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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:04 PM
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Ugh....so true and sure to get worse. Gas prices.....
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:47 PM
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1. Well, now that the #1 guy has a D by his name, we really don't care...
about oil companies fucking over the poor, and $4/gal gas isn't really that new worthy.

Just like we said under Bush, right?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:14 PM
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2. It's still George Bush's fault.
:)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:58 PM
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25. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 06:59 PM by SpiralHawk
"Sneer." xVP Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheneny (R)
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 09:20 PM
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3. Oh believe me, I damn well care! I'm very lucky in that I can seriously limit
the amount that I drive but I know many people who aren't as lucky. I have friends who are barely making it as it is, were barely able to feed themselves & their kids even when adding in whatever they could get with food stamps, have to drive a distance to work (I live in a fairly rural area) and it's killing them. It was hell when it was $4+ under Bush. And for people who have to live in their cars, shit -- gas prices like this could literally be killer prices. Though I'm lucky that I don't have to drive much, it also leaves me more isolated. My social outlets are visiting with friends or visa versa and doing volunteer work. All of that gets curtailed when gas prices get so high -- my human contact at that point is over the phone and via the Internet. I can post a cartoon about it -- sometimes I for one just have to laugh when things get really bad.

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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:19 AM
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10. be vewy vewy quiet
let's not make him look bad
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 09:21 PM
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4. $4/gallon is about when people who have a choice start considering public transit
too bad the repukes want to cut over $200 million from Amtrak alone. :grr:
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 10:43 PM
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5. Although some of those like the rural poor who do not have a public
transit option get to choose between gas to get to work vs. food for the family or paying the electric bill. But at least public transit ridership will go up in the cities, right?!?!?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:17 PM
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6. Whatever rural transit there is is probably also on the chopping block
why rural Americans lean repuke is beyond me. :eyes:
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:58 PM
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7. There is a bit of public transit in my county seat and down to one
suburb (if you call a 25,000 person city a city and a 3000 person town a suburb. Cost just went up to $1.85 per ride but monthly passes are available that are a decent price ($75 per month). However, the other 90,000 in the county are pretty much out of luck.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:38 AM
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12. Plenty of people right here on DU buying and driving big ass trucks
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 01:38 AM by taught_me_patience
so they can haul refridgerators once a year.

$4/gallon is nowhere near the tipping point.

edited for spelling
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:09 AM
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8. I don't think the President (whoever it is) personally controls the price of gas.
It's OPEC that does that, IMO. Has nothing to do with who is in the White House, or even if anyone is in the White House.

Good thing Obama has been working on, and gotten passed, more laws on freeing us from the use of oil than any President in history. Higher mpg regs went into effect this year. More next year. And more the next year. Culminating in I think required 35mpg for cars in 2016. (Bush's requirement, by contrast, was something like 25mpg by 2020 or 2030.) But the automakers are aligned with the GOP right at this very minute, trying to get Obama's new laws repealed.

The clunker program worked tremendously.

More tax credits for green alternatives than ever before in our country's history (from cars to houses to appliances).

A plan for high speed rail is being worked on. The Dems are working on getting that done; the Repubs are working on blocking it.

The REAL question is...what have YOU done to help us along with this? Do you have a car that gets over 25mpgcity/35mpg hwy? A hybrid? A diesel? Do you use fluorescents in your house? Did you use the clunker program? (I didn't qualify; I missed it by 2 mpg, I think.) Do you take public transportation to work, if available? Do you carpool? Do you recycle your trash? Have you checked into getting a small wind turbine for power for your home? Or solar panels? (I've checked into that; they're very expensive around here, with installation.) Have you tried to get your home down 10% to 25% in energy usage by caulking around windows, adding insulation where you can, etc.?

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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:16 PM
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15. It ain't OPEC either
It's mostly the dirtbag trash speculators on Wall Street that are bidding it sky high on just the rumor that a single barrel of oil leaked somewhere in the world. Shame TPTB couldn't be bothered to put a leash around them, but of course Republicans would yell if they ever dared doing it. Funny how just a few weeks ago they were saying gasoline inventories were at 21 year highs yet we're now paying through the ass for that same supply they bought dirt cheap.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:14 PM
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20. so you really think that our illegal attack on Iraq and fucked up war in Afghanistan
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 06:15 PM by northernlights
have had no effect on gas prices? Not to mention QEII (because of course shoving trillions of dollars to the banks so they could speculate on commodities like oil, just like they did with QEI, wouldn't effect prices either. Not to mention totally debasing the dollar so it has so little value when we go to buy...er...oil).

Ok....whatever :eyes:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:12 AM
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9. May, 2001
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 12:14 AM by krispos42



*sigh*











double *sigh*
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:17 AM
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11. I left $20.01 at the gas pump today.
It took my gas gauge from 3/4 to Full.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:39 AM
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13. So which is most important.....Low price at the pump or ME people's liberty?
Let me know when you decide...

Perhaps there can be some citizen's arrest made on the oil company,
who have been playing us all for fools for years now.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:29 PM
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19. Based on the ratio of bikes vs cars on the road I don't think it's a close call
But I could be wrong

:shrug:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:18 PM
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21. Liberty? gas prices are removing my liberty and when it passes $5.00 per gallon I'm done
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:11 PM
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14. Gas prices are what drop-kicked the economy over the cliff
in 2008. Any semblance of recovery when everyone's disposable income turns into exhaust and oil co. profits.

I'm glad we moved from the country to the town we work in back in 2007. Looks like it's going to pay off again.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:17 PM
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16. I wish we would just nationalize the oil industry.
At least then the people might have some say over it.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:27 PM
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18. The prices are set by OPEC. What good would nationalization do?
I guess we could make OPEC an offer they can't refuse but that wouldn't be very 'progressive.'

The oil industry has relatively low profit margins. They make their money in volume.

The problem is that people are so dependent on the stuff.

We could re-arrange our society but it might be too late for that now.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:23 PM
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23. The prices are set by OPEC -> we are OPEC!!!
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:52 PM
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24. We haven't been a Petroleum Exporting Country in a very long time
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:21 PM
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17. Food costs going to skyrocket since it takes fuel to get it to you
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:22 PM
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22. Not just food costs. Everything moves by truck, and it all takes fuel.
If this continues, we are all fucked.
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