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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:41 PM Original message |
Poll question: Pearl Harbor: Should Obama go to Wisconsin NOW? |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. No It's part of his master plan to act like a Republican for the first 4 years of his term. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And then the first 4 years of his hypothetical second term. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. But if he doesn't act like a Republican then the Republicans won't like him. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. And if he acts like a Republican, they still won't like him. |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, he had his chance to take a stand. This one belongs to US!!! |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. He should nationalize the govt of Wisconsin. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. I've read a lot of dumb things... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. And ignoring the crimes they've committed isn't? |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The heart and soul of representative democracy... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. When they actively work to break the state laws & Constitution that grants them their authority |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Go get an indictment... |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. He should at least make a statement |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. First off, FDR did NOT straddle the fence |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. With regard to OUR MILITARY, yes, he did. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. We sent massive military aide to England |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. We sold them things. We did not put "our boys" and our butts in the fight |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I think a comparison with Neville Chamberlain might work better here |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Actually, I take that back |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. NO! The repukes want to tie him to "radicals" and they would love to see him there! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. The rupukes aren't the ones who will vote for him |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. It's called strategy. Of course Obama supports unions, if not no re-election, duh nt |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. "Hey unions, we have to be SECRET friends, okay?" |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. SUPER secret! |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. Repukes control him too damn much |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
61. WTF? |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
77. Exactly- What is he to be protected FROM? WINNING?? Being on the RIGHT SIDE?? nt |
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inademv (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes, because the assault on collective bargaining rights |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. No FDR didn't he worked within, barely, the law as |
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B2G (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. What shoudl he do when he gets there? n/t |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Give a speech and build morale. MORALE is what the people of Wisconsin need to sustain them. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. NO NO NO |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. So Obama isn't a man of the people, and he doesn't represent you? nt |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. We know exactly who he works for and he needs to stay away. nt |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
58. I agree 100%. nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. He's not a working class leader. He should make statements of solidarity, give resources, and stay |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. + a million - nt |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. He was one. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. NO - What is he going to do there? |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Make DU'ers happy... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. Not if he really doesn't want to. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. Go to Wisconsin and do what? Make a speech about being a "fierce advocate" for Labor Unions? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. No, it would be distracting, insincere, and will not turn anyone else on to the movement who isn't |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I disagree. It would coalesce the movement behind a leader in a position of strength. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
31. Should and Will are mutually exclusive |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. I voted 'no' because, were Obama to inject himself into it, the right |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm a Wisconsinite with a dog in this fight and I still say "no". |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If he did, I think it would fundamentally change him. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. To be honest, I am not worried about him, but being in WI I am concerned about us here. n/t |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. I concur. Also as a Wisconsin resident. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. LAUGHABLE.. |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
38. He's done. So I don't care whether he goes or not. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
39. He should take a firm stand with the workers. He's leaving them |
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TheWebHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. go there and do what? |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. uh... LEAD! |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Building morale and hope is what Obama does best. That's what Wisconsin workers need. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Shovel snow. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. This is sarcasm, right? |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why? Public opinion is completely against the Republicans on this. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Obama doesn't support this fight and tried to discourage any DNC support for Wisconsin's workers. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #52 |
71. So suppose that's true. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #71 |
87. Well if President Obama doesn't support the workers he should not be there! |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. For the protestors themselves. This has turned into a morale game. |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. No, he shouldn't. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Everything has changed now. There wouldn't be a "You're late to the party" response if he showed up |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. The whole affair has been "ridiculous and unacceptable." |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Are you fucking kidding me? If he stepped in now- ala Pearl Harbor- you'd hold it against him? nt |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. I'm ALREADY holding it against him. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
54. Baby, its too late. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
59. I don't see how it would help. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. If he goes to Wisconsin he will probably get all reachy outy with Walker |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. It's not tangible. It's about giving those in Wisconsin the hope to sustain them, the hope |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
64. NO. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. If they win- long-term- legislatively, we're not going to win the message war. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. We agree 100%. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Whoever it is- and I think it's pretty clear it should be President- they need long-term morale and |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
67. No; he's still less popular than the protest. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. I think he would increase his own popularity back to his campaign levels as well as strengthen the |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Liberals remain the group with which he is most popular. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:28 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Independents with an economic populist streak are what he has lost. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Where do you gsther that? n/t |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
68. That is what they want, to embroil Obama. They control the media story, after all. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
72. If he's willing to throw a brick, yeah |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
75. The horse has left the barn! A day late and a dollar short for Obama to have much impact. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
78. Negativity, undue caution, and cowardice will destroy our resistance to this legislation. nt |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
81. No. Secret Service protection would disrupt everything |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
82. Obama has already pulled DNC supporters in Wisconsin out -- so think we |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
83. NO - ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Wisconsin-ites are doing very fine on their own.... |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
86. No, there are enough republicans there already. |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Hehe and a kick for this great *snark* |
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