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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 05:41 PM
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50,000 miles between oil changes, seeing is believing, Coates Engine Valve Train
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 05:52 PM by HysteryDiagnosis
I hope this technology is both durable and in our future vehicles... potentially 50,000 miles between oil changes, most likely more.

www.Coatesengine.com



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 06:42 PM
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1. There's one HUGE advantage to this kind of a valve train...
On an overhead cam "interference" engine, if the thing driving the camshaft breaks--this is usually a timing belt, unless you've got something like a Mercedes, a Saab pr a Porsche, all of which have timing chains--you're going to wind up bending valve stems, fucking up your head and, probably, putting holes in a few pistons. There are only three alternatives. One is to create a non-interference engine like Toyota does, but you don't make as much power as you could. The second is to use pneumatic valve actuators like they do on Formula 1 cars, but a Formula 1 cylinder head is worth more than your whole car. The third is something like Mr. Coates' rotary valve engine.

If they can work out any issues with things like not oiling the valvetrain, figure on seeing this industrywide in 10 years because people don't like to replace their engines if a $25 part breaks.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:11 PM
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2. Higher compression rates.... ridiculous oil change intervals.... this tech could
be exactly what the naturopath ordered.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:14 PM
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3. the ford overhead cam engines like I have in my f150 or our explorer
use chains and according to the manual they don't require any maintenance for the life of the engine. We have 150,000 miles on one and 132,000 miles on the other one. I know what you're talking about with the belts though as if you had an interference engine and the belt broke you were buying a new engine, junking the car or whatever so it is always smart to change the belt on a regular interval. Anything over 60,000 miles and you were taking a chance.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:50 PM
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9. Be very careful with those chains
Mercedes, Saab and Porsche all were led to believe they could install timing chains and never worry about breakage. Overhead cam Oldsmobiles are the same way--and if you google "name of car" + "timing chain breakage" you will get a LOT of tales of woe. The problem is, the timing chain stretches, which chains all do. On something like a small-block Chevy, which has pushrods, you probably won't ever break a chain. V-8 Fords shouldn't break their OHC timing chains because those engines are pretty low-stress. If you have a Mercedes or a Saab you pretend it's got a timing belt in it and change them at the same interval.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:21 PM
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4. Yeah yeah yeah. Where are they?
I've been seeing bullshit about those heads for 20 years now. No shit, pre-internet spam about Coates heads. I never see them. Never. No one has a set. No one is racing them. People are making reproduction Ford 427 SOHC heads. Rare? Yes! Wanna see them? Google and you cvan find build threads, dyno reports and race results from actual end users. Coates? Hot air and mystery.

The gearhead community is well aquainted with Coates. No reason to be exited about this at all. Vaporware.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:49 PM
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6. They are on their way to the ME and China.

http://www.coatesengine.com/press_releases.html
Press Releases

2/9/11


COATES INTERNATIONAL, LTD. RECIEVES A POSITIVE RESPONE FROM DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMERITES

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 – For Immediate Release

WALL TOWNSHIP, N.J. – (PR NEWSWIRE) – Coates International, Ltd. (OTCBB: COTE) (the “Company”) is pleased to announce that on February 8th the company received a response from a world business group in Dubai, United Arab Emirates (UAE), which was a positive response, to use the Coates CSRV industrial electric power engine generators in the oil producing countries to create electric power from the utilization of flare off gas that would otherwise be wasted. The Chairman of this group visited the company on January 14, 2011.
Project Plans are being delivered, and on March 8th a team of Coates executives expect to travel to Dubai, UAE to work out the details and inspect the site where the power plant will be set up.

About Coates International, Ltd.: Coates has been developing over a period of more than 15 years a patented spherical rotary valve CSRV Internal Combustion Engine invented by George J. Coates and his son Gregory.

This press release contains forward-looking statements that are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. SEC at http://www.sec.gov
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:46 PM
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7. I guess they have new found suckers internationally.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:25 PM
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5. The founder was arrested in 1994 for selling worthless stock on dubious claims
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 08:32 PM by Statistical
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/23/business/engine-inventor-accused-of-fraud.html

15+ years later not much has changed. Lots of hype, nothing of substance.
I will believe it when I see an independent third party verify it.

Then again they are publicly traded as a penny stock ($0.22 per share) so anyone who thinks Coates is the future of engines can plunk down their money.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=OTC:COTE


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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:49 PM
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8. I have a 1989 chevy astro, no oil change in 12 years. Still runs fine.
Gets low on oil,add more. Not worth the powder to blow it up, but it gets me to work and twice a year I add transmission fluid, brake fluid every few months (slow leak), and add oil 3 times a year.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:02 PM
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10. You're funny. I take it you haven't seen the insides of your engine.
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