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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:03 PM
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Fox: Obama not as straightforward as Reagan because he didn't tell Mubarak to tear down the wall
February 07, 2011 09:00 AM
Fox talkers use Reagan's birthday as an opportunity to bash Obama
By David Neiwert



http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/fox-talkers-use-reagans-birthday-opp

Pretty typical of this was a segment yesterday featuring Greg Jarrett and Casey Stegall discussing the day's events, as Stegall gushed over what a moving tribute it all was, and Jarrett eagerly agreed.

CHILDERS: You just mentioned 'tear down this wall' -- four words, changed the worlds, helping end Communism, and of course, the fall of the Berlin Wall -- those words, pretty straightforward, unlike President Obama's initial words to Hosni Mubarak calling for an 'orderly transition.' Did Obama do the right thing initially?

WHITON: No. And you know, Ronald Reagan also believed in being somewhat concise in foreign policy, especially the big goals. And he knew what was really behind the threats we faced -- he had spent the better part of three decades before he took office in 1981 thinking about the threat from Russia -- not just its more apparent manifestations like the Red Army in Eastern Europe, the Red Army in Afghanistan, ICBMs, but understood what drove it, the Communist ideology. And he understood that ultimate victory meant undermining Communism.

But in the same way, not only President Obama but his predecessor in the White House have not really made the same analogy of our current conflict. We haven't identified Islamism as the chief thing that unites groups from Al Qaeda to the Islamic Brotherhood, the Hezbollah. Nor have we figured out how to fight it, and President Obama, the Obama administration saying that it would be fine for the Muslim Brotherhood to be part of a future Egyptian government shows that our Washington foreign-policy establishment really doesn't understand today's threats the way Ronald Reagan used to.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:08 PM
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1. No matter what, faux will find something to criticize
about President Obama. They go out of their way to find fault with him, real or imagined.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:37 PM
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7. He could find a cure for cancer and they'd criticize him because he didn't make it cherry flavored
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:56 PM
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9. Egypt has been ally, Communis countries were not!
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:15 PM
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2. Anybody else notice
Whenever someone talks about bush and how he failed to do things they never use the name bush but
state "Obama and his predecessor"??
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:36 PM
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6. Andm when they do mention * it's President Bush, with POTUS it's
just Obama.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:25 PM
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3. Wasn't Reagan in office when Mubarak took control of Egypt?
But we must remain open here and realize that no matter what Obama does, FOX will ridicule it.

NO MATTER WHAT!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:26 PM
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4. Mr. Mubarak, tear down those pyramids!
what a bunch of numbskulls!
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:45 PM
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12. NOW we're getting somewhere! Why couldn't Obama have said that?
:rofl:

:toast:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:34 PM
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5. Reagan's "call" was cosmetic.
He knew, or at least his advisers knew, the Wall was coming down. It was just a matter of time.

But it sure was a "Hollywood" moment!

Oh, and the sad consequence of the Fall of the Wall was America no longer had a "boogieman" to fear...until four years later and the first WTC attack.

Exit the "communist," enter the "terrorist."
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:45 PM
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8. Notice how they wonder what a dead man would do??
raygun is probably just sitting in Egypt wrapped as a mummy up so they can trot him out in a couple of years to run again and save the world..........
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:52 PM
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15. I have to ask... why is the GOP running a dead man for office?
And what office?

Seems to me Reagan would not approve of his memorials being used to bash another president.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:29 PM
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10. faux comedy channel...they are hilarious!!!!
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:31 PM
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11. Enough of the goddamn necrophilia already. nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:48 PM
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13. Reagan? The guy who lost Russia?
Yeah, we're going to take foreign policy lessons from the man who armed the ayatollahs in Iran.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:50 PM
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14. and in fox's version of history, the relationship between the USSR and the US
was the same as the relationship between Egypt and the US.

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:56 PM
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16. It was 29 months after Reagan made that speech that the Berlin Wall came down.
Obama's Cairo speech was in June 2009 ... or, just about 20 months ago.

Of course FAUX NEWS is pissed off.
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