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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 04:57 PM
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Will the Supreme Court lose legitimacy if it strikes down the health care law along partisan lines?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/weekinreview/06liptak.html?ref=us

Now the justices appear to line up along the ideological spectrum in partisan lockstep. The ones appointed by Democrats form the court’s liberal wing. The ones appointed by Republicans make up a conservative bloc, with Justice Anthony M. Kennedy in the ideological middle but leaning right. "Should a bare majority of justices composed solely of the court’s Republican-appointed members strike down a Democratic president’s signature legislative achievement, the public perception of the court may be altered.

“In the aftermath of Bush v. Gore, which no one has forgotten, this will be looked at in deeply partisan ways,” says Barry Friedman, a law professor at New York University and the author of “The Will of the People,” an examination of the role that public opinion plays in constitutional cases at the court. “For the good of the republic, it’s better if it’s not 5-to-4.”

But the suspicion that something political is afoot is unlikely to go away. It is entirely plausible that when the Supreme Court decides the ultimate fate of the health care law, it will do so along partisan lines, with the five justices appointed by Republicans voting to strike it down and the four appointed by Democrats in dissent.

A decision from the Supreme Court will probably not come for a year and a half or more, and there will be many twists and turns along the way. But some scholars are already wondering how much damage, if any, a party-line ruling striking down the law would do to the court’s prestige, authority and legitimacy."

For better or worse, it seems doubtful that even a 5-4 partisan overturning of Obama's bill will hurt public perception of the court in the short run, if Bush v. Gore and Citizens United did not do it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 04:58 PM
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1. Bush v Gore forever changed their "legitimacy"
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 04:59 PM
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2. +1.....
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 06:02 PM
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10. Yep
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:00 PM
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3. spot on, that...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:11 PM
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8. I was going to say that.
You beat me to it.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:20 PM
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9. Exactly! nt
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:03 PM
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4. They lost it when they did Bush/Gore!
Zero credibility.

ZERO.

:mad:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:07 PM
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5. That Didn't Stop Them With "Citizens United" or "Bush v. Gore"
They will overturn it along party lines and the insurance companies will get to screw us with even more impunity for another generation.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:10 PM
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6. The last decade has been all about delegitimization of American institutions.
Edited on Sun Feb-06-11 05:11 PM by leveymg
From the New York Times to the CIA to the SCOTUS, the joke has been on us.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 05:10 PM
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7. Horse done left that barn.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 06:10 PM
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11. I haven't considered them legitimate for years. Any veneer of
impartiality went out the window with Bush v. Gore.

That was a serious, serious blunder on the part of the court. It will forever change how everyone - of all political stripes - views the court.

It went from a Supreme Court to a kangaroo court in blink of an eye.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 06:24 PM
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12. They have lacked legitimacy since about 1804
First they manufactured the right to nullify laws and then the court has nearly always been stacked against "We the People". Whether it is the Dred Scott decision or the 9-0 vote to keep Eugene Debs in prison for saying he thought the Sedition Acts were unconstitutional, banning legislation against child labor, or just fucking over the ballot box I'm convinced that USA would be better off without a Supreme Court which is appointed by the completely corporate owned US Senate. Doing away with the US senate would be marvelous, also.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 06:41 PM
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13. Will Only Confirm The Obvious
Should I presume that the article meant legitimacy in the opinion of MSM (Mumbo-jumbo Stream Media)?
Most thinking people have long written them off as being partisan since Bush v Gore and the
Citizen United case solidified that opinion - case closed.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:41 PM
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14. Tragically for this County
the Supreme Court is running pretty low on being impartial and non-partisan.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:26 AM
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15. What legitimacy? nt
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