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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:27 PM
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So the guys who did the horse and camel charge yesterday were really
local vendors who make their living by charging tourists for horse and camel rides. And they were pissed that the protest was hurting their business.

Truth IS stranger than fiction.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:28 PM
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1. link?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:29 PM
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3. +1 Or at the very least some mention of a source. n/t
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:50 PM
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13. digging out the link
At the 1:30 mark here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTIrOnF0scs&feature=related

"we now understand these were workers from the geza (sp?)..."
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:55 PM
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18. Interesting.
BTW, here's an cool tip from youtube videos. If you pause on the place you want to start it, and right click on the video, you can copy the url at that time, like this:):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTIrOnF0scs&feature=player_detailpage#t=82s
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:14 PM
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24. thanks for a great tip
saves buffering all the stuff before it. I note the link has the time in seconds; your link is to the 82 second mark or 1:22.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:29 PM
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2. Indeed. n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:30 PM
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4. actually that makes more sense
it was really weird but that makes more sense than actually planning that up as part of your strategy to stay in office.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:31 PM
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5. Well, any PR is good PR? nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:33 PM
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6. Heh
I don't think they will try that again, do you?

Besides, that sure was an odd way of protesting.

Does anyone else find it odd that too many bystanders complain that protesters for freedom are costing the complainers a few pennies? Is life justl about money for people like that, or what?
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:45 PM
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9. Maybe,just maybe.the vendors need the money to feed their families.
I doubt they are wealthy.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:46 PM
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10. food trumps freedom
.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:50 PM
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12. When those few pennies are the difference
between going hungry or getting some food in your belly...

I take it you've never seen people that close to the edge.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:52 PM
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14. Some of those "complainers" only had a few pennies to
begin with and live day to day.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:03 PM
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21. it most likely meant providing a meal for their family
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:40 PM
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7. I don't know how anyone could have thought that would end well. Camel does not = tank.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-11 10:40 PM by Maru Kitteh
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:41 PM
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8. I heard it on AC360 last night - I think Wedeman said it.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:56 PM
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19. he didn't say they were private businessmen
I got the implication that the animals were from the tourism industry at the pyramids, but not more than that.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:49 PM
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11. Some of the PRO MUBARAK people are for real
but that is not too popular here.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:53 PM
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15. not sure they were pro-Mubarak, maybe just pro-tourist bucks
would be like the Naked Cowboy storming Time Square because ___(insert name of political rally)___ was being held there for too long.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:54 PM
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17. No, you got some people who are deep into the
sytem, and their lives (until now) and livelihood, depend on the patronage system. This is mostly alien to Americans. but Egypt is a place where WHO you know and how you bribed, depends on where or even whether you work. That going down means that people, poor and middle class (The power elites left) are worried about that.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:57 PM
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20. I do wonder why everyone assumes Mubarak would have zero support
in Egypt. Those who prospered under his regime or who are willing to trade freedom for relative stability and safety would logically support him and fear the possible chaos of his ouster.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:54 PM
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16. How do we know the riders were not state employees?
The animals are used in the tourist industry by the pyramids, CNN said. But how do we know who gave the order to ride through the crowd?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:04 PM
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22. local vendors? Kurt they're pulling your leg. The Ministry of the Interior
commandeered the camels and horses but those weren't local vendors riding them. Local vendors don't arm themselves and charge the ranks of demonstrators in a secured area, armed at that. The thug they managed to capture riding one of them had a Ministry of the Interior government ID card, secret police in other words.


Local vendors don't go out of their way to trample Western journalists




This camels and horse business was deliberately calculated to Mubarak to present Egyptians as backwards people who still ride camels. After all the work they did to eradicate that stereotype, Mubarak throws it in.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:10 PM
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23. that just doesn't make any sense
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:23 PM
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25. Maybe this will help, the visuals of people running from secret police riding camels
Edited on Thu Feb-03-11 11:25 PM by Catherina
after the Army let them through the checkpoints.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWvel6Z7qlU&feature=player_embedded#


And if that doesn't, the finer details won't help you either.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:31 PM
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26. maybe you could elaborate on why Mub would want to
embarrass Egypt with a stereotype. I'm not understanding that part either.
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