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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:26 PM Original message |
Proof that corporate-conservative groups are CONSPIRING against public workers |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. And clearly politicians consider themselves the ruling class, not public workers, |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. their bread is mostly buttered by the monied interests... |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
61. And that's why there was a Boston Tea Party. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Infrastructure. They've spent billions and decades building infrastructure. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. many of these corpo-conservative groups started after Watergate... |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Funny how the national conversation suddenly flipped from "Wall Street screwed us" to "Unions & |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. "sock-puppetting on a national scale" -- wow, that's spot-on! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Works great if you want two sharply divided social classes though, doesn't it? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. few people see that we've already developed a class of "untouchables" |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Don't forget the pre-employment credit check. Don't want to give a job to someone who needs it. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. don't get me started! |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. there isnt even 'seed corn' anymore, Monsanto terminator genes see to that |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. good point! the thing with the honey bees, and corn...it's like bad science fiction |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
37. +1! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. K/R -- and back to actually read this later -- but, the real irony to me |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. socialize the risk, privatize the gain -- it's the basest form of corruption |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Socialized risk, privatized profit. Because it's really all THEIR money, anyway. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. jinx -- you owe me a Koch |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Ack. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. I wish I knew how to fix all this... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
82. In any of those circumstances, we should be moving them out -- !! |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. excellent research, should be put in greatest |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. We are getting this nonsense currently in the state of Maine |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Maine, Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, etc. etc. Pretty coordinated effort. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
85. How about 4 RECALLS and throwing the voting computers into the |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. our new FL gov has proposed raising electric rates on residents in order to lower cost for Biz. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. He's also said that Homeowners insurance rates are too low. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
77. i had to carry Citizens on a house in Satellite Beach...couldn't afford it |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. It's happening in every state. It's no conspiracy; or rather, the entire ruling class |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. It really goes to show you who the real criminals of this country are, doesn't it? |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
18. Coors buys Miller, Buys Governor, Governor threatens state workers... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. eggsactly. it's an OLD game, and it used to be hidden...now they're out in the open |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. oh yeah |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. that's something i don't understand, either -- comes a point where |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 02:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. but they already have control |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
83. "Then what?" .... exactly!!! Especially after you've destroyed the planet ... |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. That it's so out in the open now is what gets me............ |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
84. How long would it take us all to make "capitalism" a dirty word? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. U.S.A., Inc. (nt) |
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Chimichurri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. disparaging remarks about unions has become the Lady Gaga of talking points. It's astonishing just |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. "the Lady Gaga of talking points" -- niiiiiiiice! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Very nice. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. + My household. n/t |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
25. recommend. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
30. k&r |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
31. K&R |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
34. K & R n/t |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
35. Excellent, excellent. K&R. (nt) |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
38. K&R'd |
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6000eliot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
40. Public workers' unions are also a big Democratic power base. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. you'd think there'd be more support from Dems for public workers |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
41. This is not a new conspiracy - capital has always done this against workers. nt |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Seems to be picking up speed, though, eh? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yes, especially under a democratic administration. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
76. Meet the new deal. Nothing like the New Deal. |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
43. It is just like George Carlin said, |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. bada bing! |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
45. And modifications of pension plans like Criminal Gov. Scott is planning here in FL |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. at least Scott is getting pushback -- he's doing himself no favors, though |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
47. Ran but one name on that list through the Muckety. Oy. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Just FYI: Dubya's sister is a Koch, but it's not THOSE Kochs. |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
48. Here in Michigan DEMOCRATIC party leaders are talking about |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. yes, that's the problem with these *carpet meme bombs* |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
86. These destructive policies come from the right -- |
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young_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
49. I wonder if "the machine" told Bush/Cheney not to fund the Iraq war? |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
50. Even libararies have been coming under fire lately. |
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Reader Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
51. Can we use this to put all the teacher-bashing to rest? |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
52. This must be the glorious new reality Karl Rove helped create |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
53. Could we compile a list of the products made by these officious conservative |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. it might be easier to list what they don't make -- CSA's -- join one today!! |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
54. Shouldn't this be of an immediate understanding? |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. Here in WI, The Club for Growth was airing radio ads within hours of Gov Walker's announcement |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. good point -- question, is there any sense from WI GOP'ers that Walker is going too far? |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I received an e-mail this morning from an organizer that said... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. yes, i asked b/c we've got a similar situation here in FL, and the GOP is having |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R. nt |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. Greedy fucking republicans! |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
66. Thanks, Great info! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. yes, and it's getting to the point where no one believes big media anymore |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. And the sooner, the better. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
72. anyone who has doubts about this is living on a totally different place of reality than the rest of |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
74. I simply can't repeat it enough--EVERYONE should read "The Republican Noise Machine." |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Brock's work is priceless. Check out the Commonweal stuff too! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
79. Conspiracy is the exact word. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. thank you -- i think so too. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
81. K&R Kick Kick Kick |
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