth, into space.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:37 PM
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246. ROFL!


best thread today!
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:29 AM
Response to Reply #41
51. Astronauts do
:rofl:

Although to be charitable, perhaps the poster meant 10s of 1000s of miles of vertical/horizontal/angled shafts (adding all the drilling together) - which could be reasonable, I'm really not sure...
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:33 PM
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300. Folks who don't mind drilling through the whole planet to get that pesky moon, that's who!
Sort of sneak up on the moon which is probably on guard for its next comeuppance bombing.

The drill should sneak up on the man in the moon and get him right in the eye. Force him to eat all those unwanted moon pies.

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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:18 AM
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58. Thousands of miles?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 05:20 AM by Confusious
Dude the radius ( From the center to the surface ) of the earth is 6,000km ( That's less then 6,000 miles )

I'm not up on my drilling, but I think the deepest we can go is 10 miles.

Really, time to put down the bong and get an education.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:20 AM
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59. Thousands of miles? Yeah, you did indeed make a dumb comment. (nt)
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #25
91. Thousands of miles below the surface?...
The deepest mankind has ever drilled is a bit more than 12km, or about 7.5 miles.

That's barely a pinprick on the surface of the Earth.

Sid
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:45 AM
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93. Thousands of miles? Really? When did we start doing that?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #25
114. You would be right - if we drilled for oil at the earth's core
Since we can't, this is ridiculous.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #25
120. I agree they cause damage
But I don't think they are the source of this quake.
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:16 AM
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35. wow
The internet is displeased with your idiocy, I wouldn't be surprised if something weird happens sometime, remember the internet warned yooouuuuu...
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #35
44. No wonder why we can't win elections.
We are far too busy insulting one another (since we are so brilliant)
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:23 AM
Response to Reply #44
61. Sorry, ignorance must be challenged
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 06:14 AM by Confusious
whether it comes from the left or the right.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:14 AM
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84. Yes, of course. In a civil way.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #44
94. Dumb shit needs to be refuted...
perhaps if less time was spent defending it, it wouldn't happen so often.

Sid
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #44
127. That's almost as spurious an assertion as the one in the OP.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:20 PM by Warren DeMontague
Yes, we "lose elections" because we don't smile and nod at every whack-a-doo anti-science woo woo assertion that comes down the pike.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #44
151. If OP didn't want to be insulted, she could've kept her woo-woo nonsense in the Astrology forum.
Lots of like-minded individuals in there who won't bother to question even the most bizarre superstitious nonsense.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:27 AM
Response to Reply #35
63. You spelled it wrong
it's spelled "woo"
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:28 AM
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49. OH NO MY MOM TOLD ME LAST NIGHT THE MOON WAS GOING TO KILL US ALL
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I'll never hear the end of it. "I told you so!"

:P
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:32 AM
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52. I admit I made a dumb comment, but I have my opinion. About drilling into the ground.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:35 AM
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57. Sorry to use your thread to post that, I didn't think it was worthy of an OP.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:16 AM
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85. Oh my gawd. That's almost worse.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #52
178. Science doesn't back that opinion up.
There is a concrete and objective reality out there, as much as some would like to deny it.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:33 AM
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53. caps
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:34 AM by Cetacea
edited
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:38 AM
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68. My mom really did tell me that last night, she saw a story about the moon being the biggest...
...it's been in 18 years. I swear she'll call me today to tell me she told me so! :D
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:25 AM
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62. It's BECAUSE WE BOMBED THE MOOOOOON!!!!!
I TOLD YOU!!!

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:30 AM
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65. the biggest earthquake in us history was in 1811. was the planet sending
messages to change course then too?

come on, stuff like that isn't helpful in an emergency.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:02 PM
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130. Mother Nature was still pissed at the Louisiana Purchase.
She's tight with the French, and thought that they got ripped off.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:03 PM
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179. You don't think that was a direct response to the Battle of Tippecanoe?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 06:03 PM by Codeine
Gaia was lamenting the defeat of Tecumseh. It's all in the stars, man.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:15 PM
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210. Hey, at least the OP didn't blame it on the CIA's secret earthquake machine.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:23 PM
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211. I forgot about that thread.
Epic stuff, our shared DU history.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:34 AM
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67. hahah
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:02 AM
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69. with respect, the earth doesn't "care" about anything
It is a big ball of rock and molten iron heating, cooling, and spinning. It's not telling anyone anything. It just is.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:07 AM
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71. Oh FFS!
It's plate tectonics and a subduction fault that has been occurring since before mankind walked the earth. Good grief!
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:37 AM
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72. The earth is just a rock. Its not saying anything. It doesn't care what we do.
The earth has no concern about what humans do. It is not intelligent. Its a planet, nothing more.
People are the only intelligent force capable of voicing their opinions on this planet.

Lets try not to get all squishy by assigning motives to a rock. thank you.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:57 AM
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73. Easy there...
It is not just 'a rock' and it really is a living, breathing organism on it's own.

see: Gaia Hypothesis
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:04 AM
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75. Gaia Hypothesis is B.S.
It is just a rock despite all the little cartoons you may watch.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:10 AM
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80. how does it reproduce?
.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:15 PM
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185. It send Captain Planet to bars and "hangs out." Mullet get the girls every time.
Chick dig a smurfin blue 70's guy with a mullet.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:46 PM
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205. I don't want to be here during the mating season for planets.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:13 PM
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237. The moon is an Earth baby. eom
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:04 PM
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180. Gaia Hypothesis is goofy bullshit.
The 70s called -- they want their science back.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #73
191. NO. The Earth is NOT a living, breathing organism on it's own.
Its a rock.
There is no Gaia. No Planeteers. No Captain Planet.

Its nice that there is an atmosphere, water and soil...but these things were all here long before primitive cavemen first spoke about a mother earth.

besides if the planet gets upset and kills innocent people who committed no crime, then we will need to put the planet in its place. A natural disaster in the third world is not a rebuke to the people of America. If it is, then Gaia is a crappy shot, cause she keeps missing the mark.

And what kind of person is Gaia if she gets homicidal whenever she gets concerned?

People can talk. Why doesn't Gaia simply speak to us? She could use energy generated by fault lines to send TV signals to all the earth.

She could send a million flying My Little Ponies to speak to us all. Pink ones.

If Gaia fails to communicate, then its not my fault for not believing her. And communication thru a believer doesn't count. Gaia has to do it.

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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:32 PM
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192. what does it eat and what does it breathe? does it fart?
Does it follow Charlie Sheen?
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:13 AM
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82. Not unlike spitting into the wind..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #72
110. I will put doubts on only humans being intelligent
but after that... yep, it is a rock... and tectonic plates work under pressure
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:23 PM
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119. We're you here when "Obama bombed the moon?"
It was one of the funniest times on DU ever. Posts about Obama "raping mother moon" and stuff like that. Posts about the moon splitting in half. All kinds of funny stuff. :rofl:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:07 PM
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208. Good times that was
Good time. :rofl:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:05 AM
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76. A prudent California Peninsula resident who believes this will relocate. nt
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:29 AM
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89. Personally, I blame George Bush and the republicans
But then, I blame EVERYTHING on George Bush and the republicans, so perhaps that comment should be taken with a grain of salt. Or two.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:38 AM
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90. "It is just a matter of time"
I knew it was just a matter of time before someone would come wailing about us angering the gods.

Go sacrifice a goat or something, you'll feel better.
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revolution breeze Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:45 AM
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92. Tornadoes and flooding
Wednesday and Thursday in the US, now this......
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:58 AM
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98. I'm sick of hippies.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:33 PM
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239. We are probably sick of you too n/t
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:17 PM
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101. I can't get past "The Earth is keeps sending"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



I swear, some of the shows on the Discovery channel should be required watching for folks...

New series right now about How the Earth was made...Watch it, you might learn something.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:20 PM
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103. God hates Japan.
:shrug:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:23 PM
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104. i think the planet is an inanimate object
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:25 PM by pitohui
not a magic goddess who can magically heal herself

the people who bought into that bullshit did great harm, they diverted energy that might have actually gone into doing something useful instead of dancing around in drum circles

i have friends who danced around in circles trying to call down the space brothers and i have friends who get out there documenting species and protecting habitat

guess which friends have actually DONE something effective, and first two guesses don't count
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:16 PM
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186. Although inanimate, it is beautifully active. Although dancing and singing won't...
change a thing about the way the Earth "behaves". If it makes the people feel good, so be it.
If it lets them believe it makes a difference, so be it.
Life is short. One does something that makes them believe they are making a difference; they die; the sun eventually expands and kills all life. Some die happy; some die frustrated.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:26 PM
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105. Thank you for pointing out that which some here choose to ignore.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:44 PM
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107. What did dinosaurs do to be wiped out? I thought quakes have happened for longer than the last
100 yrs since we've been drilling for oil. Odd. Must be my memory slipping.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #107
145. Dinosaurs were heavy and this helped to unbalance the natural balance. eom
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #145
213. Ah, thank you for the coherent description. And thanks mods for leaving this thread open
we can use some humor right now
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:40 PM
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106. Earthquakes and tsunami have been around for millions of years
Before mankind even had a negative effect on the earth.

They're not an attempt to "heal" anything any more than thunderstorms or snowstorms are.

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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #106
129. Billions....
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:33 PM by snooper2
The waves that were around 1-2 billion years ago were monsters, of course the moon was a lot closer then.....

Now people will say, the moon used to be closer to the earth? WTF? Then they will have to use the googles :rofl:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:45 PM
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109. 2012 babeee!!!!!!
WOOT WOOT!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #109
117. The bad news is there will be no Christmas!
The good news is there will be no Christmas shopping!

:rofl:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:47 PM
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111. Sigh
No. Just...no.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:59 PM
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112. You know those old Chiffon margarine commercials weren't documentaries, right?
Mother Nature is not pissed off.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:22 PM
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118. Does this mean I don't have to throw away all my margarine?
I was sure I was about to cause a cataclysmic event by my selfish use of a non natural spread. :scared:

I used to love the cute raccoon in the Chiffon margarine commercials when I was a little girl. :)

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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #112
261. It's not nice to fool mother nature lol, I remember those
lou
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:13 PM
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115. We're doing plenty to "Piss Off Earth" (metaphorically speaking), but this is just silly
Continental drift has been going on for a few hundred million years, and it's going to keep on keeping on for a few hundred million years more.

Or, to put it in simpler terms yet, it ain't about US.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:20 PM
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116. Yes, because there were never earthquakes prior to humans
:shrug:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:27 PM
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121. I wish.
The only way the rest of the animals have any chance in the future is if something knocks humanity down to 1 billion. posthaste
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. You realize you are fantasizing about the deaths of 5 billion people?
I'm sorry, but that's offensive.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:18 AM
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256. Actually you missed one billion
Sorry my gallows humor is showing

(Current population, 7.1 billion)
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #121
126. Out of morbid curiosity
Where are you getting the one billion number from as a stustainable number of humans?
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #126
133. with our needs
water, food, stuff.

7 billion is ridiculously unsustainable and that's with 5 billion of us living like medieval times. As more are able to eat and wear and drive whatever they want, the rest of the Earth will die more. and more. and the poorest people will continue to suffer the most.

And to anyone offended by my disrespect of their species :eyes: oh gosh, but I am not sorry. That pride is like religion now, pointless. Humans deserve a beat-down for how they are violating the future of the rest of the species, all of them good enough to live sustainable lives.
My 'faith' in humanity would be restored if we could make it to the next century without raping to death the entire rest of the planet. That is not going to happen though.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:45 PM
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140. I'm pretty sure we humans give ourselves...
"Humans deserve a beat-down for how they are violating the future..."

I'm pretty sure we humans give ourselves "beatdowns" already-- with or without the assistance of natural causes.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #133
146. And those poor people whose suffering you're so concerned about
would be the first to go in your planned extinction of 5 billion people.

Let me guess, you'll be one of the ones that is too special to die off, right?
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:10 PM
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157. nope
I am no more special than any starving child, no more special than you, no more special than the forests destroyed to grow my food.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #157
158. Nothing about those poor people for whom you claim to care so much?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 05:15 PM by superduperfarleft
Again, in any mass extinction event, they'd be the first to go. As famine and disease sweep Africa, Asia, etc., are you going to sit back from the safety of the first-world and clap because the earth is finally ridding itself of the scourge of humanity?
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:29 PM
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162. "humanity"
I'm going to view them the same way I do right now. Their lifestyle is not the problem but they will pay for what ours means to the planet. The rest of the beings will pay too, we're already starting a mass extinction, killing oceans, razing forests. Oh but I'm supposed to have Faith in humankind.

The owners of the world in the 22nd century will be the descendants of the luckiest 1st-worlders of now, it's terrible what's going to happen. The luckiest humans will survive it though.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #133
193. 5 Billion people have to die?!! You first please.
I'm gonna eat my jelly donuts ripped from the bosom of the earth until I die at 94.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:12 AM
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253. You first. nt
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #121
143. gmafb.
"give me a fucking break"
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #121
144. And in the end, the sun will expand and destroy ALL life on Earth and it won't make...
a difference if we shit, piss, or wave a white flag.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #144
155. this
ty, for this makes much more sense than the bitter defense of all Humanity
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #155
249. there would be plenty of resources to go around if there
were fewer wars, for a start. Not sure you are correct about the lack of sustainability and your "blaming" the human race seems pretty absurd.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #155
258. Right. Most of humanity is disposable, just not you, since you have a garden.
:eyes:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #258
279. "just not you"
I have tried to make it very clear to you that I am the most disposable.

Please say more.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #279
283. Keep backpedalin'
:hi:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #144
169. Yep. And it will be prudent not to be here (as a species) when that happens
Although I doubt we have to worry much, on that score...
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #169
173. But if we try to escape, maybe the Earth will get REALLY REALLY angry...
and send a message that we better not even think about it!
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #144
301. Oh yawnmaster, we were lied to. Andromeda will seal our sun's fate much sooner.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #121
183. You first.
And your entire family and all your friends.

Your parents. Your children. Your favorite niece.

All of your loved ones and anyone about whom you care in any way.

Everyone who's ever had a kind word for you. Anyone who has ever impressed you with their intellect or made you catch your breath at their sheer gorgeousness.

Anyone who ever made you laugh or cry tears of joy.

Anyone whose memory makes you smile.

Then we'll talk about other people.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #183
195. golly I've never heard that one before
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 06:38 PM by stuntcat
:eyes: what a genius you were to come up with this response.

As amazingly interesting as my neighbors' two rich lucky boys are, I am still aware what their creation means now for the rest of the animals on Earth. I am still aware that they will probably live to see 2100. I am so glad I only have to witness to 2050 or 2060 (edit- I'm sticking around for my family, but living as low-carbon a life as I can until the end) it is just cruel to keep giving kids the mess we're making, even if they're the lucky ones who'll always have food and water.

I'm sorry but I've felt this way long enough to have heard every Smart response, so I get kinda eye-rolley when I hear them for the hundredth time.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #195
200. If you had the courage of your convictions
you'd do something about it. Instead you just bitch about it on discussion boards. The VHEMTers have never been worth taking seriously.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:11 PM
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209. "you'd do something about it"?
"courage of my convictions"

I'm not at war with your species ok

I am not making a baby, for that I've had to stand up to some very strong personal bullying. It has taken a lot of courage, whether you believe anything I say or not. My only "conviction" is to have a light print on the Earth and I do what I can to make sure of that.

Maybe you mean I should kill myself.. I'm sorry but I have a few people and a garden that need me to stay.

You've taught me something, thank you for your very thoughtful responses.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #209
257. "I have a few people and a garden that need me to stay."... whereas the other 6 Billion of us
are disposable?

:puke:. Seriously. Fucking :puke:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:18 AM
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276. oh you are so sickened by what's in my heart.
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 10:36 AM by stuntcat
"disposable" ..sigh.

I am not seriously calling for the violent end of 5 billion people.

This seems personal with you so if you want to get into talking about vhemt then you'll want to know that their motto is "live long and die out".

The only reason I have more radical feelings than that is because I am so horrified at the world we are giving the children now. Very violent events will happen. For the sake of every other species on the planet it would be better for them to occur right now than in 100 years after we have killed so many kinds of life on the planet and made it so even the humans can hardly use it

I do not expect you to see what I care about. TY for your feelings, I am remembering everything you've told me.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:32 PM
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284. "I wish"
That's what you said, in the very first post of the sub-thread. "I wish".

I'm sorry -really I am- that you're so depressed and angry, but I suspect the problem isn't in the world at large. It may be in your own brain chemistry.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:13 AM
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267. What a despicable sentiment. You have a garden that "needs" you but 6 billion people should die?
Just revolting. Truly.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:22 AM
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277. ...
if that's what you wanna think I care about then fine.. I am the monster.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:41 AM
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292. I think it's up for consideration, that's for sure.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:30 AM
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281. I will stand by what I care for.
I do not wish people physical harm.

how do the defenders of all humanity feel about the 40,000 children who will starve to death today. How do you shining examples justify your species wiping out so many others and making the place unlivable for your own children.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:18 PM
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125. "Zeus is angry that we stole fire from Mt. Olympus" "God is angry about gay sex"
"Mother Earth is angry about human technology"


...etc. etc..
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:02 PM
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152. Time to summon the Vestal Virgins, butcher a holy chicken, and examine its entrails for "signs"....
:rofl:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:04 PM
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131. Recommended because there's no dogpile like a good DU dogpile
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:05 PM
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132. It's "tsunami" with a T, and Santa Cruz actually did get hit with this one
just south of the Peninsula. All it did was wash away a few docks, thankfully.

In any case only a few lightly populated areas Coastside would be in the inundation zone -- unless one got into the Bay itself. :scared:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:24 PM
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134. The next time someone laughs at a Creationist...
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 04:26 PM by LanternWaste
The next time someone laughs at a Creationist, I will point to this OP, shake my head sadly, and feel compelled to say, "sorry, sweetheart-- it ain't necessarily religion, it's people."
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:37 PM
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137. Exactly ej510
it will heal itself of it's scab: us
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:01 PM
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150. LOL! Good one. But you forgot the sarcasm thingy. n/t.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:46 PM
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225. What you've done is replaced man the sinner with man the eco-sinner
religious guilt with enviro-guilt, and "God" with Earth.

We are just as much a natural part of Earth and it's processes as anything else. Cities and diesel trucks are just as "natural" as rainforests.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:44 PM
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139. Call congress immediately and tell them to do something about continental drift...
Not enough money is spent on planning.
We are unbalancing the tectonic plates because we build in places we shouldn't.
Do you know how much a modern skyscraper weighs? And you expect the Earth to support that kind of weight without rebelling!?

So please, call congress and get them to put money into finding a way to stop this drift, this grinding of plates.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:58 PM
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147. Wow, people sure do believe in a lot of stupid things. n/t
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:35 PM
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218. Good cartoon here
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:00 PM
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149. Pat Robertson couldn't have said it better.
:eyes:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:22 PM
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159. I believe the OP is referring to our lack of responding to global warming.
Geez you guys are harsh.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:24 PM
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160. That's not the message I got. eom
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:13 PM
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184. Earthquakes have sweet fuck-all to do with our response to global warming.
He might as well have blamed it on not spaying and neutering your pets or high fructose corn syrup.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:28 PM
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189. Yep. Or circumcision. Or eating meat. Or Michael Vick....have I missed any?
:hide:
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #189
207. Obama.
The man with the Earthquake Hand!
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:49 PM
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206. No, we're the REALITY-BASED party
Seriously, dude. Why not just claim that Zeus has gotten the hots for Hera and she's on the rag, so he's horny, pissed and shaking the earth?

Our society is kind of based on that thing called "science". Magical thinking hasn't done much for mankind.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:27 PM
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161. Earth's Loud Message: "CANCEL THE JERSEY SHORE!"
It's clear to me that Mother Earth's loud message to all of us is "CANCEL THE JERSEY SHORE!"

It's either that, or Charlie Sheen REALLY is a warlock, and he does have powers that are beyond our imagination.

Perhaps the message is "BRING BACK TWO AND A HALF MEN WITH CHARLIE SHEEN!"
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #161
165. Or at least kick Sammie and Ronnie off the show.
I seriously cannot watch another minute of those two.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:50 PM
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172. This is what gives the climate-deniers fuel
Crazy ass statements like this.

No, this had absolutely nothing to do with climate change, wars, gods, angels, devils, negative vibes, homosexuals, heterosexuals, kitty porn or any other thing we do.

This is all about plate techtonics
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:40 PM
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199. THE ARISTOCRATS!!!
It was time.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:43 PM
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248. Congrats, I lol'ed. n/t
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:43 AM
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282. A reply that's never out of place...
:thumbsup:

Sid
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:43 PM
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201. Uh - these events were happening long before anything called "man"
You are not making any sense.

Haven't you ever heard of Pangaea?
http://geology.com/pangea.htm

The earth's crust has never been stable. This is, geologically speaking, NORMAL.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:46 PM
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204. come on man. Don't be so human centered. Before man the Earth often got pissed at other things...
It is very sensitive.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:55 PM
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231. Permanent PMS? n/t
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:23 PM
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214. hmm?
I think it's in the nature of plates to shift- they are massive. I really don't think we have that much effect on em. Japan sits on the convergence of 3 plates- it was bound to happen at some point.


The planet will still be here long after mankind has evolved into god knows what. :shrug:
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:57 PM
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232. Hum...
Probably Eloi and Morlocks.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:11 PM
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243. he!


:rofl:
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:45 PM
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223. Many of the responses on this thread make me very sad
Humans have been abusing the planet for centuries and we have no real clue as to the effect we are having on nature. Co2 emissions, warming, ozone depletion, hydro fracking, nuclear testing, do any one of us dare to say that humans have no influence on what's happening geologically?

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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:53 PM
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230. Because we actually have a pretty solid understanding of how
geology and plate tectonics work. There's no need for baseless speculation and fairy stories anymore; science is our candle in the dark.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:03 PM
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234. I dare say it! We do not affect tectonic plates! And if the Earth doesn't like...
me saying so, then open up and swallow me now.

Now I'm not saying we don't affect the Earth geologically by making her mad. That is possible.
Only that we don't affect her plates in the ways you say above.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:11 PM
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236. Fuckin' Magnets- How Do They Work??? nt
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:42 PM
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247. .
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:23 AM
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270. Tide goes in...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:55 PM
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252. humans don't cause major earthquakes
yes we affect the climate and the creatures that live on the planet, but we don't cause plates to shift. :shrug:
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:19 PM
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238. IBTL - I want to thank everyone who posted on this thread
The humor brightened up this poor lad's day.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:43 PM
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240. It just wants to reunite Pangea.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:28 PM
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244. Terra Terra Terra
Guess what.
Plates move.
Before us.
During us.
After us.
Everything isn't a man made disaster.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:40 PM
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245. A message of hope for those who choose to hear it and a warning for those who do not."
Alrighty, then ... picture this if you will.

10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes,
in my "need to know" pose, just outside of Area 51
Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thingy
when a flaming stealth banana split the sky
like one would hope but never really expect
to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime
and stopping right at my Birkenstocks,
and me yelping...
Holy fucking shit!

Then the X-Files being,
Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan
with Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of
vanilla Chig Champa
Did a slow-mo Matrix descent
Outta the butt end of the banana vessel
And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,
and my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,
and all I could think was:
"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice
that I pissed my fuckin' pants."

So light in his way,
Like an apparition,
He had me crying out,
"Fuck me
It's gotta be
the Deadhead Chemistry
The blotter got on top of me
Got me seein' E-motherfuckin'-T!"

And after calming me down
with some orange slices
and some fetal spooning,
E.T. revealed to me his singular purpose.
He said, "You are the Chosen One,
the One who will deliver the message.
A message of hope for those who choose to hear it
and a warning for those who do not."
Me. The Chosen One?
They chose me!!!
And I didn't even graduate from fuckin' high school.

You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better listen.

Then he looked right through me
With somniferous almond eyes
Don't even know what that means
Must remember to write it down
This is so real
Like the time Dave floated away
See, my heart is pounding
'Cause this shit never happens to me

I can't breathe right now!

It was so real,
Like I woke up in Wonderland.
All sorta terrifying
I don't wanna be all alone
While I tell this story.
And can anyone tell me why
Y'all sound like Peanuts parents?
Will I ever be coming down?
This is so real
Finally, it's my lucky day
See, my heart is racing
'Cause this shit never happens to me

I can't breathe right now!

You believe me, don't you?
Please believe what I've just said!
See the Dead ain't touring
And this wasn't all in my head.
See, they took me by the hand
And invited me right in.
Then they showed me something
I don't even know where to begin.

Strapped down my bed
Feet cold eyes red
I'm out of my head
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Can't remember what they said
God damn, shit the bed.

Hey ...

Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be the One
Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see.

But I forgot my pen
Shit the bed again ...
Typical.

Strapped down my bed
Feet cold and eyes red
I'm out of my head
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Sunkist * and Sudafed
Gyroscopes and infrared
Won't help, I'm brain dead
Can't remember what they said
God damn, shit the bed

I can't remember what they said to me
Can't remember what they said to make me out to be the hero
Can't remember what they said
Bob help me!
Can't remember what they said

don't know, won't know (x12)

God damn, shit the bed!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:17 AM
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255. You need to read the book Phoenix Rising
the wise words of a Native American Wise woman.. A seer if you will.
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:27 AM
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259. This is as stupid as saying god did it to punish sin. First ever UNREC!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:53 AM
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265. Umm. OK
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:18 AM
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268. Am I wrong for thinking your Jesus is kinda hot?
:yoiks:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:24 AM
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271. He knows how to dress, I'll give him that much.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:19 AM
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269. Tectonic plates moved. Always has - for centuries.... eom
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:56 AM
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274. Check out the 'Super Moon' as a possibility->
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 08:03 AM by Obamanaut
http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/46883/supermoon-and-earthquakes-is-t.asp

edited to add excerpt <snip> "...A "supermoon" occurs when a new or full moon is at or near (within 90 percent of) its closest approach to Earth in a given orbit. This is the definition provided by Astrologer Richard Nolle, who gave this phenomenon its name in 1979...."



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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:32 PM
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286. Nothing to look at here
Move along.

;-)
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:29 AM
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289. True. This was posted by way of poking at the idea of 'drilling thousands
of miles' into the earth as causing earthquake/tsunami, mentioned in a couple of posts. I am even aware that the moon does not contribute to 'lunacy.'
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:00 AM
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293. I don't know that the moon doesn't contribute to lunacy
Emergency room statistics show otherwise. Visits are higher on full moons. I'm sure the correlation can be explained by science, but grants for woo-woo are hard to come by these days. It's probably some magnetic, gravitational energy thing that drills all the way into synaptic firings.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:43 PM
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294. As the Swayze character in "Roadhouse" said, 'Opinions vary.' nt
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:48 PM
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295. And violent crime and ice cream consumption both increase in the summer.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 01:48 PM by superduperfarleft
Ice cream turns people into homicidal maniacs!!!!!

Or maybe all that homicidin' just makes people crave ice cream.
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #274
287. Bad Astronomy just dealt with this crap pretty well
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/

Scroll down a couple of articles.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:31 AM
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290. I was poking fun, not serious at all ->
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:25 AM
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280. There have always been quakes and tsunamis.
There just weren't that many people around, nor were communications so swift.
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JesterCS Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:01 PM
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288. Disturbed - Another Way To Die. good song n/t
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:39 AM
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291. yes, and gaia will rise and the titans will create new gods and those gods will create humans
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Travelman Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:54 PM
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296. This thread delivers!
I swear I haven't laughed this hard in ages.

I planted a boxwood shrubbery in the yard last Wednesday afternoon, which apparently is what caused the earthquake in Japan. Sorry about that, Japan! :wow:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:13 PM
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297. "tsunami" get the Earth's message right, will you?Ignore silent "t" and the death comet will come.
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 03:19 PM
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302. Dihydrogen monoxide responsible for widespread destruction in Japan.
CALL CONGRESS NOW!!!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 03:23 PM
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303. There are two ways to live. With the Earth, and against the Earth.
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