Is the internet kill switch bill about cyberterrorism or crushing domestic dissent?

[yurbud]

We've seen what the kill switch was used for in Egypt.

Is there any doubt that's not the purpose here, especially when the steaming pile of excrement Joe Lieberman (which "free of man" or "manless") is one of the authors?

[niyad]

1. I think part of the intent is to keep us scared and cowering in fear, knowing they can pull the plug

on us at any minute.

[yurbud]

2. that didn't turn out to well in Egypt. If they flip the switch, it will be like an electric chair

that kills the executioner instead of the condemned.

[Fumesucker]

3. Frank Z sez..

The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.

(We) like to talk about (or be told about) democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it to be an inconvenience. We have opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there.
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry.

[RandomThoughts]

4. I would be very happy to hear they were just now thinking about such a thing.

Since there are a thousand different ways that would actually be far worse if their goal was censorship.

Like making up a story about an internet kill switch legislation. Or creating the legislation as a far position to get a lesser position of control by merger or corporate action in the internet ignored.




They need to make peer to peer networks possible where every router can be a server and a client, that way info can bounce from one computer to any other computer in range if the ISPs were shut down.

[Jackpine Radical]

6. Have you gotten that beer and travel money yet?

[RandomThoughts]

9. Not yet, wonder why that is?

shrug, someone will be sending it, it is due after all.

[Jackpine Radical]

14. You have such a clear vision of the workings of the universe…

No doubt someone will be sending it.

[Jackpine Radical]

5. Domestic dissent IS cyberterrorism.

Peaceniks, Quakers, tree-huggers; those people are DANGEROUS!!11! We need every possible tool to protect ourselves from them.

[RandomThoughts]

8. I can explain why they think that.

Think of the world as teams at war, the teams can be corporate or nations, although they are usually ideologies.

Once you think that is how the world is, then anyone trying to hamper your war effort by trying to show you that there are other ways besides economic domination or war, are called enemies.


The reason the peace supporters and war protesters are called enemies by those that call them things like traitors or on the other side, is because of how they view the world.

They see the conflict as one group against some other group. Peace people see it as against the concept of war and abusive measures and things that create those things as the enemy, not some group of people, but a choice of method used by a side. It is means not ends thinking.


A peace person would protest any wrongful action from their view, but when it is done against what some group thinker is doing, they only see it as a side of a game against their side.


That is why there are so many inconsistent actions about supporting dictators, or supporting some peace movements and not others.

If you think of it as a game with sides, then anyone not for what you think 'the goal' is becomes on the other side.

With us or against us. That is where that is from.

It is pretty simple to understand that mentality.

[RKP5637]

7. None can tell me there is no dark sinister side to this, if not, and if convenient it

will be used as a means of control/intimidation. Good things often end up used for bad things. I wish they were talking more of hardening the Internet against cyberattack than disconnecting it ... to me, those talking of it either don't understand technology and/or want it for sinister reasons.

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

10. It is against Cybertronians

Sorry - it was my first thought and I had to share

[kudzu22]

11. They may really intend it to be used against cyber attacks

but in reality it will be used to suppress information that the powers-that-be don't want circulating.

[inna]

12. It goes without saying. Thanks for the thread/poll.

[Bluebear]

13. +

[yurbud]

15. the DLC unrec'ers are asleep at the switch--only two votes from them.