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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 09:11 PM
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Teach for America: 5 Myths That Persist 20 Years On
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2047211,00.html

In 1989, when Wendy Kopp proposed the idea in her senior thesis at Princeton of quickly training outstanding college graduates to teach in high-poverty schools for at least two years, her adviser told her she was "quite evidently deranged." The comment has become legend since Kopp, unfazed, went on to launch Teach For America after she graduated, and on Saturday more than 10,000 of the nonprofit's alumni will gather in Washington to celebrate its 20th anniversary.

Kopp ultimately earned an A on her thesis, but when it comes to learning from her organization's experience, the education field deserves a big, fat F. Over the past two decades, Teach For America (TFA) has grown from a scrappy start-up to a national corps with an annual budget of $212 million and a staff of 1,400. Along the way, it has generated a great deal of research about how to improve the teacher training and selection strategies that are commonly used today. Yet the reaction from the education establishment remains one of intense hostility, which echoes through state capitals, Washington and even the courts, where lawsuits have been filed to curtail the use of TFA teachers. (See 11 education activists to watch during 2011.)

TFA's 20th birthday seems like as good a time as any to unpack the misconceptions put forward by its critics (and by some of its proponents). Here are five of the most common:

1. TFA is just a résumé booster for Ivy League dilettantes who want to become bankers or lawyers. While it's true that TFA got its start recruiting at Ivy League schools, today only two Ivies (Harvard and Cornell) are in the top 10 TFA-teacher producing schools, a list that now includes the universities of Illinois, North Carolina, Texas and Wisconsin. About a third of TFA teachers are people of color. The breakthrough innovation of Kopp's group isn't its ability to recruit smart kids at the most selective schools, but rather its ability to find and train great teachers from a wide variety of schools.

2. The research is mixed about whether TFA teachers are effective in the classroom. Pretty much every article about TFA states the boilerplate assertion that the research about its effectiveness is "mixed" or "inconclusive." Actually, that's only true if you think the best way to consume research is to literally pile all the different studies up and see which pile is higher. Again and again, the most rigorous studies show that TFA's selection process and boot-camp training produce teachers who are as good, and sometimes better, than non-TFA teachers, including those who have been trained in traditional education schools and those who have been teaching for decades. "The weight of the evidence suggests that TFA teachers as a whole are at least as effective as other teachers in the schools they end up in," says University of Washington economist Dan Goldhaber, one of the nation's leading researchers on teacher effectiveness. Another solid indicator? The marketplace. Superintendents and principals, who are on the hook for results, can't get enough TFA teachers.

But it's worth noting that while the TFA corps overall turns in strong results, that doesn't mean all of its teachers can walk on water. Some of them turn out to be total duds. One recent example: when then-schools chancellor Michelle Rhee (herself a TFA alumna) told principals in Washington to get rid of low-performers as part of a budget reduction measure, there were some TFA teachers who got booted as a result. Being better on average doesn't mean universal excellence. (See 10 questions for Wendy Kopp.)

3. TFA teachers don't stay in education long enough to make a difference. Interestingly, TFA's strategy doesn't emphasize making a career out of teaching. The organization hardly discourages it, but believes that transforming America's schools requires committed leaders in a variety of sectors and roles. Fifty-two percent of its alumni remain in teaching after their two-year commitment, and 67% still work fulltime in education in one way or another. That includes 553 principals or school district leaders, 548 school-district and state "Teacher of the Year" winners, and a National Teacher of the Year as well as politicians, nonprofit leaders, foundation officials and consultants. My nonprofit firm, for instance, is full of them — one of my partners helped launch TFA — and remarkably that doesn't make us unusual among our peer organizations.


And, of course, numbers 4 & 5 at the link

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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:05 PM
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1. I like

I like how it's mentioned in the article that the author employs the crap out of TFA grads toward the bottom, so you don't notice until you're full of the article about how unciteful and misleading (propaganda?) it is.

For example, in #2 none of the tests are compared or even featured, but the ones the author qualifies the best say that TFA is tops and that those going into TFA are better teachers than those who have experience and extra training. Even though #5 argues against that point (that TFA offers more training than you think).

Another is the broad assumption (again, I'm picking on #2) that because the bosses of teacher like TFA teachers, then that's enough or anyone. Not because TFA teachers are cheap or anything. They obviously have to be great choices, because the author says so (#1...although, again, nothing is cited except what seems the author's opinion).
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:10 PM
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2. what pure, unadulterated horse bleep
I'll see your outrageous, neo-lib, Gates/Duncan/Roth/Green Dot/Kipp/Walton/Romney propaganda and raise you these:

http://chieforganizer.org/2009/08/18/teach-4-america-union-busters/
New Orleans Reading the New Orleans Times-Picayune this morning was troubling. I had thought about this problem before, but was confronted with too many telling and disturbing ...


http://nyceducator.com/2010/09/ivy-league-union-busters-then-and-now.html
Additionally, in the realm of real world practice we have the union-busting efforts of Teach For America (founded by Princeton grad Wendy Kopp, and recruiting exclusively among ...


http://scholasticadministrator.typepad.com/thisweekineducation/2010/02/duncan-a-poison-valentine-for-teach-for-america.html
It's seemed to me for a while now that Teach For America was, for all its apparent success ... TFA is a union-busting agent. Witness Rhee's work in DC. Plus, TFA increases the ...


http://fwix.com/sac/share/a2e5e6ebdf/president_surges_ahead_with_teacher_union_busting_neoliberal_agenda_with_help_from_the_sacto_mayors_wife
President Surges Ahead With Teacher Union Busting Neoliberal Agenda By: alank Monday ... And as a cultist (Teach For America, New Teacher Project) and true believer she came at a ...

http://oudaily.com/news/2010/mar/12/column-teach-america-not-good-idea-some-graduates-/
Teach for America students take low, entrance-level pay while also receiving a government ... the crushing debt that would therefore allow them to work at such low union-busting wages


.............

plenty more at this link:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=union%20busting%20teach%20for%20america&pc=conduit&form=CONBNT&ptag=A6BEF691E0BE440759AF&conlogo=CT2645238

read the OP; read some of these. make up your own mind, but by all means, don't be afraid to follow in the footsteps of the many DUers who are only too happy to join the ranks of the anti-union movement being furthered by the current admin, which appears to be morphing backwards every day into the preceding administration....a regime which is cheering, I'm sure the 'progress' being made on so many fronts, from education 'reform' to the guttting of programs for Americans most at risk



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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:28 PM
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3. Thank you
:applause:
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:11 AM
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5. Oh yes, your sources aren't biased at all
And for future reference, I wouldn't recommend referencing the New Orleans public school system for anything more than a lesson in abject failure
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:48 AM
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6. The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein
Read it. New Orleans public schools are exhibit A.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:08 AM
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10. I alluded to that, didn't I? you didn't, obviously--merely vomited up
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 12:13 AM by Gabi Hayes
some of the most clearly mendacious twaddle I've seen slapped together in one place at one time

mad hound says it about as well as can be said a few posts down, btw
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:01 PM
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17. Thank you.
:applause: :applause:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:35 PM
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4. I still keep in touch with a TFAer I taught with who left when his 2 years were up
Here is from an email he sent me just this week where we were discussing TFA:

I believe that the program makes a terrible mistake in assuming that high-achieving college students with five weeks of education training can reverse the effects of poverty, poor administration, harmful politics, and every other issue that you and the other teachers in our urban districts face day after day. If anything, that rhetoric assumes that there's something wrong with the teachers who are already there--and that's something I don't believe to be true. I have tremendous respect for the veterans I worked with over the past few years, and I count some of them among my best friends.


This pretty much nails it, AFAIC.

BTW, this TFAer is now in graduate school. He wants to be a teacher who has real training, not the 5 week camp. So he's getting his masters in education and won't apply for teaching jobs until he has completed his degree.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:55 AM
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7. thanks for keeping this honest
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 12:24 PM
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8. You are pushing this, seriously?
Let's look at the piece.

First, it is a Time magazine piece, known for not only be a fairly conservative publication, but also a pretty factless one. Notice that most of it's stats and figures are either unsourced, or from TFA themselves. For instance, "Again and again, the most rigorous studies show that TFA's selection process and boot-camp training produce teachers who are as good, and sometimes better, than non-TFA teachers, including those who have been trained in traditional education schools and those who have been teaching for decades." What studies, why no link to these studies, show us these studies. And why the dismissive tone for those studies that don't show TFA in a glowing light?

Secondly, let's look at the "experts" it refers to. Dan Goldhaber is affiliated with the Urban institute, a conservative, though nominally Democratic think tank. Worse, the article refers to Michelle Rhee, whose personal crusade is to rip the heart out of public education, much like what she did in the DC district, where she was eventually forced out. The fallout from her tenure in DC is still being felt, and many of her claims of progress are being found to be either greatly exaggerated or altogether false. In fact to just get the job in DC she lied on her resume about her time as a TFA teacher, claiming that her students made great progress on tests and other measures of progress, a claim later proven false. Finally, let's look at the author himself, Andrew Rotherman. Not only does he write for Time, but he is Senior Fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute, that DLC think tank dedicated, among other things, to the propagation of charter and private schools.

Finally, the very notion that five weeks of training prepares you for teaching is absolutely absurd. Despite the dismissive tone that TFA advocates use when talking about pedagogical theory, you absolutely need these theoretical underpinnings in order to understand what you're doing, why you're doing it, and how it can and does work. If you don't have these theoretical underpinnings, you're simply flaying around in your classes, unable to effectively teach because you simply don't know how to. Let me give you an example, Gardener's Theory of Multiple Intelligences. This basically states that people's learning is oriented on one or more ways of thought, such as verbal intelligence, visual/spatial, kinesthetic, etc. The point is to align your teaching towards those intelligences that your students excel at in order to more effectively reach and teach them. This works, there are decades of evidence backing this up. But since TFA doesn't teach these theoretical underpinnings, their graduates don't use this tool, thus, they are ineffective. Repeat this time after time, theory after theoretical background, and the result are TFA graduates who are approaching teaching without the necessary tools needed to effectively reach their students.

Furthermore, as any teacher will tell you, despite all your preparation, your practicums, your lessons on classroom management, nothing really prepares you for your first teaching experience. But, despite the feeling that you've been pushed into a deep lake without a life jacket, your education, your practicum experience, your theoretical background, all of this combines to buoy you back to the surface, enabling you to overcome being overwhelmed, and become an effective teacher. You start making connections between theory and practice, you realize that you have a pretty effective bag of tools for classroom management, you have a ream of lesson plans from your many, many hours of classes that you can now draw upon. These are all things that TFA graduates simply don't have. Thus, when they take that plunge into the classroom, they flail around like a drowning person who doesn't know how to swim, and only a lucky few are able to make it back to the surface.

This piece is simply another hit piece put out by corporate media, using corporate experts in order to enable the corporate takeover of our public school systems. This is another hit piece on teachers, teachers unions and the teaching profession. It is designed to try and force our education system into a corporate friendly mold, a mold that does and will do an extreme disservice to our children and children's children. To further the work and propaganda of corporate education is to deprive our children of their best possible chance for a good education. Are there problems in education that need to be addressed, certainly. But TFA is not the answer to those problem, it simply layers another set of problems on top of those that are already in the field.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:59 PM
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9. + 10 gazillion
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:22 AM
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12. +100
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 01:38 AM
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13. Minor correction: Urban Institute is neither conservative nor nominally Democratic.
It was founded at the request of Lyndon Johnson but it is one of the most respected nonpartisan, independent policy research organization in the country.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 01:44 AM
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14. Looking at its funders & board, i'd call it neo-lib\/harvard
e.g. judy woodruff & robert solow on the board, funders = the rockefeller & similar mainline foundations.

robert reischauer is pushing austerity, & so is the urban institute:

Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (Video / Testimony)
Rudolph G. Penner, Robert D. Reischauer

Urban Institute President Robert Reischauer and Institute Fellow Rudolph Penner testify before the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. Penner contends that stabilizing the national budget will require sweeping policy changes Americans are not used to, but offers four packages of reform options that can be used to achieve fiscal stability. Reischauer advises, "First, don't waste time looking for silver bullets or new approaches that hold out the promise of painless sacrifice. There are none to be found." Instead, he recommends mining wisdom from government agencies and think tanks to forge a long-term plan.

http://www.urban.org/expert.cfm?ID=RobertDReischauer
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:55 PM
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15. I worked with Urban on joint projects and also had many colleagues with Urban on the C.V.
It's a true think tank with policies designed to keep the research honest.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:54 AM
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25. not dissing your experience, just saying: from their papers they appear to be pushing austerity.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 03:54 PM
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19. Look at the people it has supported,
The research it has supported, the people that have and do serve on its board. It is, at best, a moderately conservative organization.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:07 PM
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21. I know some of the "people they have." The institute is not partisan.
I'm sure there are conservatives who work for them just as sure as I am that there are liberals (I know quite a few of the latter,) but the research needs to pass standards for independent research. This is my profession and Urban is both collaborator and competitor. It's one of the best at honest, nonpartisan research.

Urban does support research that flies in the face of left-leaning wisdom and I don't always agree with it. There are some domains where economists' measurements of success are IMHO hollow and I consider teacher effectiveness to be one of those. Better to have educators and sociologists on that measure.


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:10 PM
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22. Well then we will have to agree to disagree on this one,
UI not only flies in the face of left leaning wisdom at times, but also in the face of fact. But as I said, we'll have to agree to disagree and move on from there.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:37 PM
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23. No, we can agree that I speak from experience with this group and you apparently don't .
I'm surprised that you are offering that weaselly "agree to disagree" dismissal. It's unlike you.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:40 PM
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24. And you assume that you're the only one in this discussion who has experience with this group
Ass u me:shrug:

No, I really don't want to get into this with you, because this post isn't about the UI. Perhaps at a later point, in a different, more appropriate thread.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 03:16 PM
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18. No, I'm not "pushing this"
What I'm pushing is a discussion. I see frequent posts that state that the status quo is just fine, and any attempt to change it is an attack on unions - with rarely a mention of the effect on the students, interestingly enough. I don't think TFA is the panacea for all that ails education in our nation. I also don't think our current education model is working. We don't need to prepare everyone for college. A large percentage of students would do better in a trade school - plumbing, electrician, carpentry, HVAC, etc. Our current education system is a one-size-fits-all clusterf**k, and we need to discuss both the good and the bad openly and honestly.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 04:13 PM
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20. If you're not "push this", if all you're wanting to is "pushing a discussion",
Then why post such a blatantly biased hit piece to begin that discussion? You say that you "see frequent posts that state that the status quo is just fine", I rarely see those. Most people, both inside and outside of education are unhappy with what is going on with education. But it is the people, virtually all of whom are not trained educators, who are pushing these corporatized solutions, ones that blame, blame, blame the teachers that are the problem.

TFA is far, far, from being a panacea for any or all ills. In fact, it is part of the problem.

I respect that you don't like what is currently going on in education, neither do I, so here is novel idea. Instead of implementing crackpot theory after crackpot theory proposed by non-educators in power, let's try what the teachers have been pushing for decades. First, fully fund each and every single school: It is a sin and a shame that there are schools using ten year old textbooks and teachers have to buy supplies for students. Second, nick a page from the two best school systems in the world, Japan and Finland. That is to give teachers the same sort of societal respect and pay that we accord to doctors and lawyers. Teachers in this country are dismissed as mere caretakers, babysitters, and are paid accordingly. What bright young college student would take a look at their student debt, and then enter a profession where their starting pay is less than thirty thousand a year? If we are going to put some actual meaning behind the empty phrase that everybody mouths, that education is one of the most important jobs in our country, then we need to start giving teachers the pay and status commiserate with that statement. Third, stop allowing non-educators to determine education policy in this country. We wouldn't dare dream of telling a doctor how to do a quadruple bypass, so why are we constantly telling teachers how to teach?

Simple solutions, but effective ones. Something that teachers have been pushing for years, but since teachers aren't taken seriously, neither are these propositions. Instead we bumble along from one failed policy to another, allowing anybody and everybody to try any silly notion that comes to our head, completely ignoring the advice of the only experts in the field, teachers and educators.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:18 AM
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11. That's bullshit.
Research on the impact of TFA teachers produces a mixed picture, with results affected
by the experience level of the TFA teachers and the group of teachers with
whom they are compared.

Studies have found that, when the comparison group is
other teachers in the same schools who are less likely to be certified or traditionally
prepared, novice TFA teachers perform equivalently,
and experienced TFA
teachers perform comparably in raising reading scores and a bit better in raising
math scores.

The question for most districts, however, is whether TFA teachers do as well as or
better than credentialed non-TFA teachers with whom school districts aim to staff
their schools. On this question, studies indicate that the students of novice TFA
teachers perform significantly less well in reading and mathematics than those of
credentialed beginning teachers.


Experience has a positive effect for both TFA and non-TFA teachers. Most studies
find that the relatively few TFA teachers who stay long enough to become
fully credentialed (typically after two years) appear to do about as well as other
similarly experienced credentialed teachers in teaching reading; they do as well
as, and sometimes better than, that comparison group in teaching mathematics.
However, since more than 50% of TFA teachers leave after two years, and more
than 80% leave after three years, it is impossible to know whether these more positive
findings for experienced recruits result from additional training and experience
or from attrition of TFA teachers who may be less effective.


http://greatlakescenter.org/docs/Policy_Briefs/Heilig_TeachForAmerica.pdf

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 01:14 PM
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16. Andrew J. Rotherham
Andrew J. Rotherham, who writes the blog Eduwonk, is a co-founder and partner at Bellwether Education, a nonprofit working to improve educational outcomes for low-income students. School of Thought, his education column for TIME.com, appears every Thursday.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2047211,00.html#ixzz1DrbklUyw

Senior PPI fellow:

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=87&subsecID=112&contentID=1103

"Andrew J. Rotherham is a Senior Fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. He is co-founder and co-director of Education Sector, an independent national education policy think tank. Rotherham, who Washingtonian Magazine describes as "at the forefront of U.S. education policy," is also a member of the Virginia Board of Education. In addition, Rotherham writes the award-winning blog Eduwonk.com, which an Education Week study found to be among the most influential information sources in American education.

In 1998, Rotherham launched the 21st Century Schools Project at the Progressive Policy Institute, which he directed until 2005. Under his leadership the center became a leading Washington D.C.-based education policy center and developed public policy strategies to eliminate systemic inequities in American education and to redesign American public education into a system based on universal access to high quality instruction, public sector choice and customization, common academic standards, and accountability for results. The project's ideas have been implemented in national and state education policy. "

Formerly of DFER....anti-public school group.

http://millermps.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/more-on-waiting-for-superman/

"Second, about hedge fund operators and charter schools. This is one of the most important unreported stories around. There are people who have tried to address it, for example, Barbara Miner of Rethinking Schools whose work on the subject I focused on here in this post.

Third, there is a two-pronged attack going on, to delegitimize public schools and to destroy the teachers unions. The two targets are intimately connected. Destroy the teachers unions and there is no meaningful force to stand up for public schools. Simultaneously you deal a crushing blow to the labor movement as a whole, and you weaken a key constituency of the Democratic party. At least some in organized labor understand what is going on, as I noted in this diary

OF course, one must remember that many of the hedge fund operators who are involved in this are nominally Democrats, of the type associated with Democrats for Education Reform. I note someone who was previously very involved with DFER is Andrew Rotherham, now has a blogging gig at Time Magazine. And Mayor Cory Booker of Newark is on the board of DFER. As are hedge fund types, like Whitney Tilson.

Of course, thanks to the lack of regulation, hedge fund managers are rolling in money and able to use that the same way Bill Gates uses his billions – to drive the discussions on public education to favor their positions, although, as Martin notes, when the voters get a say, they reject those positions."
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