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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:05 PM
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Any newspaper that does not carry Sen. Tim Carpenter's letter on its FRONT PAGE tomorrow is part of
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 08:12 PM by Faryn Balyncd



....the Faux/ClearChannel/KochBrothers right wing propaganda machine, and should drop the pretense of reporting news.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=492359&mesg_id=492359





As Sen. Carpenter says, these tapes would make Nixon blush.


This is bigger than Watergate.


and far more is now at stake.





:kick:




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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:16 PM
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1. I disagree. This is surely not bigger than Watergate and lord knows
the taped conversation would not make Nixon blush. It's a story but I don't think it's necessarily front page news- and yes, I've listened to the whole conversation.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:30 PM
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2. Amen.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:31 PM
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3. This is New Century Politics, the Fake Acorn Attack
set the stage for this new level of techno tricks.

Nixon was stupid to trap himself with his own tapes.

Walker was stupid to let his suck-up instincts override his caution.

For some people, Walker obviously being stupid is the reason to dump him.

Ha Hah!
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:33 PM
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4. In 1974, the right wing did not control the media, & did not set the subjects of national dialogue..
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 08:36 PM by Faryn Balyncd



With all due respect for your stated position (I will concede that Nixon may have been beyond blushing), if the FIVE points that Sen. Carpenter addressed in his letter are not front page news, what is?

And if we can't control the narrative when a sitting governor at the center of an attempt to crush what is left of the labor movement admits to felonious intent, when can we?







:hi:



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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:39 PM
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5. In the phone call
where walker states: (Yes we considered sending in disruptor's.)
Is priceless.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:22 PM
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6. Here's the letter (for those who don't have time to go thru all those hoops)...
(Stationary of Sen. Tim Carpenter)

February 23, 2011


Dear Governor Walker,

I am informed that a tape recording has been released in which you apparently held an
extensive discussion with someone you believed to be your campaign supporter, David
Koch. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel states that the caller was actually a reporter,
pretending to be David Koch, and it has posted a transcript of the recording. It appears
that you admit the call occurred, and have not contested the authenticity of transcript.

David Koch is the billionaire businessman who reportedly contributed thousands to your
campaign and who the media claims is a key source of funding for shadowy political
groups that spend hundreds of thousands of dollars attacking your political adversaries in
our state.

At a historic moment in our State’s history, brought on by your refusal to compromise
with elected officials regarding the elimination of worker’s rights, you still refuse to talk
with Democratic legislators. However, you apparently have no problem taking a phone
call from “Mr. Koch” and to:

• Discuss your strategy to lay off public workers to seek partisan advantage to pass
your agenda;
• Discuss your plan to lure Democratic legislators to the Capitol on the pretext of
negotiation, but then state that you would never actually negotiate;
• Discuss your plan to use the pretext of negotiation to get a quorum for legislative
fiscal action that Republicans so far have not been able to do;
• Discuss that you considered the “planting” of paid troublemakers into the
peaceful protests at our Capitol; and to
• Give your enthusiastic acceptance to an offer from “Koch” to fly you out on a
vacation to show you a “good time” once you “crush these bastards.” Your
response was “That would be outstanding…” Given that Koch’s businesses could
reap vast rewards with the ‘no bid’ sale of the Wisconsin’s power plants that you
propose in your budget repair bill, this response is severely troubling.

Governor Walker, this tape would make Richard Nixon blush. If the recording and the
items discussed by you are indeed your plans, you have no business being in public office
in our State, and should resign.

Sincerely,
Tim Carpenter
State Senator


http://wispolitics.com/1006/large/110223_Carpenter_letter.pdf
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:44 PM
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11. thank you, Peace Patriot....n/t
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:25 PM
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7. Nixon = the president. Walker = a governor.
NOT bigger than Watergate. Sorry.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:18 PM
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12. That is correct...But in 1974 the RW did not have labor & the middle class on the ropes, & a complic
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 10:29 PM by Faryn Balyncd



...complicit media.


In 1974, we had a series of newspapers that were willing to stand up to a law-breaking president and publish the Watergate papers in a tag team fashion, as one after another was hit with an injunction.


Now we have no network or cable news organization with the guts to counter the RW propaganda machine.


And if we can't control the narrative now that a governor at the center admits felonious intent, when can we?


Is not the middle class now threatened in a way unimaginable in 1974?


I would agree with you that in some way the statement that this is bigger than Watergate may be a stretch.


But what is at stake with regard to our society is perhaps more than what was at stake with Nixon.


The tape is as damning.


But our media, unlike 1974, will not do a damn thing unless without being forced by those in the streets.














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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:30 PM
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8. I love your passion. Thanks. But your Dream will not be fulfilled
Love,
Cindy in Fort Lauderdale
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:37 PM
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9. Hell Yeah!!
Take control of the message, and don't back down.

Nixon would have blushed and peed his pants, then done the last, most honest thing a R president has done in 50 years: Resigned!! Thank Gawd he did, and thank gawd Walker will too. He's as much a crook as Nixon.

So, the question is: Is Walker as honest as Nixon? We'll see
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:41 PM
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10. exactly!
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:04 PM
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13. From what I've seen of him on the tv and read about him,
he could straight-face lie to his own Mama and not blink an eye. The guy has no morales; he's a true blue skunk politician, must have gotten tips from the liar of all times, dark side chaney.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:19 AM
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14. Yep
Walker and Cheney share the same heart beats.
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