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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:05 PM
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The song "Proud to be an American"

Right wingers love this song, ever notice.
Its one of their staples. Why is that?

And why are some people proud of happening to be born in the United States? Isn't that simply an accident of birth?
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:09 PM
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1. Borders are maps mean way to much to people. Like Texans.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:31 PM
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24. I'm sorry? What is that again?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:56 PM
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47. Texas can bite me...
:evilgrin:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:11 PM
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2. Sing it Fee !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5zhz3hy62w

(Two chickens in every garage ?)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:20 PM
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8. They got department stores full of cheap guitars
But when Sputnik plays 'em, you just go, Go, GO, GO!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:25 PM
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17. LOL ...
I was a Tubes fan back in the day .... They were unique .... I met Fee because his sister Sally lived in a house next door ....

Fee was last sighted hanging out with Dave Grohl during the recording of the next Foo Fighters album ... singing back up with Lemmy and Butch Vig, among others ...

Tubes concerts were freewheeling melees .... lots of fun ....
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:29 PM
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20. cool. (nt)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:29 PM
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21. My college roommate had their early records
And yes, records. Ell Pees. Vinyl. See kids, back in the day . . .

Who knows what happened to that ragtag crew? But it was real rock and roll and fun.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:49 PM
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39. I had quite a few of their LPs
Unfortunately, Vince Welnick committed suicide a couple of years ago (piano) ... Im sure they could regroup, but maybe they are beyond even that ... They were fun while it lasted though ...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:45 PM
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34. Cool. 'White Punks On Dope' was an anthem in the '70's
Saw them at the Paramount in Portland around 1977.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:51 PM
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42. Hey Steve ....
I saw them at the Roxy in Los Angeles about that time .... Crazy show, but tons of fun .... Quay Lewd in his platforms was hilarious ....

I REALLY loved the Synth and piano work .... RIP Vince Welnick ....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:54 PM
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45. Double-plus cool.
:)
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:12 PM
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3. Because HW Bush made an on camera remark about how he loves that song
and it stuck.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:14 PM
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4. Did you know that the Battle Hymn of the Republic is sacred to the Teabaggers?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:15 PM
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5. Every country on the planet has at least one song with that same shit
but we all know that Samuel Johnson was correct - patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:17 PM
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6. Never been one for overt displays of patriotism or nationalism
Yes, I like my country. But I don't believe my country is any better than others. And as another poster pointed out, its just sheer accident of birth that I'm an American.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:44 PM
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50. I have no problem with patriotism in small doses
but the problem is it can be twisted so easily into nationalism or even Fascism if people aren't careful.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:18 PM
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7. Samuel Johnson would have much to say regarding this.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:22 PM
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9. Goes along with the phrase "Freedom isn't free".
Edited on Sun Feb-06-11 07:23 PM by undeterred
Which inevitably means you gotta keep paying for it by having a war somewhere.
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:23 PM
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10. I don't hate my/this country...
But GOD! I HATE that F***ing song!

In my opinion, it's portrays the US as an EMPIRE. It really says "God Bless America and TO HELL with the rest of the world."

Every time I hear this song, I make a tantrum! I'd rather listen to Megadeth's "Sympothy of Destruction" than this! :mad:
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digitaln3rd Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:23 PM
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11. I think David Cross says it best about Lee Greenwood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Bb-pZTcmQ

Personally I'd rather cut myself with a million rusty blades and jump naked into a pool of salt water then listen to that horrible song.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:24 PM
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12. According to many of them it was gawd's will. n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:27 PM
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13. Because it's a crap song filled with superiority and arrogance.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:29 PM
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14. Lee Greenwood who wrote the song was booed by veterans when the song
was on the charts because he was a draft dodger.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:32 PM
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26. "I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today."
I imagine that line didn't sit too well with the people who REALLY put their asses on the line for the country.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:52 PM
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44. according to Snopes, the story about Greenwood being a draft doger is false
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:10 PM
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60. Inasmuch as 'Snopes' discounts this as being false, might you provide
a link to some sort of article that reported it?
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:30 PM
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15. It's actually called "God Bless the USA".
Stupid, insipid lyrics and meaningless patriotic masturbation.
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:27 PM
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18. meaningless patriotic masturbation...
Agreed. :mad:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:41 AM
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54. Different song
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 07:38 PM
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16. On the accident of birth and patriotism, Bill Hicks said it best.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:28 PM
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19. You're just not thinking like a Rethug
Gaaawwwwd made you be born in Amurica. That's why you're so special.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:30 PM
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23. Praise Jesus!
And fuck the rest a all y'all!
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:30 PM
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22. It's way overdone.
IMO that's what kills it for me.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:31 PM
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25. It is much the same as that pathetic bumper sticker. I saw one just
the other day, again.
"The Power of Pride".
What is the power of pride? Zero, that is what the power of pride is. Pride without a basis for it, without having done some good thing to warrant it, is nothing but bald arrogance.
Their book, the bible, mentions 'pride comes before the fall'. Or some such thing. I have heard it said that pride IS the fall.
What about Vietnam? Are they proud of that?
dc
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:40 PM
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30. I'd always heard that pride was the sin that got Lucifer cast out of Heaven.
I do believe that was a major theme of Milton's Paradise Lost.

I've seen that bumper sticker before, and I just shrugged and assumed it was a Satan worshipper driving the car.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:43 PM
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32. LOL
+1
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:36 PM
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27. I prefer "Proud to be a Canadian" by Dayglo Abortions.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:47 PM
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36.  That made me want to punch something.
Any song that uses the word "shithole" in it is alright in my book.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:36 PM
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28. I think it's cause they mama and pappy done hated they's guts!
Hear me now: see, they find the love they weren't given in normal family ways, by going off and yapping up a flagpole so as to feel a belongin' with the others what also had neglectful, cold an' too drunk ma's an' pa's.

It jes brings a body to tears, may God spare they sad, lonely souls!
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LarryNM Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:39 PM
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29. The Words Didn't/Don't Reflect Reality
I remember thinking our freedoms were being taken away when the song first came out and it has only gotten worse in the almost 20 years since. If you loose your life's earnings, this is one of the Last of the Industrial Democracies you would want to be in to have to start things over.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:42 PM
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31. It's that old now? I was thinking this waqs the one that
came out after 9/11. Am I thinking of a different song?
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LarryNM Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:45 PM
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33. I Thought This came out around the time of the first Iraq Invasion (n/t)
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:48 PM
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38. it came out in 1984 n/t
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:55 PM
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59. Written for the GOP convention, IIRC.
To me , the song sounds like a jingle for a cheap beer commercial rather than a patriotic song.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:49 PM
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40. Thanks. (nt)
Edited on Sun Feb-06-11 08:49 PM by Kurovski
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:47 PM
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37. It came out in 1984 n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:51 PM
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43. Thanks. I was thinking of the song:
"Where were you when the world stopped turning" (9/11)
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:56 PM
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46. ah yes, I remember that one -- at least that was better than
Edited on Sun Feb-06-11 08:56 PM by fishwax
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:46 PM
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35. that song is just horrible, just HORRIBLE , and i like our national anthem
so it's not because i don't like any patriotic songs.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 08:50 PM
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41. George Carlin's take on patriotism
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:33 PM
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48. Fuck that song with a rotten pineapple.
This Land Is My Land, is the shiznit.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:41 PM
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49. Check out this Westboro Baptist Church version on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOrz5k0jWdU&feature=related

From a BBC documentary "The Most Hated Family in America"



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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:52 PM
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51. Awww. they're my favorite aggressively psychotic dickwads.
Such cute simpering pieces of filth, presumptuous self-appointed stand-ins for God.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:53 PM
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52. exceptionalism.
There's a song called Little Tin God on Don Henley's End of the Innocence album; I won't post here what's at Youtube, the imagery on it is drenched in right wing taint.

The lyrics to the song are at the link for context.
<http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/don+henley/little+tin+god_20042060.html>

And you can give the song a listen here
<http://new.music.yahoo.com/don-henley/tracks/little-tin-god--612535>

This is the part I think at issue here, from the second verse I think:

"...Well the cowboy's name was jingles
and he heard that there was trouble
so in a blaze of glory, he rode out of the west
No one was ever certain what it was that he was saying
but they loved he when he told them
they were better than the rest."

Pushing the selling points on one of humanity's most exploitable flaws, the desire to be more than equal. One of those things that should, IMO be chalked up with that which is too good to be true, and subsequently, not believable.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:42 PM
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53. 'Proud to be a 'Murikan where at least I think I'm free'
at least that's how I change the lyrics...
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:12 PM
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61. And there it is...
As long as the sheep believe it, all is well.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 01:02 AM
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55. that song brings tears to my eyes
Edited on Mon Feb-07-11 01:02 AM by Qanisqineq
Not because it is bad, or because I'm terribly patriotic. I like the song because it reminds me of my dad before depression. I was a kid when that song was out and he would always sing along to it. Then --boom-- depression. Maybe something happened that I was not privy to, I don't know. He just seemed to spiral down and it hasn't let up in about thirty years. And he stopped singing or playing guitar, too.

So, for that reason, that song and "Rhinestone Cowboy," and some other oldies he liked to sing/play guitar to, bring tears to my eyes for the memories. Unfortunately, they are kind of crappy songs. :)
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 03:39 PM
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58. Try something a little newer?
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roDXSHSEuoo>

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0O2LMqnHGg>

I'm a mush bucket, so it's no surprise they push some on my bottom lip!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 01:55 AM
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56. That song came out a couple of years after I joined the USAF, and they
played it at EVERY function after that.

I didn't know a single enlisted person that liked it.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:34 PM
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57. Proud to have a lobotomy (is the subtext, I've always thought)
n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 04:12 PM
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62. most of these crappy songs are about supporting war and the military
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