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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:34 PM
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Why is this revolution coming from the American heartland.....?
Any thoughts? I realize they have labor troubles but so does the rest of the country.

I am amazed, pleasantly of course. Revolutions should start in big population centers like Tunis and Cairo.......

We are seeing this coming from America's flatland. They are quiet people.

Or they used to be. So, why....?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:36 PM
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1. Because that's where the collective bargaining issue came up
:shrug:
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:37 PM
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2. Could be their long history of unionization.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:37 PM
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Wisconsin is traditionally a heavy union state (proximity to Chicago was key to this I think) -
just happened that this whack-job governor made the first move. It's not like others aren't ready to try it elsewhere.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:37 PM
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3. It's the land of new Republican Govs and what's left of the unions?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:42 PM
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4. Don't know if it has anything to do with them being the 7th best educated
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:44 PM
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5. Because they have heart !
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:44 PM
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6. Check out Wisconsin's history.
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/diary/7225/progressivism-and-the-wisconsin-idea

In Wisconsin, La Follette developed the techniques and ideas that made him a nationwide symbol of Progressive reform and made the state an emblem of progressive experimentation. The Wisconsin Idea, as it came to be called, was that efficient government required control of institutions by the voters rather than special interests, and that the involvement of specialists in law, economics, and social and natural sciences would produce the most effective government.

Faculty from the University of Wisconsin, therefore, played a significant part in Progressive reform efforts, helping legislators draft laws and serving as experts on governmental commissions. While advocating for more scientific and efficient government, many of these specialists were equally persistent in their efforts to expand educational opportunities. University President Charles Van Hise, for example, sought to extend the services of the University throughout the state by means of a new Extension Division. The state's Legislative Reference Library, led by Charles McCarthy, was a similar product of the impulse toward educational opportunity and access. Created in 1901, the Legislative Reference Bureau (or LRB, as it came to be known) assisted legislators in their search for facts on which to which to base improved laws. Providing legislators with fast service from trained research talent, McCarthy's LRB added a bill-drafting service in 1907 that was emulated in countries around the globe.

Although he was widely associated with the Progressive Movement, by no means were all of Wisconsin's progressive achievements the work of La Follette himself. Wisconsin's Progressive movement began as a small faction within the Republican Party that grew in strength by drawing support from a variety of constituencies. There were even factions within factions, each with leaders who were influential in enlisting different groups of citizens to Progressive causes. The complex program associated with Wisconsin progressive reform therefore required the efforts and support of many politicians and interest groups. Germans and organized labor, who had not supported the Progressive movement in its early years, became important later as the composition of the movement changed.

What did the Progressive Movement accomplish in Wisconsin? During James Davidson's terms as governor, from 1906 to 1911, considerable progressive legislation was enacted, including laws proving for state control of corporation stock issues, an extension of the power of the railroad commission to regulate transportation, a fixing of railroad fares, and stricter regulation of insurance companies. The most important and influential progressive legislation, however, was passed during the next (1911) session, under the governorship of Francis McGovern. The 1911 legislature created the nation's first effective workers' compensation program to protect people injured on the job. It passed laws to regulate factory safety, encouraged the formation of cooperatives, established a state income tax, formed a state life insurance fund, limited working hours for women and children, and passed forest and waterpower conservation acts.

While La Follette was the most powerful Progressive political leader in Wisconsin, he was never able to gain complete control over the state's Republican Party or even Wisconsin Progressives. The opening decades of the 20th century were a time of contentious political strife and debate, and not everyone agreed about the goals and strategies of the Progressive program. Progressivism appealed to voters who favored orderly change, rather than a fundamental shift in the economic and social order. Many of the reforms were moderate and thus acceptable to a large number of people who might not otherwise have supported the movement, such as businessmen. Other Wisconsin citizens viewed Progressive reforms as excessive state interference, while many others wanted more sweeping changes such as those advocated by the Socialist Party.

By the 1930s, when depression and unemployment dominated American public life, the assumptions of the Wisconsin Progressives had penetrated deeply into national politics. Much of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal legislation was drafted by Wisconsin citizens, such as Edwin Witte (author of the 1935 Social Security act), who had been trained by Progressive Wisconsin economics professor John R. Commons. In fact, the momentum of La Follette and his allies rippled down through the decades into John Kennedy's "New Frontier" and Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" programs.
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:07 PM
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13. Thanks for this!
I was just going to post something similar!
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:10 PM
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15. The Progressive Magazine is also in Madison
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 09:12 PM by robdogbucky
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:49 PM
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7. Because the RW already ruled in the South.
Hasn't made it in the Northeast and Pacific Coast.

So in the Midwest both managed to get enough RW nutcases in governorships and legislatures and had more liberal legal set-ups to attack. But that meant that there were more in the Midwest who suddenly saw their lives being taken away by that attack, and now they're striking back.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:54 PM
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8. My roots are midwest (Missouri and Oklahoma)...
Generally a tough, no-nonsense kind of folk. I don't agree with them very often, but if my house was burning down I'd trade three fellow Oregonians for one Missourian any day.

You can hate what most of them believe (I do). You can mock their food, clothing, music.

But if you want somebody steadfast at your side, no matter what, look to the Midwest. If you want someone who will do what they believe is the right thing, even if it hurts, look to the Midwest.

THAT'S why it's coming from the midwest.

And if there are any Missouri Foster's or Walden's out there, I love ya, and I'm glad I came from the same roots.

:toast:
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:55 PM
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9. There is no American heartland....
...to call someplace that requires that everything else isn't.

It makes a lie of E pluribus, unum, and I hate it.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 08:35 PM
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14. Usually, "heartland" seems to be used as a euphemism for
"No-Brain" Land.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:58 PM
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10. what revolution?
this is at best an uprising against a moronic right-wing governor
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:39 PM
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16. Wrong. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a revolution........
YET, but it's MUCH more than a single state uprising because the issues that caused the uprising in WI are issues that are happening all over the country to one degree or another. The epicenter is in WI true, but it's a national thing now, excluding only the South. And we're having solidarity rallies even down here. You can bet your ass this is more than a one state thing.

Wait until Walker signs that bill and Wisconsin goes out on a general strike. It will spread to all the midwest and maybe further. This is about POCKETBOOK issues, not social bullshit issues. Pocketbook issues are uniting.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:00 PM
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12. Because it is the heartland of the labor unions, if they can break
the unions there the rest of the country will fall.
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