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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:37 PM
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Matthew Yglesias: 'Anonymous' "Actively Seeking Vulnerabilities" of Koch-Controlled Firms:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49513260/OpWisconsin



Press Release: #OpWisconsin

Dear Citizens of the United States of America,

It has come to our attention that the brothers, David and Charles Koch--the billionaire owners of Koch Industries--have longattempted to usurp American Democracy. Their actions to undermine the legitimate political process in Wisconsin are thefinal straw. Starting today we fight back.

Koch Industries, and oligarchs like them, have most recently started to manipulate the political agenda in Wisconsin.Governor Walker's union-busting budget plan contains a clause that went nearly un-noticed. This clause would allow the saleof publicly owned utility plants in Wisconsin to private parties (specifically, Koch Industries) at any price, no matter howlow, without a public bidding process. The Koch's have helped to fuel the unrest in Wisconsin and the drive behind the bill toeliminate the collective bargaining power of unions in a bid to gain a monopoly over the state's power supplies.

The Koch brothers have made a science of fabricating 'grassroots' organizations and advertising campaigns to support them inan attempt to sway voters based on their falsehoods. Americans for Prosperity, Club for Growth and Citizens United are justa few of these organizations. In a world where corporate money has become the lifeblood of political influence, the labor unions are one of the few ways citizens have to fight against corporate greed. Anonymous cannot ignore the plight of thecitizen-workers of Wisconsin, or the opportunity to fight for the people in America's broken political system. For these reasons, we feel that the Koch brothers threaten the United States democratic system and, by extension, all freedom-lovingindividuals everywhere. As such, we have no choice but to spread the word of the Koch brothers' political manipulation, their single-minded intent and the insidious truth of their actions in Wisconsin, for all to witness.

Anonymous hears the voice of the downtrodden American people, whose rights and liberties are being systematicallyremoved one by one, even when their own government refuses to listen or worse - is complicit in these attacks. We are actively seeking vulnerabilities, but in the mean time we are calling for all supporters of true Democracy, and Freedom of The People, to boycott all Koch Industries' paper products.

We welcome unions across the globe to join us in this boycott to show that you will not allow big business to dictate your freedom.

U.S. Product Boycott List:

Vanity Fair
Quilted Northern
Angel Soft
Sparkle
Brawny
Mardi Gras
Dixie

European Product Boycott List:
Demak'Up
Kitten Soft
Lotus /
Lotus Soft
Tenderly
Nouvelle Soft
Okay Ktchen Towels
Colhogar
Delica
Inversoft
Tutto

To identify these brands, please look for the following logo anywhere on the packaging

Anonymous. We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:39 PM
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1. If they got into their logistics they would have a field day.
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 01:41 PM by Ellipsis
Can you imagine 200 semis full of toilet paper showing up at the governor's house?
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:46 PM
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5. That would be hysterical
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:05 PM
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7. Have you ever read what Anonymous does to someone that hurts a kitty?
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 02:05 PM by Ikonoklast
Make the news hurting a cat, and Anonymous turns your life into a living Hell.

Just for the lulz.

Imagine what they'll do to Koch holdings...so many vulnerabilities.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:40 AM
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39. Really? This brightens my day
Will you share more information? I tried teh Google, no luck.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #39
40. Google "Kenny Glenn The Animal Abuser"
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 10:10 AM by Ikonoklast
Go to the Encyclopedia Dramatica link.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:20 AM
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42. Thank you
Animal abuse has been taken too lightly for too long.

Thank you, Anonymous
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:10 PM
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12. LOL! :-)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 04:07 PM
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20. "Anonymous Apparently Takes Down Central Bank of Libya & Official Gaddafi Sites"
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 07:01 PM
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28. Well it will be enough to clean up his shit
:evilgrin:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:41 PM
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2. They make a lot of toilet paper.
Asswipes?
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:45 PM
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4. You're right. How Appropriate
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 01:47 PM by Liberalynn
that their main business is based on crap!
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:42 PM
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3. Thanks for posting
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 01:43 PM by Liberalynn
I have purchased Dixie and Mardi Gras before but now that I know who produces them no more.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:40 PM
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14. Their products are inferior to others of similar price anyway. I already didn't buy Koch.
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LumFan Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 10:34 PM
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31. I did not realize...
that my favorite brand of toilet paper, Angel Soft, was made by them. Now it is my ex-favorite brand. I'll even buy that crappy Scott brand before I buy anything from a Koch company. I know I will not buy any Dixie products as I work for the competition in that industry (and I get those products at cost).
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #31
58. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #3
34. Made my husband put back their paper towels in the grocery yesterday.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:59 PM
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6. Marathon Ultra TP from CostCo has the Georgia-Pacific logo too
I just checked. And we buy it by the truckload, but no more, from here on out. Thank you Anonymous!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:27 AM
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32. If I remember correctly, BushCo opened up a lot of forest in washington state
for them when Cheney/Bush took over the country.

Probably got the forests for pennies on the dollar there too.

I think there might be a very long campaign against the kochs here. I think DU will be discussing these boycotts for years to come.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:06 PM
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8. Good


I totally support them in this. I hope they tear them apart.
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nenagh Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:14 PM
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9. What a joy to read, thanks Hissyspit...
and good luck finding cracks in the edifice of Koch brothers.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:18 PM
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10. k&r nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:19 PM
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11. also here:
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:18 PM
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13. Anon boycotting?
I think I'm starting to prefer the old Anonymous, which was only in it for the lulz.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:40 PM
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15. Anonymous can do it all - boycott, for the Lulz
or not.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:41 PM
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16. + 1 nt
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:53 PM
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19. What's not to lulz about boycotting?
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 04:09 PM
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21. Boycotting Dixie Cups is amusing
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 04:51 PM by toddaa
But not really lulz. The sense of humor that was a part of their attacks on Co$ and Gene Simmons seems to have disappeared. I prefer anarchists of the Discordian variety, and Anonymous seems to have become a bit too serious, lately.

The world as we know it is crumbling. I demand LULZ!!!
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DRex Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 06:26 PM
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26. personally, i find the lulz increase...
with the profile/deservingness of the target. HBGary was great. Koch would be even better! Funnier than raiding the habbo hotel, and definitely more worth the time & effort.

From the asshole of the internet right into the lives of tycoons & billionaires. Lulz!
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 03:52 AM
Response to Reply #21
36. Lend a hand overthrowing a few countries
and suddenly it's all srs bzns.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:24 AM
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43. Overthrowing countries is massive LULZ
Just wish they'd overthrow ours.

Boycotts, on the otherhand, are for losers. They make you sound like Don Wildmon.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:45 PM
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17. recommend
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 03:46 PM
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18. Georgia-Pacific has 8.5+ billion of public debt floating around.
And GP is turning it's focus from non-consumer to consumer products in order to make money and pay off debt. A perfect storm. Unions and affiliated wealthy can buy up GP debt and attempt a strangle hold on the Koch brothers, while every day consumers can boycott every Georgia-Pacific consumer product. And for those wanting to draw more blood, go to the GP website and find out what non-consumer product it sells and put pressure on corporate and institutional users of those products.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 04:15 PM
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22. Please post this as its own thread
We need smart and knowledgeable folks like you putting forth strategy.

:yourock:
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vicarofrevelwood Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 06:00 PM
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23. I'm Not so sure that Charles and David,
Wanted this Kind Of attention. However since they have been tossing stones at us for 30 years, Maybe it's time to remind them their Houses, However guided are made of glass too.
"The only thing that keeps the poor from Murdering the rich in their Beds Is a large Middle class." I Can't remember who said this.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 06:07 PM
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24. K&R
"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality." ~Che Guevara



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djp2 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #24
61. Toilet Paper
It's interesting that Toilet Paper makes up such a large portion of KOCH Industries!!
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rantormusing Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 06:13 PM
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25. This would make my day
Don't forget Reason Magazine, that place has become a cesspool of hatred and class warfare. The kicker, the EIC gets his healthcare from France.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 06:55 PM
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27. Woo-freakin-hoo!
Go Anonymous!!!!

We've got your back! No GP in my house evah :D
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:25 PM
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29. K&R! n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:36 PM
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30. Kayanare.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 01:42 AM
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33. Anonymous on the comment section
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 01:58 AM by Kurovski
was saying a boycott would take down jobs if we didn't buy Koch products, but really, there are other brands of asswipe. America is lousy with all kinds of toilet paper brands. I imagine even if it would destroy Koch's paper business altogether (which it won't, just reduce profits) other companies would increase production and hire more workers.

I know some people have "special needs asses" and feel they need a certain brand to clean their bunger, but really you can get used to other brands. that goes for all the other crap the koch bros make. In fact there is not one paper product on that list this household uses. That list has overpriced horseshit. I'm a poor asshole who can't afford all that overpriced crap. It costs more just because they have to pay for all those awful brain-cracking commercials on the TEEVEE. Not because it's "superior"

Anonymous discussed anonymous' post, but anonymous did not bring up that point as yet.

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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #33
50. Maybe this is the time to suggest an easy-to-install spray bidet
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 11:21 AM by NBachers
Cleaner, healthier, cheaper, no forest destruction, no toilet clogs, easier on the sewer system, common in many parts of the world; a concept who's time has come in the USA- http://www.bluebidet.com/bidet-bb-50.html

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 03:09 PM
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65. I'm gettin' one when I move
I had no idea it was so easy. Thanks, NBachers! I thought you had to have a bowl and the room for it. Those are the only kind I ever saw.

$36? I wonder how much just a couple spends for TP in a month? We spend $8-$10 , and while I use handkercheifs, I use TP 4 an AM blow, and I also shop a "unique" way. So the bidet would pay for itself in 4 months! Most people it would be one or two, I imagine.

Cool! And WAY Tmi. Oh well, it's important.

Also of course, when you eat a lot of vegetable and fiber, low sugar, you really don't usually need a lot.

Excuse me, I have to head to the head now. For real. Thanks again.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:23 AM
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81. Yup- I just brought these into the Home-Care store where I work, in San Francisco
Good price, well built. It took me years of prodding to get them to carry it. Now I hope some people buy them, so we can keep carrying 'em.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:39 AM
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35. K&R More products to boycott, including possibly the biggest global one ... LYCRA®
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 02:41 AM by Turborama
Georgia Pacific Building products

Dense Armor Drywall and Decking
ToughArmor Gypsum board
Georgia pacific Plytanium Plywood
Flexrock
Densglass sheathing
G/P Industrial plasters (some products used by a lot of crafters)-
Agricultural Plaster
Arts & Crafts Plaster
Dental Plaster
General Purpose Plaster
Glass-reinforced Gypsum (GRG)
Industrial Tooling Plaster
Investment Casting Plaster
Medical Plaster
Metal Casting Plaster
Pottery Plaster

FibreStrong Rim board
G/P Lam board
Blue Ribbon OSB Rated Sheathing
Blue Ribbon Sub-floor
DryGuard Enhanced OSB
Nautilus Wall Sheathing
Thermostat OSB Radiant Barrier Sheathing
Broadspan Engineered Wood Products
XJ 85 I-Joists
FireDefender Banded Cores
FireDefender FS
FireDefender Mineral Core
Hardboard and Thin MDF including Auto Hardboard,
Perforated Hardboard and Thin MDF
Wood Fiberboard -
Commercial Roof Fiberboard
Hushboard Sound Deadening Board
Regular Fiberboard Sheathing
Structural Fiberboard Sheathing

Thanks to enhydra lutris for the additional products/brands by INVISTA:

COMFOREL® fiberfill
COOLMAX® fabric
CORDURA® fabric
DACRON® fiber
POLYSHIELD® resin
SOLARMAX® fabric
SOMERELLE® bedding products
STAINMASTER® carpet
SUPPLEX® fabric
TACTEL® fiber
TACTESSE® carpet fiber
TERATE® polyols
TERATHANE® polyether glycol
THERMOLITE® fabric
PHENREZ® resin
POLARGUARD® fiber and
LYCRA® fiber

From this DK campaign started last year: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/8/24/895947/-Boycott-Koch-Products

GD OP about it with some Koch related links here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9018547#9025572
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:01 AM
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37. Lots of construction products on that list
These guys must be a tad miffed at the banksters for snuffing construction activity - you'd think...
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #35
44. Start the rumor, Lycra causes ingrown hairs and vaginal infections
What? It's possible.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:51 AM
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38. Does anyone remember The Onion & "This New Toilet Paper Is So Soft And Absorbent!"
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 06:53 AM by Kurovski
by an amazed customer?


"You probably won't believe me when I tell you that new Cushy™-brand bathroom tissue is the softest, most absorbent bathroom tissue you'll ever try. Heck, I was skeptical at first, too! Even after learning about Cushy's™ specially quilted "Moistu-Weave" inlay, I still thought, "Come on! How much better could one bathroom tissue be than another?" But once you've felt for yourself the heavenly sensation of a folded-up wad of Cushy™ sliding across your excrement-smeared anus, you're sure to agree: Cushy™ is the most luxurious tissue you'll ever wipe your ass with! "

Ever-so-much more, but not for the weak of stomach.


http://www.theonion.com/articles/this-new-toilet-paper-is-so-soft-and-absorbent,10808/
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:56 AM
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46. Lol!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #46
69. Heh
It really rubs adspeak right in adspeak's face.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:20 AM
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41. I was hoping this would happen. We need more people and more ideas
I used to read Vanity Fair for their political exposes...no more. I don't buy any of this other stuff, but am trying to come up with a logo/sticker to put on the supermarket shelves with these products.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:53 AM
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45. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #41
59. Vanity Fair paper napkins, not Vanity Fair magazine!
The Kochs don't do investigative reporting.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 01:47 PM
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63. Too funny! Thanks :) Sorry for my ignorance
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #63
75. That is a funny mistake.
:-) Well, it's paper, right? :D
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:58 AM
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47. Does everyone understand that *was* a crank call from a kohk impersonator?
Kohks may be involved in some way but from the rhetoric you read on here you'd think that really was him talking to walker on the phone.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:42 AM
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51. "May be involved in some way"
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 11:42 AM by Hissyspit
Direct Involvement: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=520499&mesg_id=520499

And Koch industries will benefit from elimination of open bids from state on power plants & related.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:53 PM
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64. More:
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:03 AM
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48. Servicing the Kochs
If the Kochs need police, fire, lights repaired on the streets outside their desert plantation and other city services will Palm Desert's
union members respond? One wonders if they've just hired their own private services....and are they
paying taxes on those services?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:05 AM
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49. good
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Lastactiongyro Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:43 AM
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52. Something the Billionaire Nazis didnt count on
A multipronged attack that is both in their face legal and not so legal and covert.

We need to organize a recall of WALKER, Christie, SCOTT. make them sweat it on all fronts. Petition for Impeachment of SCOTUS.

Anon will go for their jugular in the mean time.
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:11 PM
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53. I am sick
They bought the mill in the town I live in last year.

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:18 PM
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54. K/R
Boycott the Birch-backgrounded bastards into bankruptcy.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:26 PM
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55. Doesn't anonymous know they should wait until the next election and only
then should they attempt to have some small insignificant impact on their society? This all the time activism against the powers who are attempting to drive us all into serfdom is going to make the powers mad.
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obietiger Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:28 PM
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56. Thanks for the list
I made my list from it and will be e-mailing all my friends and telling them about it.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:48 PM
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57. Calling forth badger spirit
Cunning badger of the forest,
Guide me to wisdom, truth and light.
All injustices against me,
Wipe the slate and set them right.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 01:18 PM
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60. A long prison term for them and their ilk.
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cecilfirefox Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 01:26 PM
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62. I'll be honest, I ADORE Anonymous. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:30 PM
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73. Ditto.
Big time. They've got their priorities straight - hacking for GOOD! :headbang:
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 03:11 PM
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66. It would be very interesting to see an HBGary type email exposé
especially one uncovering their political and energy dealings.

I think it's likely these would be similar to Enron in magnitude and that could be actionable.

Sourcewatch already details some instances of gross negligence and crimes for which they have have actually been caught. Given what that record shows about operating methods, there's likely to be many more violations they've committed that haven't been brought to light.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Koch_Industries

Pollution

Koch Industries is also a major polluter. During the 1990s, its faulty pipelines were responsible for more than 300 oil spills in five states, prompting a landmark penalty of $35 million from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). In Minnesota, it was fined an additional $8 million for discharging oil into streams. During the months leading up to the 2000 presidential elections, the company faced even more liability, in the form of a 97-count federal indictment charging it with concealing illegal releases of 91 metric tons of benzene, a known carcinogen, from its refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas. Koch Industries was ranked number 10 on the list of Toxic 100 Air Polluters by the Political Economy Research Institute in March, 2010. <1><2>
In a study released in the spring of 2010, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the United States' top ten air polluters. <15>

Other environmental crimes & convictions
According to an August 30, 2010 article in The New Yorker magazine, "In 1999, a jury found Koch Industries guilty of negligence and malice in the deaths of two Texas teen-agers in an explosion that resulted from a leaky underground butane pipeline. (In 2001, the company paid an undisclosed settlement.) And in the final months of the Clinton Presidency the Justice Department levelled a ninety-seven-count indictment against the company, for covering up the discharge of ninety-one tons of benzene, a carcinogen, from its refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas. The company was liable for three hundred and fifty million dollars in fines, and four Koch employees faced up to thirty-five years in prison. The Koch Petroleum Group eventually pleaded guilty to one criminal charge of covering up environmental violations, including the falsification of documents, and paid a twenty-million-dollar fine. David Uhlmann, a career prosecutor who, at the time, headed the environmental-crimes section at the Justice Department, described the suit as “one of the most significant cases ever brought under the Clean Air Act.”<18>


Much more there.


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 03:52 PM
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67. They are that strangling octopus someone long ago described.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:23 PM
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68. That they areand Walker looks to be a paid-for arm of that octopus
It's past time for that chokehold to be thrown off.

An area where much of this coalesces seems to be in the area of energy:
That is a central part of Koch industries.
It helped provide them the money they used to directly and indirectly (through attack ads) fund Walker.
Walker is now trying to simultaneously weaken or eliminate alternate energy plans, eradicate the means for unions to have a role, and privatize/outsource publicly owned energy plants jobs.

From http://www.jsonline.com/business/116204654.html
Walker proposes selling state-owned power plants
A similar proposal was inserted into the 2005-'07 budget by Republican Rep. Scott Jensen. The plan, vetoed by then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat, would have led to the outsourcing of 271 state government jobs.
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The Doyle administration was moving to replace coal as a fuel source at several sites, including the Charter St. heating plant that serves UW-Madison. That plant would have burned natural gas and biomass instead, but the Walker administration last month pulled the plug on the biomass portion of the project.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:26 PM
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70. Anonymous is really
more of a hentai-type octopus, if you catch my meaning. ;3
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:31 PM
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74. There are different octopi
that is certain. I don't want to confuse one species with another. that would be a mistake, yes.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:50 PM
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80. Oh.
:D You learn something new every day. I just saw a Japanese woodcut from 1814.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:28 PM
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71. And what a deserving target. Their money can't buy everyting, like
peace of cyber-mind. :evilgrin:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:29 PM
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72. Bring them to a grinding halt.
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 05:47 PM
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76. This is great!!! A shot across the bow!
Anonymous has given me hope! Seriously. This is like the new, modern pirate radio...
Articulate, focused, well-presented "Statements", love their logo...the potential is there. Scary to think about the forces, the money that will be brought to bear against them. If they can survive/persevere/evade into summer, the sky's the limit IMO.

This is very exciting! I truly wish there was a way I could help them. Boycotting products? Done.
What else???
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:03 PM
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77. I'm too late to R, but I'm K-ing like a mofo! nt
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luv_mykatz Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:19 PM
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78. KICKING!
Hopefully, right up the Koch's a$$. :evilgrin:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:26 PM
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79. Anonymous has been very busy lately. Just love them. Too late to rec n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 06:29 PM by Catherina
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Johnny Morales Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:44 AM
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82. Today to be a hero taking action you must be anonymous
Long gone are the day when a hero could expect to bask in public adoration for doing something heroic.

Instead our reward is usual endless personal, ad hominem attacks fired from our American Corporate News Establishment (yes ACNE) will seek to bring them down, less than human so that nobody else dare emulate their brave actions.

Ironic that computers the ultimate form of lifeless soulless technology has become the ultimate refuge for the heroes of our day - heroes collectively called "Anonymous."

Heroes, because they take on those no one else would dare take on.

Heroes because they do what they do, because they believe it is right, not for a reward or praise.

While it would be nice if we could know who they are, I am so glad it's basically impossible.

Too many generations have passed since this nation had need of real, true heroes.

We would not recognize, not acknowledge them, because they did not match the Caricature of a hero our American Corp. News Establishment (yes ACNE)has foisted upon the conscious of the American People.

Until the day we as a nation remember real heroes are not always beautiful, glamorous or even easy to get along with types, Anonymous is where we'll find our real heroes.
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