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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:17 AM Original message |
I've noticed something about people in our jails. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. Except for wall street the consequence isn't theirs to bear as they got their share already. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I think ignoring consequences is an important aspect of the behavior on Wall Street. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. If Americans cared about future generations there would be manageable debt |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I'm definitely not arguing with you there. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
2. We really have to be careful of the "voting against their own interests" line |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I know the plural of anecdote isn't data, but.... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. OK, but read what you just said |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Agree with your opinion and want to add |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I guess I define "own interests" perhaps a bit more broadly? |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I like your definition. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. One of the things that highly frustrates me |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. Lack of impulse control |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Nice |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Excellent work. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Problem is |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. One of our basic needs is feeling safe |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. It appears in movies and TV that once you have a record... |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It makes it very difficult, yes. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Rehab in MN has been cut systematically. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Criminal background check is part of most hiring processes |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. In Law School ... many years ago ... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. Felon or sex offender, that's pretty much true. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome... explains a lot..... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Good point |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
10. except that the part of wall street that is unhealthy is quite methodical and planned |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. These are thoughts in progress and no analogy is perfect. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. Great wisdom in your post. We DO suck as a safe holding environment. n/t |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I think that may be a fundamental difference between.... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
19. I disagree in part - there are truly some evil shits in our prisons, but our prisons |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Most of our local jail population qualifies for work/community service release |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Where I was working , we had rapists, kidnappers and many others who |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
20. Problem |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I'm not really talking about personal consequences in terms of weighing the risk... |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I apologize. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Which I've never really understood with those who have children. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. Check out the work of Dr. Ruby Payne. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Thanks! I will definitely check that out. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You're welcome. I look forward to hearing what you think. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. "Hidden Rules of Poverty" was mandatory reading for my teacher training. |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. Thank you for pointing out that those who are suffering... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. people with poor impulse control ARE bad people |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. Feller' told me |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. That's a pretty cynical view of humanity. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. Unmitigated greed does not equal poor impulse control |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. okay |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. America's prison system is a disgrace |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Good idea! |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Go for it! |
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