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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:41 PM
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No, Rummy the Intelligence Wasn't Wrong - You Were.
Edited on Tue Feb-08-11 04:42 PM by kpete
No, Rummy the Intelligence Wasn't Wrong - You Were.
by Vyan
Tue Feb 08, 2011 at 12:52:53 PM PST

Rumseld with Diane Sawyer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NwkjbqgOXk

Rumsfeld: The idea that he (Powell) was lying (before the U.N.) or duped is nonsense. He believed it. Our military believed. Our military got chemical weapons suits on to protect them. Saddam Hussein neighbors told us, "Be ready, when you get close to Bahgdad their going to use Chemical Weapons againt yor troops"

Sawyer: But you were wrong?

Rumsfeld: Oh my goodness, the intelligence was most certainly wrong.


No, really it wasn't.

The fact is the original Iraq NIE was doctored...
http://www.pipeline.com/~rougeforum/ciablackedout.html

WASHINGTON — In a classified National Intelligence Estimate prepared before the Iraq war, the CIA hedged its judgments about Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction, pointing up the limits of its knowledge.

But in the unclassified version of the NIE — the so-called white paper cited by the Bush administration in making its case for war — those carefully qualified conclusions were turned into blunt assertions of fact, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on prewar intelligence.

The repeated elimination of qualifying language and dissenting assessments of some of the government's most knowledgeable experts gave the public an inaccurate impression of what the U.S. intelligence community believed about the threat Hussein posed to the United States, the committee said.

Dedicating a section of its 511-page report to discrepancies between the two versions of the crucial October 2002 NIE, the panel laid out numerous instances in which the unclassified version omitted key dissenting opinions about Iraqi weapons capabilities, overstated U.S. knowledge about Iraq's alleged stockpiles of weapons and, in one case, inserted threatening language into the public document that was not contained in the classified version.


more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/2/8/942118/-No,-Rummy-the-Intelligence-Wasnt-WrongYou-Were.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:42 PM
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1. recommend
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:44 PM
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2. Maybe Rumsfeld will tell us why George W. sat on his butt and didn't do a thing...
...when told by Card that we were under attack on 9/11.

Ya' think?
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:46 PM
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3.  Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq war
in 2003 I bought this dvd...It has diplomats, military, weapons inspectors, politicians all saying there were no weapons of mass destruction and that the administration was told this.

You can watch it on You Tube and Google

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowqX2ngHl4
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:48 PM
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4. That because Cheney was at CIA Headquarters making SURE the intelligence was wrong
CIA operatives and analysts knew that anything that went against the "Saddam has WMD's" line was a career-killer.

And then there was the "Office of Special Plans" which pipelined RAW, unvetted intelligence directly to the National Security principals.

It was damned impossible for "the intelligence" to be RIGHT.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:30 PM
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10. "Wrong answer - try again"
I believe that actual phrase was used at one point by Cheney or one of his assistants when presented with facts that didn't gibe with the administration's pre-ordained truth. The case for going to war with Iraq was nearly irrelevant, and the administration's handling of the intelligence betrayed their cavalier attitude toward a bona fide case for going to war. Launching a war used to be a rather sober (you'll pardon the expression) undertaking; the Bush administration treated it like a frat prank. And our somnambulent bulldogs of the Fourth Estate could hardly be roused to give a tin shit, preferring instead to mock the dirty fucking hippies who saw this exercise in futile imperialism for what it was.

Motherfuckers all.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:50 PM
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5. K&R
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:04 PM
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6. I saw that interview last night and
it was so hard to keep from smashing my television when hearing that lying asshole. I cannot wait unitl he's dead.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:06 PM
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7. what pisses me off is that these criminals have to answer to no one.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:19 PM
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8. If anyone tried this bullshit in a courtroom, they'd be found guilty.
Well my neighbor said that the guy across the street is armed and ready to attack us. So we killed him. Your honor, we even locked our doors because we were so worried.

Letting these murderers go free is a crime in itself. What a nightmare. I feel like a person of color in 1950, in the south, who has just been assaulted, and can't get the police to respond. Pathetic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:20 PM
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:41 PM
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11. I'm sure Sawyer will report this
Right?

I mean she is such a fantastic journalist she wouldn't let the mofo lying to her just slide, would she?

Right?
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