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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:02 PM
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GOProud member: " I don't really like gay people"
I call people like this guy GINOS...."gay in name only". Or another term...self-haters.


Ebone Bell of Metro Weekly made the rounds at a recent nighttime GOProud event at the CPAC conference where she interviewed members of the conservative group, such as 22-year-old college student Matt Hissey. Aside from declaring his dislike for gay people, Hissey believes that only "straight-acting" gay men are "normal."

"I don't really like gay people that much. Gay people frustrate me, the stereotypical gay people, it frustrates me...someone who puts on a total act. I understand that some guys are feminine, which is fine. But some guys, at some point, are normal, straight-acting, whatever and the next minute they're jumping up and down. It just frustrates me. The whole conservative thing is just be yourself, be an individual and just don't be someone you're not. If someone does or does not accept you, that's fine but don't change who you are to look different to others."

Hissey also wants Sarah Palin to run for president in 2012 because she reminds him of his mom.

http://www.towleroad.com/2011/02/goproud-member-i-dont-really-like-gay-people.html
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:14 PM
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1. Member of GOProud dislikes gay people = Redundant x 1000 - nt
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:21 PM
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2. Gee a self-loathing gay guy in the GOP
What are the odds?
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:22 PM
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3. Conseratives who want me to be myself, LOL n/t
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:38 PM
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4. um, wow - just wow!
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Zufash Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:47 PM
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5. Be yourself, but don't be gay ... what?
"The whole conservative thing is just be yourself, be an individual and just don't be someone you're not."

LOL! Epic comment!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:52 PM
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6. I'm not gay, but I really don't like republicans....nt
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:56 PM
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7. A Matt Hissey Fit
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:06 PM
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8. Conservatives only want you to be yourself...
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 02:07 PM by Lucian
if you're rich, straight, and white.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:11 PM
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9. This poor kid is so confused, I think he is drinking too much Kool-aid.
I often think that the GOP is a cult.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:12 PM
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10. Like chickens for Colonel Sanders.
It makes no sense.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:14 PM
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11. I don't know. I don't get the Gay GOP thing, since I don't get the GOP thing, but you know I
understand why stereotypes frustrate people.
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A Nonny Ms Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:09 PM
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12. only "straight-acting" gay men are "normal."
Because being "normal" is 'being an individual'; it's simple GOP logic!

Don't forget those lesbians! Why, we butches are all truly, underneath, deeply feminine women who love to take care of the house, have lots of babies, collect recipes, cook, clean and serve their, uh, '(wo)man'!
Yes, yes, all this chino-wearing is an act!

I've really gotta get a perm, forego comfortable attire and wear crinolines and stilettos, spackle on the make-up, learn to giggle and, at the apex, become a born-again Suzy Homemaker
When I become so 'individualistic' and 'normal', no longer a gay stereotype, my own girlfriend will love me even more

But perhaps since the girl she fell in love with is soft butch-ish, what if she's abnormal too? Uh-oh!

Perhaps then, since it's God's Own Party and they're always right, even teh GOP Gayz
both of us, we two lesbian abberrations, may even become so "normal" that we'll feel an automatic desire for men

just as God intended!


Aw hell, I'm sold!
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:18 PM
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13. The whole individual argument is bullshit. Hell we're all individuals. These people are brainwashed.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:48 PM
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14. I think the feelings are mutual
Gay people really don't like log cabiners.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:53 PM
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15. What an ass.
Is the irony lost on him? Most of the folks at that conference don't think he's "normal".
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:59 PM
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16. WARNING: Republicans can do for gayness what they did for governance!
They can screw anything up!

--imm
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 11:04 PM
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17. The Conservative thing is "be yourself"? lol.
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 11:04 PM by Marr
Right-- so long as "yourself" is straight, caucasian, and Christian. They'll tolerate members of any demographic who are willing to behave like the above in terms of speech, dress, and interests.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:10 AM
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18. He should take his own damn advice!
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 12:11 AM by Behind the Aegis
"If someone does or does not accept you, that's fine but don't change who you are to look different to others.""

And in the "G-d makes a funny" catagory...Hissey? REALLY?! :rofl:

On edit: On a serious note, again, I have seen this attitude from the left, as well. Self-loathing is very sad.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 01:09 AM
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19. A weird statement by a gay man. Maybe he means the overtly, effiminate...
type of gay men...you know, the ones with the big hand gestures, effiminate stances, a slight lisp in the speech. I've had a couple of gay male friends tell me the same thing. One told me that's an affectation...being gay doesn't give you a lisp or cause you to stand "like a girl." Anyway, he disliked that.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 01:48 AM
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20. I always just assumed that most of the gay people
like that were already fairly effeminate and it was just the way they liked to be and it helped them fit into that culture. I could be wrong tho, I don't claim to be an expert.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:17 AM
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21. yes, they are already that way, there are straight guys who are that way also
people do think they are gay just based on the stereotype and are surprised to hear they are married or dating women.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:34 AM
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23. ok, i just saw the video of this interview and that guy fits the effiminate stereotype
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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:47 AM
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24. I'm a gay man who has the "lisp"
It's something I worked very hard on to hide when I was in school, and I still try to hide it when I'm around strangers or other people I'm not comfortable with. It's not an affectation, at least in my case.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:24 AM
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27. I'm one of those guys who could put a lisp in sign language.
I mean, I can "act" straight, but I don't want to. It's not who I am.
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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 04:24 PM
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31. My point being, it's not exaggerated
I firmly believe that many gay "mannerisms" are genetic. Straight men/women can have them too of course, but I think whatever genetically causes homosexuality also causes things such as the lisp.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 04:53 PM
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32. or that they are probably more out, and people don't assume "manly" gays are gay
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 04:56 PM by JI7
while people just assume if a guy acts a certain way as you describe they are gay even when some are straight.

i know this guy who is gay and he does a lot of work like making furniture, fixing things up and other similar work that is seen as "manly". this lady was interested in him and i told her he was gay and she kept going on about how he doesn't seem gay and how he is manly and how this other guy we know who is gay did appear to be gay but this guy isn't.
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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:07 PM
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33. You're right, it's not cut and dry by any means. But the "gay lisp" is not an affectation
It's something that a very significant portion of the male gay community are born with. Which leads me to suspect that it is genetic.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:25 AM
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22. i use to know a right wing gay guy and i found out his mother was on welfare and she rejected him
when she found out he was gay.

i thought he became that way because he viewed liberals as supporting people like his mother who he viewed as someone bad for hurting him. he viewed all people on welfare as being like his mother.

this guy thought Bush was not right wing enough.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:57 AM
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25. Translation: I want to pretend everybody around me is straight
Unlike other conditions subject to prejudice, being gay is an interior trait not an exterior one. GLBTers can largely let other people assume they are straight simply by living normally, at least from people they interact with on a casual basis. So the operating assumption that "everybody around me is straight unless they're draped in rainbow flags" is both very comforting and very incorrect.

Mustn't upset this guy's comforting delusion, and all that.

People like him seem to get very upset when that viewpoint is altered.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:19 AM
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26. I thought it was "I'm into hot butch guys and don't want any competition"
after seeing the video. Holy Tiaras, this boy gives new meaning to self-loathing
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:35 AM
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28. "straight acting" = passing
He only likes gay people who can pass because then there is no attention drawn to them. It's another form of staying in the closet. I think some gay men who "put on the act" do so because they WANT people to know they're gay because it's important for people to know other gay people. This guy is probably pretty self-loathing and though it's also okay for him to admit to being gay, he probably doesn't want to be.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:40 AM
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29. Gunning for "strangest possible reason to be conservative ever".

If we're to take him at face value...
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jimmie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:07 AM
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30. Hissey is very difficult to follow
his logic is confusing.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:10 PM
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34. "normal, straight-acting, whatever and the next minute they're jumping up and down."
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:11 PM
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35. what a joke
this guy is telling other gays to "act like themselves" by acting how he wants them to act
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