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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:39 PM
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Egyptian Revolution Tweets. Day 15, No To Crumbs, Part 8
Egyptian Revolution Tweets. Day 15, No To Crumbs, Part 8

Today's Day 15 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7

Some Mubarak Financial documents DDos'd to dissappear found here

To see Tahrir battlepoints Google Earth + overlay


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4eUV2DAYwM">Try Not To Cry Little One

Please rec if you read these, these get mercilessly unrec'd. Weird.


Please, if you see important news, please xpost in LCoyote's Daily Threads.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:41 PM
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1. Pic Underwater protest
Underwater protest RT @Sabrology مظاهرة تحت الماء http://goo.gl/Uq24b #jan25 #tahrir
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:43 PM
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2. WikiLeaks: Egyptian 'torturers' trained by FBI
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @NubianCzar: RT @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Egyptian 'torturers' trained by FBI http://is.gd/kreaaW
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WikiLeaks: Egyptian 'torturers' trained by FBI
The US provided officers from the Egyptian secret police with training at the FBI, despite allegations that they routinely tortured detainees and suppressed political opposition.


Egyptian state security thanked the US for 'training opportunities' at the FBI academy in Quantico Photo: ALAMY

By Steven Swinford 9:00PM GMT 09 Feb 2011

According to leaked diplomatic cables, the head of the Egyptian state security and investigative service (SSIS) thanked the US for “training opportunities” at the FBI academy in Quantico, Virginia. The SSIS has been repeatedly accused of using violence and brutality to help prop up the regime of President Hosni Mubarak. In April, 2009, the US ambassador in Cairo stated that “Egypt’s police and domestic security services continue to be dogged by persistent, credible allegations of abuse of detainees.

“The Interior Ministry uses SSIS to monitor and sometimes infiltrate the political opposition and civil society. SSIS suppresses political opposition through arrests, harassment and intimidation.”

In October, 2009, “credible” human rights lawyers representing alleged Hizbollah detainees provided details of the techniques employed by the SSIS. The cable states: “The lawyers told us in mid-October that they have compiled accounts from several defendants of GOE torture by electric shocks, sleep deprivation, and stripping them naked for extended periods.

“The lawyers believe the accounts to be credible.”

...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8314475/WikiLeaks-Egyptian-torturers-trained-by-FBI.html
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:45 PM
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3. Fast Company: Al Jazeera to launch Turkish News Channel
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @SultanAlQassemi: Fast Company: Al Jazeera to launch Turkish News Channel http://bit.ly/hvUeXh To be named Al Jazeera Turk
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Al Jazeera, Stymied in U.S., Launching Turkish-Only Channel
BY NEAL UNGERLEIDERToday

Al Jazeera's coverage of the events in Egypt and Tunisia may be receiving acclaim around the world, but American viewers still have a hard time watching the network. However, Turks will soon have an Al Jazeera of their own.



Al Jazeera's coverage of the recent revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia have boosted the network's viewership around the world. And not it's gearing up for its most audacious project since the launch of Al Jazeera English: A new, fully autonomous Turkish-language news channel.

Turkey is not an Arabic-speaking country and the Turkish language is written in the Latin alphabet.

A formal launch date for the new network, named Al Jazeera Turk, has reportedly been scheduled sometime in the coming months. The Qatar-based network just bid US$40 million to buy the Turkish Cine5 station, which is currently bankrupt and under the temporary supervision of Turkey's Savings Deposit Insurance Fund. Prior to bankruptcy, Cine5 was operated as a pay movie channel; founder Erol Aksoy has had high-profile financial problems since the global economic crisis began.

The $40 million bid followed on the heels of an unsuccessful $21 million prior bid by Al Jazeera for the station. Aksoy has said in the Turkish press that he would launch a lawsuit if the Turkish government sold Cine5.

...

http://www.fastcompany.com/welcome.html?destination=http://www.fastcompany.com/1725643/al-jazeera-launching-turkish-channel
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:47 PM
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4. Wyclef Jean To Egypt, convert 4 you, tomorrow morning at 7am on Facebook!!!
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @wyclef: Tomorrow morning 7am on Facebook!!! I will be performing a concert for the ppl of Egypt!! Tune in www.facebook.com/wyclef #egypt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:49 PM
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5. Special love to me!
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 04:54 PM by Catherina
estr4ng3d Abdelrahman
Thanks! lots of love @AmyMarieDC @jgg_bw @Catherina_Guate @jm111t @stevespain @Penny_G @LeslieEspaillat @ozonejl @imstrawman
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http://twitter.com/#!/estr4ng3d/status/35451530693836800

Don't even know what brought that about but :woohoo: Special love back to EGYPT! Always!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:53 PM
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6. Outstanding report from Guardian's @chrismcgreal uncovers army's role in torture
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 04:55 PM by Catherina

hackneylad Jack Shenker
Outstanding report from Guardian's @chrismcgreal uncovers army's role in torture of #Egypt activists: http://bit.ly/fB9GSK
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Egypt's army 'involved in detentions and torture'
Military accused by human rights campaigners of targeting hundreds of anti-government protesters

Chris McGreal in Cairo
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 9 February 2011 21.30 GMT


Army officers escort a prisoner away from Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt. The military – accused of involvement in torture – has always claimed to be a neutral force in the conflict. Photograph: Sean Smith for the Guardian

The Egyptian military has secretly detained hundreds and possibly thousands of suspected government opponents since mass protests against President Hosni Mubarak began, and at least some of these detainees have been tortured, according to testimony gathered by the Guardian.

The military has claimed to be neutral, merely keeping anti-Mubarak protesters and loyalists apart. But human rights campaigners say this is clearly no longer the case, accusing the army of involvement in both disappearances and torture – abuses Egyptians have for years associated with the notorious state security intelligence (SSI) but not the army.

The Guardian has spoken to detainees who say they have suffered extensive beatings and other abuses at the hands of the military in what appears to be an organised campaign of intimidation. Human rights groups have documented the use of electric shocks on some of those held by the army.

Egyptian human rights groups say families are desperately searching for missing relatives who have disappeared into army custody. Some of the detainees have been held inside the renowned Museum of Egyptian Antiquities on the edge of Tahrir Square. Those released have given graphic accounts of physical abuse by soldiers who accused them of acting for foreign powers, including Hamas and Israel.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-army-detentions-torture-accused

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:35 AM
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51. No repression w/o TORTURE ...
and imo that's why it's been reintroduced by US GOVERNMENT!!!

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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 04:57 PM
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7. Hosni who?
Egyptian companies run ads in papers today denying connection to Mubarak family #egypt ##an25 15 minutes ago via web
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:01 PM
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8. According to WSJ Gen. Ahmed Ramzy refused orders frm Mubarak and Al-Adly to use live ammo

Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @doditwo: @Zeinobia @GenRain According to Wall St. Journal article Gen. Ahmed Ramzy refused orders frm Mubarak and Al-Adly: http://on.wsj.com/id1PDL
Long post from Deck.ly Just now View on
11 minutes ago

How Cairo, U.S. Were Blindsided by Revolution
FEBRUARY 2, 2011

By CHARLES LEVINSON, MARGARET COKER And JAY SOLOMON

...


Despite fresh inspiration from Tunisia, even the organizers of the demonstrations expected them to come off like so many others—with protesters, far outnumbered by police, quickly driven off, beaten up and arrested. "We went out to protest that day and expected to be arrested in the first 10 minutes, just like usual," said Mr. al-Alimi.

...

Mr. Mubarak's regime was stunned. "No one expected those numbers that showed up to Tahrir square," said Ali Shamseddin, a senior official with the National Democratic Party in Cairo.

In faraway Washington, the demonstrations were only starting to register. Last Tuesday's State of the Union address, delivered the day the protests started, had only a short section on foreign policy. President Barack Obama planned to nod to the democratic movement that swept away the ruler of Tunisia, a place "where the will of the people proved more powerful than the writ of a dictator," the speech read.

...


At 4 p.m., the battles appeared to tip decisively in the protesters' favor. An order came down from Mr. Mubarak to the Minister of Interior, Habib al-Adly to use live ammunition to put down the protests, according to a person familiar with the situation. Mr. al-Adly passed on the order to his top lieutenant, Gen. Ahmed Ramzy—but Mr. Ramzy refused, according to this person.

...


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703445904576118502819408990.html
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:03 PM
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9. Video Police use live ammunition against protesters in Kharga February 9th, 2011
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
New post: #Jan25 Police use live ammunition against protesters in Kharga http://bit.ly/ezGltL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPqUap9z8BU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.presstv.ir/live/ EGYPT EL-KHARGA 100 KILLED OR INJURED IN SOUTH EGYPT 8 FEB 2011
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:06 PM
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10. Chilling and essential reading: Robert Tait witnesses #Egypt torture first-hand
hackneylad Jack Shenker
Chilling and essential reading: Robert Tait witnesses #Egypt torture first-hand, in the Guardian: http://bit.ly/i6YsWE
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28 hours in the dark heart of Egypt's torture machine
A blindfolded Robert Tait could only listen as fellow captives were electrocuted and beaten by Mubarak's security services

Robert Tait
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 9 February 2011 21.30 GMT


Rough justice: Egyptian plainclothes police officers arresting a demonstrator in Cairo. Hundreds of opponents of President Hosni Mubarak have been detained, protesters say. Photograph: Marco Longari/AFP/Getty Images


The sickening, rapid click-click-clicking of the electrocuting device sounded like an angry rattlesnake as it passed within inches of my face. Then came a scream of agony, followed by a pitiful whimpering from the handcuffed, blindfolded victim as the force of the shock propelled him across the floor.

A hail of vicious punches and kicks rained down on the prone bodies next to me, creating loud thumps. The torturers screamed abuse all around me. Only later were their chilling words translated to me by an Arabic-speaking colleague: "In this hotel, there are only two items on the menu for those who don't behave – electrocution and rape."

Cuffed and blindfolded, like my fellow detainees, I lay transfixed. My palms sweated and my heart raced. I felt myself shaking. Would it be my turn next? Or would my outsider status, conferred by holding a British passport, save me? I suspected – hoped – that it would be the latter and, thankfully, it was. But I could never be sure.

I had "disappeared", along with countless Egyptians, inside the bowels of the Mukhabarat, President Hosni Mubarak's vast security-intelligence apparatus and an organisation headed, until recently, by his vice-president and former intelligence chief, Omar Suleiman, the man trusted to negotiate an "orderly transition" to democratic rule.

...

Read the rest http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-torture-machine-mubarak-security
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:41 AM
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52. US/CIA is as much a part of this Egyptian TORTURE machine as Mubarak is ...!!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:10 PM
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11. don't have a problem w\ wearing it, I have a problem w\ owning it when 3.7 mil Egy live below povert
Sherif_Khalil_ Chérif Khalil
@
@Sarah_ElShafie Go to City Stars and see, the cheapest shirt is about 3,000 LE wente tal3a le 11,000 LE, I swear!
20 minutes ago


Zeinobia

RT @Sherif_Khalil_: @kopliverpool @Zeinobia I don't have a problem with wearing it I have a problem with owning it when 3.7 mil Egy live below the poverty line

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:13 PM
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12. The Guardian: Suleiman's 'talks' near-collapse as labour unions join #Egypt unrest
hackneylad Jack Shenker
The Guardian: Suleiman's 'talks' near-collapse as labour unions join #Egypt unrest http://bit.ly/dPhjBM
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Egyptian talks near collapse as unions back protests
Government refuses transition plan as demonstrations are joined by strikes – and vice-president's coup ultimatum raises tensions

Jack Shenker and Chris McGreal Cairo
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 9 February 2011 21.01 GMT


Egyptian employees of service companies owned by the Suez Canal Authority have joined workers across the country in strike action. Photograph: Stringer/EPA

....

Instead, the unrest is spreading as some of the largest demonstrations yet against President Hosni Mubarak were joined by labour strikes across the country, including on the Suez canal, in the city of Alexandria and by public transport workers in Cairo.

...

"The regime is taking a hard line and so negotiations have essentially come to an end," he said. "Suleiman's comments about there being a danger of a coup were shocking to all of us – it was a betrayal of the spirit of negotiations, and is unacceptable.

"The regime's strategy has been just to play for time and stall with negotiations. They don't really want to talk to anyone. At the start of this week they were convinced that the protests were going to fade away."

...

Suleiman warned of "the dark bats of the night emerging to terrorise the people" and said the alternative to negotiations on the government's terms was that "a coup happens". This would mean "uncalculated and hasty steps, including lots of irrationalities".

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-protest-talks-union-mubarak

sarcastic :cry:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:14 PM
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13. Let them try 2 attack #tahrir and hell doors all over #egypt will open, 60 mil will be in streets

SamIDaouD SamI DaouD
Let them try 2 attack #tahrir and hell doors all over #egypt will open, this time we will b not 15 mill but 60 mil ! #jan25
25 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:15 PM
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14. So THIS is why state TV was airing footage of the Nile for days

ysalah Yosra
So THIS is why state TV was airing footage of the Nile for days. http://j.mp/dYKcXD (via @TheSherio)
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:16 PM
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15. i want neither the regime nor the army to hv any kind of control, u hd ur chance for 60 yrs
SamIDaouD SamI DaouD
let me say it out loud, i want neither the regime nor the army to hv any kind of control in post #jan25 era, u hd ur chance for 60 yrs
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:19 PM
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16. "We don't want to deal with Egyptian society with police tools.", Labor Strikes in Egypt Spill Into
blakehounshell Blake Hounshell
Omar Suleiman: "We don't want to deal with Egyptian society with police tools." Uh-huh. abcnews.go.com/International/…
20 minutes ago

Labor Strikes in Egypt Spill Into Broader Unrest
Thousands strike, demanding better wages, in labor outcry that threatens further Egypt unrest
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BY MAGGIE MICHAEL AND TAREK EL-TABLAWY
CAIRO February 9, 2011 (AP)

The labor movement that mushroomed Wednesday could add new momentum to mass demonstrations against President Hosni Mubarak. The protesters in Cairo want Mubarak's ouster, saying his regime is riddled with corruption and Egypt has become a nation of growing poverty.

More than 5,000 workers from a variety of companies, including a ship repair firm, have gone on strike in the port city of Suez. Thousands of others have staged protests on company grounds in the cities of Mahalla, Port Said and Cairo.

The Suez strikes have not affected ship traffic through the Suez Canal.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=12872967




CAIRO (AP) — Egypt's anti-government activists called on supporters Wednesday to expand their demonstrations in defiance of the vice president's warning that protests calling for President Hosni Mubarak's ouster would not be tolerated for much longer.

Vice President Omar Suleiman, who is managing the crisis, raised the prospect of a new crackdown on protesters Tuesday when he told Egyptian newspaper editors there could be a "coup" unless demonstrators agree to enter negotiations. The protesters insist they won't talk before Mubarak steps down, which the president is refusing to do.

...

Suleiman is creating "a disastrous scenario," Samir said. "We are striking and we will protest and we will not negotiate until Mubarak steps down. Whoever wants to threaten us, then let them do so," he added.

For the first time, protesters were calling forcefully Wednesday for labor strikes after Suleiman warned that calls by some protesters for a campaign of civil disobedience are "very dangerous for society and we can't put up with this at all."

...

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=12872967
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:21 PM
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17. Ldrs of Indy Union of Real Estate Tax Authority Employees join the Tahrir Square occupation
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
New post: #egyworkers #Jan25 مسيرة نقابية للتضامن مع الثورة http://bit.ly/hHmTKM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKoh9UxEu9s&feature=player_embedded

Leaders of the independent Union of Real Estate Tax Authority Employees, march from Galaa Street to join the Tahrir Square occupation, in solidarity with the revolution.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:21 PM
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18. soldiers guarding the foreign ministry and state TV are paratroopers
evanchill Evan Hill
For what it's worth, the soldiers guarding the foreign ministry and state TV are paratroopers.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:22 PM
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19. walked by a sign today near Tahrir Square that said "Military Area." Is that where ppl go?
blakehounshell Blake Hounshell
I walked by a makeshift sign today on one of the streets near Tahrir Square that said "Military Area." Wonder if that's where they take ppl.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:25 PM
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20. NASA honors martyred Sally Zahran and put her name on a rocket heading for Mars..
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @Bounz: NASA honors martyred Sally Zahran and put her name on a rocket heading for Mars... #jan25 #egypt http://j.mp/i94VGf
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The world said the young Egyptian Essam Heggy that he got the approval of the agency «NASA» space on request put the name of «Sally Zahran», which cited the youth protests of liberalization on a spacecraft bound for Mars. He said Haggai in a telephone conversation from his office in California, said that there a tradition in the lab «rocket propelled jet» a scientific institutions responsible for the discovery of Mars, NASA's space included the names of citizens of all countries of the world according to the proposal of any U.S. citizen or a staff NASA at the request of the Department «NASA», confirmed that he had made a request to put the name of the martyr in her honor, and his participation as a kind of Egyptian young man outside his home country at this historic juncture to Egypt.

Hajji said in a letter sent to the «Egyptian today» The least that can be provided for the youth of Egypt and the makers revolution, step by writing the name of the martyr Sally Zahran spacecraft destined for Mars to try to honor the martyrs of Egypt of the righteous, and «will be transferred vehicle dreams of Egypt's youth from a narrow land into the spaciousness of the sky », and across the face of the« Egyptian today »- Letter to Matsamy Tahrir Square, entitled« stand in editing .. And rise to the Moon », which he said: What is like to stand in the heart of Tahrir Square and steps to the first man on the moon, both began to dream of a group of young people, to become a reality is history and the world look to the human capacity to challenge the odds, and in fact imposed by the circumstances. She added: today is the millions of young people in the first steps the path of freedom, with the same courage and defiance as he stood «Neil Armstrong» takes a first step on the moon, these young people for over thirty years been subjected to marginalization and alienation, absence and repression, and growing Windows tyranny of the security men who became the role of the Bible is protection of those they call «the sons of the people and pride,» of the public good hungry which I am proud that I belong to him.

Martyr «Sally Zahran» - Mars - NASA

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/%C2%AB%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%C2%BB-%D8%AA%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9-%C2%AB%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%C2%BB-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B6%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AC%D9%87%D8%A9-%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%89-%C2%AB%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AE%C2%BB
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:26 PM
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21. 4000 workers strike at Coke Company in Helwan
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
إضراب عمال شركة الكوك بحلوان http://www.ctuws.com/labour_movements/default.aspx?item=720 Strikes in Helwan #egyworkers #jan25
20 minutes ago

Immediate

Strike Coke Company in Helwan

CTUWS labor in 09/02/2011 : announced today that workers Coke Company in Helwan on strike and gathered more than 4000 workers in front of the company's management to demand higher salaries and installation of temporary employment and payment of incentive for export, and demonstrators in front of a building management company coke shouting against corruption and revive the Revolution Youth , and chanting "Journalism Fein Mazalim coke the most important."

# # # #
http://www.ctuws.com/labour_movements/default.aspx?item=720
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:28 PM
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22. Textile, Steel and Hospital #egyworkers on strike in the Nile Delta
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 05:30 PM by Catherina
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
Textile, Steel and Hospital #egyworkers on strike in the Nile Delta http://www.ctuws.com/labour_movements/default.aspx?item=721 #egyworkers
17 minutes ago

A press release .. Hundreds of workers sit spinning Hometown .. And hospital workers picket Kafr El Zayat year and a strike by workers of National Steel

Press release

Hundreds of workers sit spinning Hometown .. The sit-in workers Kafr El Zayat General Hospital

And a strike by workers of National Steel

CTUWS and labor - February 9, 2011 .. started today morning, hundreds of workers at Mahalla open-ended sit in front of the administration building, demanding the settlement of overdue promotions, confirming that the last committee held for the settlement of the qualifications and promotions were in 2008 .. Confirmed working on the accession of all workers of the company to them after the defeat of pink at three in the afternoon to demand the departure of Fouad Abdel-Alim the company's chairman, recalled after the losses made by the company since taking over in spite of the state to pay the company's debt which was incurred huge annual benefits ..

In the same context, began more than 1500 workers from General Hospital, Kafr El-Zayat sit inside the hospital to demand incentives in arrears, regardless where he began picketing the nursing sector and then joined by two doctors and the rest of the hospital ..

In the governorate of Suez began more than 400 workers of Misr National Steel went on strike to demand higher salaries, stressing that they do not receive any incentives or bonuses for years and the average wage within the company does not exceed 600 pounds .. The company owned by businessman Jamal Garhi.

# # #

http://www.ctuws.com/labour_movements/default.aspx?item=721


Just to reiterate

Per a friend who's as sharp as a tack

Keep your eye on the major manufacturing cities, particularly:

Helwan - Automobile Manufacturing
Salheya - Automobile Manufacturing
Abu Qir - Petrochemicals
Alexandria - Steel
Sadat City - Steel
Suez - Steel
10th of Ramadan City - Steel

also: 6th of October City, Borg El Arab, Badr City, El Obour, Abo Rawash, Shubra al khiema, New Cairo, Mubark City, Mahala, El Amriya.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:30 PM
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23. Getting interview by the Japanese TV. I always love #Japan

Raafatology Raafat- نيويورك
Getting interview by the Japanese TV. I always love #Japan
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:31 PM
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24. More strikes are planned tomorrow. Textile mills in Mahalla will be brought to a complete halt.
Raafatology Raafat- نيويورك
RT"@3arabawy: More strikes are planned tomorrow. Textile mills in Mahalla will be brought to a complete halt. #egyworkers #jan25"
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:32 PM
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25. my brother ahmad saeed mohamed yehia is missing since last thurs, we hv no idea wer on earth he is
occupiedcairo Occupied Cairo
RT @HanaaYehia: my brother ahmad saeed mohamed yehia is missing since last thursday, we hv no idea wer on earth he is
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:32 PM
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26. What this at your mouth Amr Mustafa on Ch.2? crying !!? crying like a baby girl
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 05:33 PM by Catherina
Zeinobia Zeinobia
What this at your mouth Amr Mustafa on Ch.2
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Zeinobia Zeinobia
Amr is crying !!?
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Zeinobia Zeinobia
Amr Mustafa is crying like a baby girl
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Amr Mostafa, Egyptian artist and composer. Just a wild guess that he choose the wrong side of the revolution.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:45 PM
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33. Amr Mustafa speaks again about agendas !!!

Zeinobia Zeinobia
Amr Mustafa speaks again about agendas !!!
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Just for the record, the person making the comment about Amr Mustafa crying like a baby girl is a woman.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:45 PM
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34. Heey Amr Mostafa, Egypt is not Iraq nor Lebanon .. Egypt above all
esraa_ali Esraa Ali
Heey Amr Mostafa, Egypt is not Iraq nor Lebanon .. Egypt above all #jan25
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:34 PM
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27. Via military sources: heavy army deployment on Salam Salem, Autostrade leading to presidential palac
einobia Zeinobia
RT @fouad_marei: Via military sources: heavy army deployment on Salam Salem, Autostrade leading to presidentia… (cont) http://deck.ly/~QL635
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RT @fouad_marei: Via military sources: heavy army deployment on Salam Salem, Autostrade leading to presidential palace in Heliopolis. Reasons unknown. #jan25

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:35 PM
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28. workers' strikes throughout the republic is the missing element needed to succeed in the revolution.

tarekshalaby Tarek Shalaby
The workers' strikes throughout the republic is the missing element needed to succeed in the revolution. Vive la revolution! #jan25
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:36 PM
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29. Another wedding in #Tahrir yesterday,
Raafatology Raafat- نيويورك
RT"@SohaBayoumi: Another wedding in #Tahrir yesterday, Tuesday, Feb 8 http://bit.ly/ek3GjI (via @NadiaE) #Egypt #Jan25"
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:40 PM
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30. Muhammed Ehab Salah 8 yars old the youngest martyr of the revolution killed by the CSF
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 05:40 PM by Catherina
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @shmpOngO: Muhammed Ehab Salah 8 yars old the youngest martyr of the revolution killed by the CSF (v) @G… (cont) http://deck.ly/~TmsoX
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RT @shmpOngO: Muhammed Ehab Salah 8 yars old the youngest martyr of the revolution killed by the CSF (v) @Gemyhood http://twitpic.com/3y3pez #JAN25


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:42 PM
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31. Wael Ghonim I only talked 2 CNN to convey our point of view after mar Soliman speech with ABC

Ghonim Wael Ghonim
I only talked to CNN to convey our point of view after Gen. Omar Soliman speech with ABC News. It was an exception #Jan25
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Earlier Ghonim was refusing all requests by US media, preferring to focus on Arab media instead.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:52 PM
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38. @Ghonim hi Wael been trying to reach for a few days. Will you speak to Al Jazeera English?
AymanM Ayman Mohyeldin
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@Ghonim hi Wael been trying to reach for a few days. Will you speak to Al Jazeera English?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:44 PM
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32. Egypt government silent on death toll from p

3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
Egypt government silent on death toll from protests http://bit.ly/hH52Ih #jan25 #police
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Egypt government silent on death toll from protests (Extra)
Feb 8, 2011, 14:52 GMT

Cairo - The Egyptian government has not released updated information on the number of people killed in the pro-democracy protests, which entered their 15th day on Tuesday.

The latest figure, released nearly a week back by the Health Ministry, puts the toll at 77, which includes deaths of both protesters and security forces.

The United Nations human rights chief, Navi Pillay, said last week there were unconfirmed reports that an estimated 300 people may have been killed, and that she was deeply alarmed by the sharp rise in casualties.
Heba Morayes of Human Rights Watch called the UN estimate 'safe and conservative.' In the first three days of unrest, two hospitals in Cairo, two in Alexandria and one in Suez reported a total of 154 people killed - most from gunshot wounds, she said.

...


http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1617853.php/Egypt-government-silent-on-death-toll-from-protests-Extra
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:47 PM
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35. Way west discuss MuslimB is telling, touches hamas-policy dilemma of 06 w\ no intellectual progress

abususu yassin
The way western politicians discuss EGY mb is telling - it touches hamas-policy dillemma of 06 but does NOT indicate intellectual progress
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:48 PM
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36. Documenting Human Rights Violations in the 20 revolution. YOU CAN HELP:
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 05:49 PM by Catherina
TravellerW Mo-ha-med
Documenting Human Rights Violations in the 2011 Egyptian revolution. YOU CAN HELP: http://bit.ly/25JanHR
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Wednesday, February 09, 2011
Documenting Human Rights Violations in the 2011 Egyptian revolution



HOW YOU CAN HELP:

If you have ANY document you think could be of use - be it an article, a report, a testimony, a picture (I think most people will be sending pictures and that's quite alright) send it to

HumanRightsEG at gmail dot com

Please include, when possible, any information about what you're sending. If it's a testimony, send the details; if it's a picture, include the date and place it was taken.

And spread the word!

http://www.travellerwithin.com/2011/02/documenting-human-rights-violations-in.html
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:51 PM
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37. first half of this article is ace, then it gets stupid, but worth reading for the first half
ElFoulio Abdel-Rahman Hussein
first half of this article is ace, then it gets stupid, but worth reading for the first half bit.ly/dTHby2
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How hard would it be to back Egyptian democracy, Mr President?
This is a simple enough choice between liberty and tyranny, yet the White House has done nothing but equivocate and dodge

Joshua Treviño
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 9 February 2011 20.15 GMT


Hosni Mubarak and Barack Obama meeting at the White House, in 2009: the US president has been far too timid in his calls for Mubarak to step aside, argues Joshua Treviño. Photograph: Dennis Black/EPA

The administration of Barack Obama has reacted to the uprising against Hosni Mubarak with the enthusiasm of a man condemned to consume a gallon of plain yoghurt. The president of the United States is not against Egyptian democracy, exactly – but neither is he especially for it.

His administration's pronouncements on events have reflected his dilatory approach: the day of the revolution's inception saw his secretary of state affirming the "stability" of the regime; then there was the infamous Robert Gibbs presser in which confusion and uncertainty were clearly communicated; then, there was the White House's efforts to leak to the press its masterful behind-the-scenes engagement with Egyptian power brokers; and then, there was this past weekend's jaw-dropping declaration by its envoy Frank Wisner that Mubarak ought to stay. Following that was the secretary of state's declaration that the American government's own man in Egypt "does not speak for the American government".

Well. During the 2008 Democratic presidential primaries, Hillary Clinton ran an ad asking whom voters trusted to receive the "3am phone call". At this point, Egyptians and Americans both would be happy if President Obama handled a call at 3pm.

The inability of the United States's foreign policy apparatus to develop a coherent and public response to the Egyptian revolution is not simply a condemnation of the president's management. Nor is it a stumble with limited consequences. As the UAE journalist Habiba Hamid quipped, "Imagine the tremendous outpouring of US support that 60 million Egyptians would have shown had the US actually supported democracy in Egypt." Indeed, imagine that.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/feb/09/barack-obama-white-house-egypt

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:54 PM
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39. SCUBA divers in revolution: 'Leave before the Air finishes!'
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
LOOL RT: @battutta: SCUBA divers in revolution: 'Leave before the Air finishes!' http://ow.ly/i/804S #jan25
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:54 PM
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40. cut internet connection? it is just like facebook, only analog
abususu yassin
My favourite metaphor of tajrir square in times of cut internet connections, as per a demonstrator: it is just like facebook, only analog
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:57 PM
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41. Anyone who thinks Suleiman can move #Egypt to democracy must read these 2 pieces

hackneylad Jack Shenker
Anyone who thinks Suleiman can move #Egypt to democracy must read these 2 pieces: http://bit.ly/fB9GSK | http://bit.ly/i6YsWE
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Egypt's army 'involved in detentions and torture'
Military accused by human rights campaigners of targeting hundreds of anti-government protesters


Chris McGreal in Cairo
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 9 February 2011 21.30 GMT
Article history


Army officers escort a prisoner away from Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt. The military – accused of involvement in torture – has always claimed to be a neutral force in the conflict. Photograph: Sean Smith for the Guardian

The Egyptian military has secretly detained hundreds and possibly thousands of suspected government opponents since mass protests against President Hosni Mubarak began, and at least some of these detainees have been tortured, according to testimony gathered by the Guardian.

The military has claimed to be neutral, merely keeping anti-Mubarak protesters and loyalists apart. But human rights campaigners say this is clearly no longer the case, accusing the army of involvement in both disappearances and torture – abuses Egyptians have for years associated with the notorious state security intelligence (SSI) but not the army.

The Guardian has spoken to detainees who say they have suffered extensive beatings and other abuses at the hands of the military in what appears to be an organised campaign of intimidation. Human rights groups have documented the use of electric shocks on some of those held by the army.

Egyptian human rights groups say families are desperately searching for missing relatives who have disappeared into army custody. Some of the detainees have been held inside the renowned Museum of Egyptian Antiquities on the edge of Tahrir Square. Those released have given graphic accounts of physical abuse by soldiers who accused them of acting for foreign powers, including Hamas and Israel.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-army-detentions-torture-accused




28 hours in the dark heart of Egypt's torture machine
A blindfolded Robert Tait could only listen as fellow captives were electrocuted and beaten by Mubarak's security service

(quoted in an earlier post in this thread, or the previous one)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-torture-machine-mubarak-security

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 05:59 PM
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42. Strike! Strike! Strike! globalvoicesonline.org
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
#Egypt Strike! Strike! Strike! globalvoicesonline.org/2011/02/09/egy… #egyworkers #Jan25
16 minutes ago

Egypt: Strike! Strike! Strike!
Posted 9 February 2011

This post is part of our special coverage of Egypt Protests 2011.

Hundreds of thousands of workers have gone on strike across Egypt today, and more are threatening to join the action tomorrow. Reports of strikes started making their way online yesterday, and netizens are now calling for a nationwide general strike, in solidarity with pro-democracy protests, now on their 16th day.

Workers from different industries are also calling for salary increments, allowances, better working conditions, and holding corrupt officials in the industries they are employed accountable for their wrong doings, says the Egyptian Centre for Revolutionary Socialism (Ar).

On his blog, Hossam El Hamalawy posts videos of some of the workers' protests around Cairo.

Here we catch up with the action from the “leaders of the independent Union of Real Estate Tax Authority Employees, march from Galaa Street to join the Tahrir Square occupation, in solidarity with the revolution.”

... http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/02/09/egypt-strike-strike-strike/


Embedded links, videos at link.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:00 PM
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43. My heart aches every time I get a mssg lkng for missing family mbr. regime must be brought to trial
occupiedcairo Occupied Cairo
My heart aches every time I get another message looking for a missing family member. This regime must be brought to trial #jan25
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:12 PM
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44. Mubarak's fan club in the US, pls em a friendly letter telling em to stop bein lame & stupid?
ElFoulio Abdel-Rahman Hussein
Mubarak's fan club in the US bit.ly/hLY7Yt #jan25 can frnds in US send em a friendly letter telling em to stop bein lame & stupid?
15 minutes ago


Mubarak's fan club in the US


Meet Mubarak's American fan club
The pundits and politicians who are siding with the brutal dictator over Egypt's people



View the slide show

Hosni Mubarak has ruled Egypt as a brutal dictator for 30 years, barring basic rights like freedom of speech and assembly and regularly employing torture to suppress political opposition. So when massive and unprecedented pro-democracy protests broke out in the last week, it was an easy call for many Americans: The ordinary Egyptians demanding that Mubarak go deserved support. The Obama administration, mindful of the United States' longtime alliance with Egypt, has been more hesitant; but statements by Obama officials in support of a "transition" from the Mubarak regime have been growing stronger by the day.

...

Sometimes the argument comes in the form of "I support democracy, but only if I agree with the results." Sometimes it's about Israel, which has a peace treaty with Egypt. Sometimes it's distaste with protest leader Mohammad ElBaradei, who angered conservatives during his stint at the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Often it has been fear of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has a role in the protests. (The group, it should be noted, was actually late to join the movement. And it is hardly the only group behind the protests.)

Here is a guide to those giving aid and comfort to Mubarak in America.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/03/mubarak_american_allies


#1 Ralph Reed
.... Wrote Reed: "I sympathize with the protestors in Egypt. They want democracy and freedom. But if Mubarak is replaced by ElBaradei in a government that includes the Muslim Brotherhood, the solution is worse than the problem."

#2 Thaddeus McCotter
""The Egyptian demonstrations are the reprise of Iran's 1979 radical revolution. Thus, America must stand with her ally Egypt to preserve an imperfect government capable of reform; and prevent a tyrannical government capable of harm ... This is not a nostalgic 'anti-colonial uprising' from within, of all places, the land of Nassar. Right now, freedom's radicalized enemies are subverting Egypt and our other allies.""

#3 John Bolton
"I don't have any doubt the demonstration in Egypt was triggered by what happened in Tunisia. But I also don't have any doubt the Muslim Brotherhood has watched this. Today, after the Friday prayers, the Muslim Brotherhood's supporters went out into the street, too, which explains the increase in violence. We're in a very, very dangerous situation here," he told Greta Van Susteren, adding: "We have a profound interest in the stability of the Israeli-Egyptian peace relationship. We've got an enormously strong relationship with the Egyptian military. Mubarak, while no Jeffersonian democrat to be sure, has been an American ally for 30 years. These are not things you toss away lightly against the promise, the hope, the aspiration for sweetness and light and democratic government."

#4 Rush Limbaugh
"Now, right now, folks, terrorists do not have a seat at the table of power, the table of government in Egypt. If Mubarak goes, the fact is that they're likely to have a seat. By the way, we're being told that in exchange for Mubarak we need Mohamed ElBaradei. Now, there's a good friend! Here's Mohamed ElBaradei who did his best to tell the world, 'The Iranians aren't up to anything. There aren't any nukes being developed in Iran.' He was a little more circumspect about it than that. But, ladies and gentlemen, there are a number of things here to be somewhat concerned about. Egypt is an ally. They have been for a while. And if this goes the wrong way, you're gonna have, if Mubarak goes down, you're gonna have terrorists (Muslim Brotherhood) likely to have a seat at the Egyptian table of government, if not own the table."

#5 Leslie Gelb
"So, some administration officials are thinking that for all the risks of losing a good ally in Mubarak, it might well be better to get 'on the right side of history' ... But those officials who think this way forget their history."
"Most certainly, most Arab governments friendly to Washington need to make reforms. But to do so at a moment of weakness, to be seen as bending to mobs, however peaceful and moderate they look now, could open up the floodgates -- in Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere."

#6 Pamela Geller
"GOOD NEWS: EGYPT ARRESTS MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD LEADERS."
"Mubarak has been a US ally for decades. We send three billion dollars a year to Egypt. And Egypt made a peace deal with Israel. But knowing Obama, he will throw another ally under the bus."

#7 Richard Cohen
"The dream of a democratic Egypt is sure to produce a nightmare," he wrote, decrying the fact that "Egypt, once stable if tenuously so, has been pitched into chaos."
"America needs to be on the right side of human rights. But it also needs to be on the right side of history. This time, the two may not be the same."

#8 Mike Huckabee
"The events of the past few days in Egypt have created a very tenuous situation, not just for Egypt, not just for the Middle East, but for the entire world, and the destabilization of that nation has the potential of cascading across the globe." Back stateside, he appeared on Fox and criticized Obama for not offering "at least an acknowledgment that Mubarak has been a friend these years."

#9 Allen West
"Over there, sometimes it does require a stronger hand to keep those radical elements at bay," he said. "When Sadat let up, he was assassinated by the Brotherhood. That's the biggest concern that I have ... If you don't keep these radical elements at bay, then all of a sudden they rise up and they take advantage of these turbulent situations." West later sent out a tweet warning against abandoning Mubarak: "Obama shouldn't demand the departure of Mubarak without knowing who fills void. No Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, or Reagan in Egypt."

#10 Andrew McCarthy
National Review writer and author of, most recently, "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America,"
"We have two principal interests in the region: peace and anti-terrorism. Say what you will about Mubarak, who has committed abominable abuses and stunted the growth of civil society -- albeit in the face of a non-stop terrorist threat that is more immediate and existential than anything we face in the U.S. Mubarak has also kept the peace with Israel, and he has been a real ally against terrorists (as opposed to 'allies' who profess allegiance with us but do more to abet than defeat jihadism)."

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:13 PM
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45. US govt's opinions seem increasingly irrelevant to the revolution in Egypt.
ElFoulio Abdel-Rahman Hussein
true “@thesquinch: @ElFoulio the US govt's opinions seem increasingly irrelevant to the revolution in Egypt. #Jan25 #Egypt”
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:14 PM
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46.  Kharga Oasis Museum is in danger after the police backed off from the zone, please help
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @monznomad: Kharga Oasis Museum is in danger after the police backed off from the zone, please help! #Jan25
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:14 PM
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47. The only people actually working and getting paid during this revolution are the journalists
NadiaE Nadia El-Awady
The only people actually working and getting paid during this revolution are the journalists #egypt #jan25
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:31 PM
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50. Correction: only people working/getting paid in this revolution r journos, army, flag sellers & Muba

NadiaE Nadia El-Awady
Correction: only people working/getting paid in this revolution r journos, army, flag sellers and MUBARAK #jan25 #egypt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:23 PM
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48. Sleeping now between strangers under a simple tent in street. Can't be happier!
Zeinobia Zeinobia
RT @AntiHating: Sleeping now between strangers under a simple tent in street. Can't be happier! :-) #jan25 #Tahrir #egypt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 06:25 PM
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49. Part 9 here
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