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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-11 11:49 PM Original message |
The Egyptian Uprising Is a Direct Response to Ruthless Global Capitalism |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. kr. but it started even earlier, during the sadat regime, which opened up egypt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Thank you for that information ~ |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. k&r |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. "Capitalism is an evil. And you can't regulate an evil." When we all recognize that .... |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Huge +1 |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I think the revolution is about freedom and ability to start your own business |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Capitalism isn't "freedom" ... it's servitude for the many and huge profits for the few ... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
73. Wow. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
88. But I don't want to live in a government owned apartment |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
130. You've chosen to hide your profile (why?) but that's not been my experience |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Do I even have a profile? I didn't know I was supposed to show anything |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #130 |
155. ... thank you -- and from the last poll, Americans want what Scandinavians have--!! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #155 |
159. Americans want it all, my friend |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #159 |
184. We already pay as much as the Swiss pay for their luxurious health care ... but we get none of it!! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #184 |
195. Baloney, Americans love war, and there's no anti war movement |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #195 |
207. You remember what happened at Kent State ...? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #207 |
237. There was no wide-spread police brutality in the 60s? Well, we know someone isn't african american.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #237 |
242. Oops! Didn't mean to say anything like that -- !! |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #242 |
245. I know that's what you meant, was just winding ya up! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #237 |
252. I believe the students shot at kent state where all white |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #88 |
154. Have you read about the problems with the Taj Mahal Embassies we built in ME? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #154 |
160. Just imagine if we had used the New York Transit Authority to build those embassies |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #160 |
185. What you are describing is corporate crime ... and a lack of knowledge re transit system... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #185 |
194. We are discussing the ability of a government owned corporation to build something |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #194 |
206. Again, anywhere you look, private industry is ripping off government ... whether Taj Mahal |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. Governments don't have products other than laws and regulations |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #208 |
217. Yes. They do have products. Roads, bridges, public libraries |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #217 |
223. Those are not PRODUCTS, they are services |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #223 |
230. My county government paves roads, installs lights, and other shit. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #230 |
251. Social Critic Corrects Himself |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #208 |
220. Governments also CREATE corporations -- |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #220 |
228. Yes they do, and most of the time they don't work very well |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #228 |
236. Oh. My. Gawd! Bad teevee!!!1111! Socialism must die!!111!!! nt |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #236 |
253. Social Critic says: Bad TV is very important to people |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #154 |
233. You could do with meeting people who grew up under communism |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #233 |
238. He sure could - but he won't listen to us |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #238 |
240. In my old building my heat came on when the government said it would |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #233 |
243. What do you think the private builders "First Kuwaiti Trading & Contracting" ... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #243 |
244. Because you seem to think that it's capitalism, not corruption that's the issue |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #244 |
246. You're comparing totalitarian communism to a private Kuwaiti builder's rip-offs in Iraq? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 03:17 AM Response to Reply #246 |
250. No, you're comparing them. I really don't care about anecdotal evidence |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #250 |
259. Kuwait Trading is a PRIVATE corporation ... not communism .. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #259 |
260. You're not even listening, are you? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #243 |
255. That's just Bush and his shenanigans |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
231. Um, that's a corrupt system you're blaming, not the actual capitalistic system |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #231 |
247. Yes -- and the corrupt system is capitalism .... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #247 |
249. Capitalism with oversight is fine. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #249 |
258. Full circle back to this: "Capitalism is an evil. You can't regulate an evil" |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #258 |
261. By that standard so is communism |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. Capitalism is NOT a "pretty good system" |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. least worst is pretty good |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
81. That's the funniest fucking thing I've seen in days. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. You are welcome |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Funny, I didn't see any signs saying "I want a store!" |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. The old chestnut |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. I want a store is the wrong sign to show at this time |
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PhillySane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
114. I think |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. That's about it |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #120 |
141. Recognizing the role of global capital in an economic implosion ≠ communist propagandizing. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. What's Leave it to Beaver? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #143 |
150. Don't know what "Leave it to Beaver" is, but I should trust you know everything else? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #150 |
169. Marx was wrong |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #150 |
262. You may want to listen to people who have actually live in communist states. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #141 |
164. Well remember, this guy hangs around Tony H......... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #164 |
193. Capitalist Bubble Boys, Tony Hayward, and my Egyptian Friends |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #141 |
186. Actually, I have an Egyptian friend who wants a store, too. nt |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
93. lol - just get them protesters a storefront and they'll be good to go. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Don't focus on the storefront, they do want freedom |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #109 |
219. Its not either/or. They want the freedom to do all of it. And that doesn't happen in a pure |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. "Capitalism is an evil." And Sabrina's comment about........ |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Capitalism isn't evil at all |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So you want me to set up a radical socialist ......... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Sounds impractical. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I guess you never heard of MONDRAGON? And our local "gov't owned" power co is 1/3 the cost |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. Sounds like baloney |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Judging everything by the yardstick of a dollar bill has brought us Global Warming and destruction!! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Who said anything about judging everything by the yardstick of a dollar? |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Isn't it funny just how MUCH "regulatory failure" is ............ |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
96. I don't think it's funny |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
129. I can. The Socialist Democracies of Scandinavia. nt |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #129 |
136. Those are the Capitalist Democracies of Scandinavia |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #136 |
192. I love it - "Globalist neoliberal capitalists". If DU had a bar, those would be fighting words. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. I had to throw in neoliberal, I guess |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #136 |
222. Nope, constitutional monarchies. You need a closer check on their own political identities nt |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #222 |
234. Those Kings are fake. |
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PhillySane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
115. I think you're giving George Orwell a run for the money here! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Really? Did you ever try a day in a Soviet Gulag? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #119 |
131. Oh so it has to be either a Soviet gulag or the warped US system? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Sure, but this guy called me Orwellian |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #65 |
156. And ... WHY do we have "regulatory failure" ... anything to do with coporations buying government .. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #156 |
165. Why do we have regulatory failure? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #165 |
178. We have the overturning of New Deal regulations because of corporate bribery .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #178 |
209. You keep skating all over the place |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #209 |
225. Or you could try answering. Exposed as a libertarian fool.... nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. "Sounds impractical" ... if all you're after is a huge profits -- not wellbeing of people/community! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
66. I'm for the wellbeing of people and community |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Huge profits mean huge taxes. Yeah, sure they do.......... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Yes sir, huge profits means huge taxes |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #80 |
180. We're all paying MORE in taxes than many corporations ...rather ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #180 |
198. We could start a thread on how to reform the tax system |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Corporations/capitalism are based on exploitation of everything ... profits over people ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I can be for both profit and people |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
133. Profits are at a record high right now. Companies are hoarding money |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. Hey, things are looking good |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #82 |
151. No -- Capitalism is PROFIT over people ... you can see that in BP Gulf ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #151 |
161. your post is way too long to anwer it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #161 |
181. "I don't think oil companies knew about global warming until recently" -- !!!! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #181 |
202. Show me an article published 50 years ago attributing global warming to the greenhouse effect |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #151 |
163. Regarding BP's evil oil spill |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #163 |
182. You're saying ... "poor BP" .... ??? rofl |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #182 |
197. You need to complete your thoughts |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #197 |
224. Here's a complete thought ... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #197 |
226. Or you could answer. Thats called having a discussion. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #226 |
248. What is it YOU want an answer to ... ? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #248 |
254. Social Critic says: We were starting to discuss the BP oil spill as a sub-thread |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
75. Following the rules huh? They ARE following the rules........... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #75 |
102. No they are not |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
183. And, we know it also buys overturning the RULES ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #183 |
199. There was no long standing ban on offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #199 |
214. Obama Ends Ban On East Coast Offshore Drilling -- 3/21/10 |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. John Maynard Keynes quote. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. .. and the larger the corporations grow, the larger our MIC to support and protect them ...!! |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
64. hmm.... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. All anyone has to do is open his/her eyes to know where one "get these ideas" |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The profit motive is a great wealth creator |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Do you take people around here for idiots? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Why don't you explain to us what the profit motive has done to food security? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
215. Profit motive has produced Global Warming ... you thing that will produce food security ... ???? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #215 |
232. That's a long reach |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Profit motive has been highly destructive to our planet and people .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. The profit motive is what makes the world go round |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Right there is the fault in your thinking ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. I don't use a credit card that often, when I do I pay it within three days |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. No everyone is so fortunate .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. I'm not fortunate, I know how to handle my finances |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
123. And you are not a democrat either. Why on earth are you wasting your time here? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #123 |
132. I didn't say I was a democrat, I find them to be soft and cuddly but... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #132 |
138. Two words: democratic socialism. Two words: Scandinavian countries |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. I like Scandinavian Capitalist Countries |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #142 |
227. Poor thing. Exposed in public as a noob. Good luck with that here. nt |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 07:48 AM Response to Reply #132 |
158. Yes I think the revolution is for real, and that it has been hijacked by the West |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #158 |
171. The West? What the heck is The West? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
216. And everyone else is an idiot? 25 million unemployed/long term unemployed included? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #216 |
256. I'm not for reckless corporate criminals either |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
101. Wealth creator for the top 1% maybe. nt |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Maybe? It is a great wealth creator |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Fair distribution is where I'd bet we differ... well, ownership of means of production as well. nt |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #112 |
121. Ownership of the means of production by the state is a joke, isn't it? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Of course it's theory - we don't have a pure communist state to look at for reference. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #122 |
135. That's because you let them do it to you |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
162. You keep talking about trade and merchantilism............. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #162 |
167. The problem with your socialist system is.... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #167 |
235. Sorry but socialist oriented systems are thriving. Like the Scandinavian countries |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. On Its Own, No |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Now you're talking |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Capitalism is a ridiculolus "King-of-the-Hill" system ... it is a pyramid scheme ... !! |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Nothing wrong with that |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Oh, NO ... capitalism is about killing the competition .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Good capitalism is about competition, not necessarily killing it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #84 |
152. Evidently, you've never played Monopoly ... ??? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #152 |
168. The seven sisters don't exist anymore |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #168 |
188. That's what I was pointing out to you ... and that they were once ONE and the same... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #188 |
210. I can lecture mr Hartman on oil |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #210 |
218. Cheney and Scalia probably know more about "oil" than Thom Hartmann... on the criminal side -- !! |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
179. What Goes On at the Top Is Coopotition |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
191. So what DO you do about that? How do you fix it? Do you agree there's a problem? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #191 |
211. How do I fix the world? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #211 |
241. How does letting them buy each other fix the problem? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #241 |
257. But the war and our imperial posture are a big part of the problem |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Most of the world has long understood the evils of capitalism... where have you been? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. What's democratic socialism? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Socially responsible economic systems -- |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
85. Europeans are capitalists |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #85 |
153. Actually they mix capitalism and socialism ... democratic socialism ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #153 |
172. I call it democratic capitalism |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #172 |
187. Capitalism is associated with corrupt and repressive regimes ... America, for instance! |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
94. Alternative: Worldwide Socialism |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. World Wide Socialism? The reign of tyrants and fools |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Man in a mask indeed. Enjoy your day. nt |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. Actually, it's a response to not having a say in the people running government. n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 05:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Not true. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
92. The commodities price rises can be blamed on the chinese |
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Countdown_3_2_1 (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Bingo. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. "nothing to do with global economies." |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
104. Laugh, Laugh, Laug |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Of course it has to do with "global economies" ... US taxpayer has paid for this dictatorship .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
106. We didn't pay for this dictatorship |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #106 |
190. "Made in USA" ... jets, tanks and tear gas cannisters ... attacking Egyptian protesters ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #190 |
203. it's certain but I can't show it to you |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Are you saying Mubarak ran honest accounts with Egypt/Egyptians --? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #205 |
213. No and Yes |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #213 |
221. Have a feeling the Egyptians have a better idea of what's missing $$ than you do.... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. Bullshit. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
124. Destructive Neoliberal Global Economic Policies |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
90. You haven't been following. They certainly are. A key demand is an end to privatization |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. A key demand isn't the end to privatization |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. AWESOME |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. The part about the foreign investors being required.......... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Get the holy water and buy more stock |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. "Buy more stock" so small investors can get ripped off again -- ? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Very eclectic post, but hard to say what's real in it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Thanks for the insight into your thinking .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. No problem, I really enjoy to show you the way |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Organized patriarchal religion is based on racist, sexist and homophobic beliefs ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. OK, so you want to force the recipe |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. No, not all of us are "bad guys". That is y'all and your capitalism. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
144. Oh sorry, I thought you were one of us |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
134. "We" do have all the details. Read Naomi Kleins work. nt |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #134 |
146. I got lots of people telling me to read Naomi Klein's work |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. +1000% -- k/r |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. Big K&R! |
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Marblehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. capitalism is ruthless |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Regulating capitalism is like riding the tiger.......... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
87. it sure is a bitch |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
117. Your route leads to the same destination but based on the squeezing mentality of the corporation |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. I think what I think without taking orders from anyone |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #127 |
145. No one is telling you what to think or what you think |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #145 |
147. But multinationals ARE regulated, my friend |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #147 |
201. Regulated by laws they write via lobbyist by captured governments |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
128. Finland, Germany, France, Canada would disagree. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #128 |
148. A fellow regulator, at last. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. On Democracy Now yesterday very knowledgeable folks made the point that the unrest began |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Thank you .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. This regime is a fascist regime, that's all. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R. Yikes! What if the truth spreads? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. K&R |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. +100 |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
22. HUGE K & R !!! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
24. KNR!~ |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
32. REc'd but millions of capitalists will rush to tell you it's not. n/t |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. it's not |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. some people you can't reach... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
67. What we have here is a lot more than simply "a failure to communicate. " n/t |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
97. LOL - no what we have here is someone who is lost. nt |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. recommend |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
38. K & R |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. k&r |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
55. K/R -- |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
89. Another good read here |
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natrlron (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
107. Blame falls more directly on the US |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Blame falls more directly on the hyksos |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
113. k and r for the truth |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
116. . |
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Brilliantrocket (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
118. How can we reconcile capitalism and environmentalism? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. Smile be happy |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #118 |
157. Capitalism is based on exploitation of everything it touches ... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #157 |
174. You are right. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. Eating vegetables isn't exploiting nature -- eating animals is .... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #176 |
200. Where do you get all these slogans? |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #174 |
212. I guess you've never heard of the concept of sustainability. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #212 |
229. Wrong guess |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #229 |
239. I've gotten a pretty good picture of you through your replies to others on this thread, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-11 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
126. Capitalism is evil? ROFL. Tell that to Finland, Sweeden, Canada, France, Germany. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #126 |
149. I'm leaving Venezuela and moving to Europe |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
166. In what sense is Egypt "capitalist"? |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #166 |
173. Exactly, and this is one reason why the Egyptians are revolting |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #166 |
263. How dare you bring facts into this! |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
170. Egyptians Rally Behind Released Google Executive |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. Shake and bake time, tyrants |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. . |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
189. they should be going after the banks and stock markets--the governments are just errand boys |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
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