Anonymous Will Avenge Manning

[kpete]

Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 01:24 PM EST
Anonymous Will Avenge Manning
http://www.dailykos.com/news/Palantir
by barrettbrown

This diary will be updated throughout the day as events warrant. For now, I will note that several media will be running with the Palantir http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201109/6894/Themis-Questions-about-Palantir-surface-in-HBGary-Federal-s-aftermath story soon and that meanwhile we have provided relevant evidence to all comers. Much of that evidence is posted below. We ask that those who care about restoring decency and transparency to this crippled republic assist us in spreading the word about the crimes of those individuals - not just the "corporations," but the people themselves, many of whom are now scrambling away from the press.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/03/952165/-Anonymous-Will-Avenge-Manning

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Here's a fun little connection between Palantir and BoA's law firm, Hunton & Williams, which not only saw but clearly provided input into the proposal in direct contradiction to the lies that have been told to the opposite effect.
http://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/...
http://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/aaron_hbgary_com/439.html

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Speaking of that law firm, Mr. John Woods has failed to return our calls. And speaking of Mr. Woods, here's the info we're comfortable providing on him at this point.

High School: Lynnfield High School '86 (small)
BA: Colby College 1990
JD: University of Virginia 1995
Contribute approx. $250 in '08
Political Donations: Gave money to John McCain
Father owns Noland Company
Annual Revenue $100-$500M
A Runner. Member of GRIPLA.ORG (Greater Richmond Intellectual Property Law Association. Has a blackberry and has installed the Facebook app for blackberry.

That took ten minutes. We have more. We always have more.

We will return to destroying Palantir in just a bit; updates coming soon.

And just to anticipate objections:

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forget.
We do not forgive.
Bradley must live.


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I knew something was coming re Palantir. However, I didn't know what. Now that you have explained how it is coming down, I question the wisdom of this:

a national television channel will be running with the Palantir story pursuant to an interview they did with us last week.

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GG article in Salon.com
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 05:16 ET
More facts emerge about the leaked smear campaigns
By Glenn Greenwald

So apparently, if Palantir's new version is to be believed, a 26-year-old engineer went off on his own and -- without any supervision or direction -- participated in the development of odious smear campaigns intended for two of the nation's deepest-pocket organizations (Bank of America and the Chamber), potential clients which the emails repeatedly emphasize would be very lucrative. I'll leave it to others to decide how credible that version is, but I will note that several facts undermine it:

http://www.salon.com/...


http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html

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Facebook Investor Peter Thiel: Palantir Is The Next Facebook Or Google
http://blogs.forbes.com/oliverchiang/2011/02/28/facebook-investor-peter-thiel-palantir-is-the-next-facebook-or-google/

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We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us
By: emptywheel Thursday March 3, 2011 9:48 am

So if the government maintains that, by virtue of being an intelligence target, WikLeaks qualifies as an “enemy,” then they can also argue that Manning intentionally gave WikiLeaks information about how the government was targeting the organization. Which would make their aiding the enemy charge easy to prove.

But I also think that opens up the government to charges that it is criminalizing democracy.

As I noted above, the government’s own report on WikiLeaks describes its purpose to be increasing the accountability of democratic or corrupt governments. The government, by its own acknowledgment, knows that WikiLeaks’ intent is to support democracy. Furthermore, while the intelligence report reviews the debate about whether WikiLeaks constitutes protected free speech or criminal behavior (without taking a side in that debate), in a discussion of WikiLeaks’ efforts to verify an NGIC report on the battle of Fallujah, the report acknowledges that WikiLeaks did the kind of thing journalists do.

Wikileaks.org and some other news organizations did attempt to contact the NGIC personnel by e-mail or telephone to verify the information.

(snip)

Given the high visibility and publicity associated with publishing this classified report by Wikileaks.org, however, attempts to verify the information were prudent and show journalist responsibility to the newsworthiness or fair use of the classified document if they are investigated or challenged in court.

So while the military, according to its own report, describes WikiLeaks as a threat to the armed forces, it also acknowledges that WikiLeaks has behaved, at times, as a journalistic organization.

Mind you, all of this is simply a wildarsed guess about what the government may mean with its invocation of the “enemy.” But if I’m right, it would mean the government was threatening Manning with life in prison because he leaked information about the government’s surveillance of what it admits is an entity that engages in journalistic behavior.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/03/03/we-have-met-the-enemy-and-he-is-us/

[KansDem]

1. I'm curious...is there any other developed country where its military tortures its soldiers?

I wondering if this 7-month solitary confinement was ordered as a warning to others...

[gateley]

3. Probably, but it doesn't matter. This is America - we profess to be

better and more fair than the other countries in the world.

I think this is criminal and everyone from Obama on down should be ashamed at this action. It is what we would expect from Cheney.

[JuniperLea]

18. I think it's criminal that we have all ignored...

The horror that is our military until this one incident. This guy isn't the first to be treated this way... but where have we been? From the military perspective, and mine to a degree, he signed up for this, he vowed to follow the rules, he was told what the consequences of breaking rules would be, and he chose to break them anyway.

I really hate killing, and I really hate that the military forces people to kill other people. But mostly I hate hypocrisy, and I find it hypocritical that we bray on and on about this one perceived injustice and have ignored the killing forever.

[mrarundale]

21. responded to wrong post, ignore..eom

[SlimJimmy]

31. I agree and have been trying to get folks to see this. PFC Manning knew

exactly what would happen if he revealed classified information in contravention of the oath he swore and the security documents he signed when he enlisted, and then when he entered the intelligence community. This is not really a case of "whistle blowing", it is a criminal case; and one in which he will most likely be on the losing side.

From the military perspective, and mine to a degree, he signed up for this, he vowed to follow the rules, he was told what the consequences of breaking rules would be, and he chose to break them anyway.

[Luminous Animal]

39. We all have ignored the horror that is our military? I'll grant you that since Obama

became president, the horror has been increasingly ignored or explained away with pretzel logic. But, I will not accept that we have ALL ignored the horror that is our military.

[Rex]

40. Who are you talking about?

Not here on DU! We have been talking about this kind of stuff for years now.

No one should be tortured and a Dem administration needs to make sure people can make the distinction between the Ds and Rs. Ds are for democracy and justice - we don't torture. Rs are for torture and will never deliver justice.

We will lose votes if people decide there is no difference in polices.

[siligut]

4. There is no doubt they are making an example of him

And Thank you Anonymous!

[WillyT]

2. K & R !!!

:kick:

[gateley]

5. K&R - Good, but I just wish we could get him to be treated humanely. nt

[Stargazer99]

6. Someone explain to me how a private has access to secrets

Our country is in the process of destroying this young man who should be given a medal of bravery for doing what he is supposed to have done. This country has lost my respect along with the respect of the European countries. The stench of rot in this country is overwhelming. This country under the conservatives has become a living hell for many.

[gateley]

8. I wouldn't expect him to receive a medal for bravery from the

administration -- even though I think he's a hero -- because they were caught with their pants down. I WOULD expect the military and our government to treat one of its service people with the simple civil liberties any of us are entitled to. I understand you essentially waive that right when you join up, but Jesus, they're not even treating him like a human being! It's criminal, it's heartbreaking, it's disgusting and it's just WRONG.

The Republicans ARE destroying this country, but they're not in the WH now. I can't help but think Obama should call in the head military honchos and tell them to knock it off. I don't understand how his conscience allows this treatment of Manning to continue.

[siligut]

9. Maybe in the future, whistle-blowers will protect themselves

It has become obvious that the rules don't matter anymore and we are being paid lip service. In the future, identities need to be kept secret or whistle-blowers need to change their identities. I am not faulting Manning one iota, he believed in what he was doing and believed in his country.

[gateley]

13. ...OT

I. Want. Those. Kitties. :)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Sic 'eml, Anonymous! K&R

[autorank]

10. Excellent post! k*r

This is an amazing standoff. Wonder how Wired Magazine feels now having outed Manning?

[2banon]

12. so, it was Wired Magazine that outed him?

that's a major hit on the credibility they had enjoyed in the past..

[bengalherder]

23. They don't care.

In fact it seems to be a point of pride to them according to commenters on Greenwald's Salon article.

Assange, according to Wired commentary is a meglomanic also, too.

Wired has had it's readership plummet in the last few years and if they think being on the wrong side of the leakwars is going to help them, they are sorely mistaken.

[mod mom]

11. Bookmarking! burnt dinner yesterday trying to catch up. rec'd

[lonestarnot]

34. Damn it!

}( for the dinner! I am the first to admit, I am having a hard time keeping up.

[Tsiyu]

14. Contact info for quantico

Public Affairs Office
Address:
Public Affairs Office
Lejeune Hall, Bldg 3250
MCB Quantico, VA 22134

Phone: [phone]
Fax:[phone]
Quantico Sentry Home

[JuniperLea]

19. The military has their own laws...

And everyone who signs up vows to obey those laws. The laws were broken. Frankly I'm amazed that so many have no clue about the military.

[Tsiyu]

26. The military breaks its own laws here

and mocks the rules of decency in the civilized world

[dotymed]

30. In the military law

it plainly states that you are not allowed to obey a rule that is illegal. Nueremberg...

[SlimJimmy]

36. Releasing classified information is not following an illegal order, it's a criminal act

And is punishable as a court martial may decide.

[dotymed]

38. That is pure B.S.

If you release "classified information", that is classified so that citizens can be lied to about illegal behavior, that is an honest refusal to obey an illegal order. The person should be seen as a hero.

[SlimJimmy]

41. Wrong, not all of the information he released was being held by the US

So it could lie to the people. Not bs at all. He is a criminal in the military's eyes and will be treated accordinngly. He knew what he was doing when he did it.

[Hissyspit]

15. Criminalizing Democracy

[JuniperLea]

17. Wrong...

This is nothing new. It's not new at all. And quite frankly I'm sickened by the outrage over this one tiny incident... when the military has been horrific forever.

That said, stealing classified information and giving it away isn't democracy. We find it wrong when "they" do it, but we support our side when we do it. I find that hypocritical.

I hate war, I hate the military, I hate killing... I've kept my mouth shut on this issue so far, but dammit I hate our hypocrisy and the blind eye we turned toward the military until now.

[Hissyspit]

27. So you are arguing we should, in this case, continue to turn a blind eye?

???

Or is it that this case makes the Obama administration's doubletalk on whistleblowers hypocritical? Anything that makes the Obama administration conceivably look bad must be attacked, whether it has it coming or not?

[dotymed]

29. What about Valerie Plame?

To me the problem lies mainly on the Justice Department, which apparently has no interest in Justice.
The same can be said for 100's of incidents during "W's" reign. Our new, change you can believe in" President decided we could not "look back."
In order to move forward, we must look back (it's called history), and we were supposed to get a transparent government so that looking at the present would be easy and informative.
We have SCOTUS "Judges" who routinely preside over cases that obviously are a conflict of interest on their part. Then and now. The same august body does nothing when a member is caught lying on his tax information.
The only people (federally at least) that are prosecuted are the ones that are not controversial to TPTB. Manning, if guilty(?) is, IMO and historically, a hero. People are SUPPOSED to disobey orders that are contrary to the public (and private) good. Instead of prosecuting war and financial criminals that make up TPTB, they are allowed to continue undermining our Democracy(?).
Obviously, on the "federal Justice" level we need a thorough house cleaning. The accused (or should be accused) need to go through the Grand Jury process made up of impartial citizens.
Currently, America is (one step?) away from being a "Banana Republic." We have the right to know about the processes happening by the very people we employ, especially when it comes to their job performance.
The Nuremberg Trials made this very clear. At this point, we are accessories to the myriad crimes committed by our government, past and present. As a member of what was once the "Democratic Party" and as a U.S. citizen, I have the absolute right to examine the workings of my government.

[JuniperLea]

16. I think it's criminal that we have all ignored...

The military and the whole "GI" government issue. One of my WWII Vet great uncles used to say that when you join the military, all they let you have of yourself is your soul because they own your ass. My uncles spoke often of the horrible things they were made to do, because they were GI... bath in the surf with and sleep in trenches with dead bodies is the first story that comes to mind. Sticking to a dark, dank, hole in the ground on orders was like solitary confinement to them. Being forced to kill other human beings was the worst of it all.

I really find it disgusting the outrage over this, when the military is despicable at it's core and has always been so. Killing is wrong, and making one man or woman kill another is the epitome of torture. But we all chose to ignore that until this one incident came to light.

This man joined the service and became GI. He had no civil rights... no more than his rifle did, his government issue rifle was to be treated better than any living soldier. What he did was against the rules. He signed up for the rules, and he broke them, and surely it was no surprise what his punishment would be. He asked for it. He was taught all about the rules in his earliest training, and he was told what the punishment was.

I have far less pity for this man than I do for everyone who conveniently forgot about the atrocities of war and military life until this story broke. Shame the hell on us.

[Hissyspit]

20. Who in the world are you talking to?

Most on this board have not ignored these issues.

[walldude]

37. I don't get you...

You write about the horror and disgust you have with the military. You write about the horrible things they do to our own soldiers. Not to mention what they do to the "enemy". You talk about how they treat equipment better than they treat human beings.

And then you defend them when someone attempts to expose these people for what they are. The fact is if people like Manning don't come forward then the military will continue doing exactly what you describe.

And if you think that the people defending Bradley Manning have been conveniently forgot about the atrocities of war and military life you are sadly mistaken.

I have 3 folded flags on my mantel reminding me every day just what the military stands for, and it ain't "Freedom".

[mrarundale]

22. In Q Tel invests in Palantir, and IN Q Tel is CIA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel


Also I did a search for the "Anonymous" slogan to see if I could find any obscure information and I came up with this scary web site. If it's the same then I don't have a very good feeling about "Anonymous". If it's not; then someone should tell "Anonymous" that that someone is posing as them, possibly to discredit them.

http://killtownsecretarchive.blogspot.com/


They have the same phrase about half way down on the right side:
We are anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.

[bengalherder]

24. Anonymous can be anyone.

If you want sunshine and lollipops, they may not be your cup of tea, but if you have an open mind, real live anonymii reside on a site called 'Why We Protest' also known as WWP, which is dedicated to projects concerning scientology and human rights/free speech. There are articles about Manning there.

If you go wallowing around in 'Killtown' to find scary people who claim to be anons, go for it. But anonymous is much more than some guy's dumb blogsite. Real research would behoove you before passing judgement. Unless of course you are into fear and are enjoying passing it around...

PS My interactions with anonymous have been quite pleasant. They have a great sense of humor and like kitties very much...

[kpete]

28. oh boy,

kitties...

peace, kpete

[mrarundale]

32. It looks like infiltrated bullshit to me

after some of my "fake" research....

[mrarundale]

33. It is mainstream and juvenile

That is what my "fake" research found

[Oilwellian]

25. You can't judge Anonymous by this one member

He is but one of thousands from all over the world. I find them to be politically astute and they have a great sense of humor. Instead of researching their slogan, check out their website.

http://anonops.ru/

[upi402]

35. They attack Manning but take BushCo and banksters off the table?

I think many people would like a group who has Manning's back in light of a completely lost system of justice - and that extends to the Supreme Court obviously.