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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 08:45 PM
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Leading Iowa ‘Family’ Group Compares Homosexuality To ‘Second Hand’ Cigarette Smoke
Leading Iowa ‘Family’ Group Compares Homosexuality To ‘Second Hand’ Cigarette Smoke

Good As You’s Jeremy Hooper has put together a video exposing the anti-gay rhetoric of The Family Leader, a conservative group spearheading the repeal same-sex-marriage campaign in Iowa. The organization’s president, Bob Vander Plaats, has embarked on a 99-county tour in which he presents The Family Leader as a traditional religious group that is more interested in restoring biblical values than slandering gay people. “The Family Leader affirms sexual relations within the bond of marriage, and opposes distortions of sexuality or special rights to those practicing distorted sexual behavior,” the group’s website states.

But as Hooper discovered, a slight alternation of the organization’s website reveals SecondHandEffects.com, a site which describes homosexuality as a public health crisis akin to smoking and endorses discredited ex-gay reversal therapies:

In fact, one doesn’t even have to change the URL or search for the “Second Hand Effects” of same-sex marriage. I signed up for The Family Leader’s email alerts and was taken to this page, which prominently displayed the offending website:

...


SecondCandEffects.com offers the following “facts” about homosexuality:

– Reduces life expectancy by about 20-35 years.

– Homosexuals are 20x more likely to be abused by partner than heterosexual.

– CDC reports cancer rate is 90x higher in homosexual men – while smokers is only 10-30x.

– Yes, they CAN change! (Sept. 1, 2009 NARTH report).

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/04/plaats-smoking/


Idiots. I'll offer them the same thing I do others, with some modifications - I will go into a locked garage with my best friend and chain smoke for 2 hours. Then they can go into a garage with someone, lock themselves in , and run their car for 2 hours. All the while we will have two gay guys go into a garage for 2 hours and do whatever it is they like.

Let's see who comes out of it ok - the car driving fundies, the smokers, or the gays.

Based on their fears/logic we should probably ban all cars right now, and if not ban them then surely we should at the very least preach about how they are killing people and making them sick - but that won't happen because then people could not make it to their church and donate, and folks online could not donate either because the electricity from their online usage is probably generated (or support via routers) on coal burning.

I really don't get the 2nd hand effect people, of any stripe. They preach about how something affects others and how bad it is, how we should ban it, regulate, demonize it (like above), etc and so on - but then they go out and do even worse things that hurt everyone (from global warming to spewing toxic fumes).
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 08:49 PM
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1. I'm so tired of these creepy weirdos bashing gays! They are a bunch of misfits. n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-04-11 08:50 PM by RKP5637
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 08:52 PM
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2. Sorry but... these people are simply fucks
Stupid fucks to be more specific.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 09:44 PM
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3. guns seem to fit their logic also.
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 11:05 PM
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4. My bet is.........
This leader likes to be penetrated in the anus with handcuffs on while gagged. That is the usual case...they are all holier than thou to the public but in private they are the worst perverts alive.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 11:22 PM
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5. Oh, my
:wow:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 11:26 PM
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6. How does one catch the "Second Hand Gay"?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 05:42 AM
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8. I'm guessing it has to do with penises wafting like smoke across the room.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 05:38 AM
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7. Being gay kills 55000 a year...who aren't gay.....ooookayyyyyy nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 05:42 AM
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9. ermm.. second hand smoke is a problem in ENCLOSED public spaces
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 05:43 AM by dmallind
I don't think parking a car inside a restaurant and letting it run is healthy or should be legal either. Smoke outside all you want (just don't litter). Smoke fans always seem to be terrible at analogies. It'll be irrelevancies about fatty foods or alcohol next.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 06:04 AM
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10. The people of Iowa don't need some con-artist
pretend "religious" organization of people afflicted with an intense paranoid psychological disorder to affirm ANYONE's relationship. Nor do the people of Iowa (or any other state, for that matter) need some "Family Leader" to tell them how to live, how to love, and how to honor their spiritual relationships.

Their utter arrogance, and their propensity for promoting fear and evil, already should tell anyone that they are far from a "Christian" organization. If we are going to keep voting on removing the rights of other citizens on the basis of fear-and-smear campaigns, then it is high time they got a taste of their own medicine.

Anyone can make up phony studies, and phony statistics about others in order to demonize them. Surely someone in Iowa is creative enough to start a campaign to strip people affiliated with this cult of evil of the same rights they advocate being stripped from others. But then, no one in the "liberal" media even bothers to question the contradictions in their claims of "religious" belief, so don't hold your breath. Like every other state campaign, the LGBT community will play defense again, scurrying around trying to combat a plethora of deliberate and intentional lies without taking the battle to those who want to strip them of their rights.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 06:35 AM
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11. I wonder if this was conversation at a recent breakfast.
:eyes:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 08:33 AM
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12. Gay people don't give me bronchitis and sinus infections. n/t
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