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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:55 PM Original message |
My analysis of Obama |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. He doesin't seem to mind being disliked by the people |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. With a country as diverse as ours, how is he supposed to be "liked" |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. He isn't, he has a choice of who he cares to please. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. He never tried to take a stand on behalf of progressive Democrats? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Progressive Dems are the ones who got him elected. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Democrats from across the spectrum got him elected. Most Dems |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Duers are from across the spectrum also. I eg, am very conservative |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Again, I disagree that the hard work was done only by the progressives. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I would agree that the base no longer is progressive. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. every poll of liberals I've seen, shows him to be quite popular with them |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. If he was watching the election results last November |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. um, he wasn't on the ballot in November |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Yes, he was ~ the health care debacle was on the ballot. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Obama was not on the ballot. And Congress was just as responsible |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. The other way of reading the election results is that without Obama |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I guess it is best not to put too much faith in polls. nt |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. .......... |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hard to say -- you never know what's in someone else's head -- |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. In what context do you mean "weak?" Because I see him get very feisty when it comes to progressive |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. He flies under the radar |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. You mean like that important piece of legislation that's going through in Wisconsin? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. Although not as much as I wish were happening, I think he is doing best he can in an awful situation |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. He fears being labeled an angry black man |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Then he is weak. Why should he worry about what people think of |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Labeling isn't acceptable. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. I don't think he fears that at all. |
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NillaWafers (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Wow. He's President Of The United States and he is worried about what people think of him??? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. If he's afraid of that, he shouldn't have run for president. |
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Moondog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. That's the generous take. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. The generous take vs the likely take |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. I can picture his first day in office. Some armed goons sat him down and told him how things are |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I think so too, and they got to him with |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I agree. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Tough for him to do anything with the bought and paid for whores in congress. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Or the Goldman Sachs guys he surrounded himself with. |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
23. I think Obama just doesn't have the right temperament . . . |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. "He's a weak man with a desire to be liked" |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. The comment about weak man wanting to be liked is not worth a fiber of hair off my head. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. People think about politicians the wrong way. They're basically |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. you are about as smart as dr michael parenti, which is very |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That was an interesting point. |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. absutively. here are my two favorite parenti lectures |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. Progressive interests are held in check by corporate power, not the presidency. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Well, if we accept your analysis it really doesn't matter |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Of course it matters who wins the presidency! |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think he is a man who is determined to do things by the book, unlike the previous |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. I couldn't disagree more. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
29. Yes, he is a "go along to get along" type. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. My most enduring memory of Obama the candidate was his appearance on Leno. |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. That was my impression as well |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. The Letterman appearance gave me the willies, the one where he read the phonebook |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
34. Your analysis is out of touch with reality. He's a guy who wants to get things done which is how |
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NillaWafers (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
38. Wow. How come you weren't able to see this about Obama two years ago? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
43. I think he simply sold out, and justifies it through pretzel logic. |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
49. Bingo! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
52. Cali, I think the issue here is that Obama is essentially a conservative. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Could be, but I don't see that in his history |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I would argue that he's complacent, which is not far from weak, |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
59. Regardless of the musings at the top of this post, the central point is true and trumps all |
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