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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:57 PM
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Awful Amendments: Virginia House Undercuts Legacy Of Religious Liberty
Source: The Wall of Separation
February 2nd, 2011
By Sandhya Bathija.

The Virginia House of Delegates voted yesterday to approve two constitutional amendments that threaten church-state separation: one that promotes prayer in public places, including public schools, and another that permits taxpayer money to fund the religious training and theological education of certain students.

Both of these resolutions, which will move to the Virginia Senate, are contradictory to Jefferson and Madison’s vision for Virginia and the United States. Jefferson and Madison were strong supporters of religious freedom and keeping church and state separate.
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Del. Bill Carrico (R-Grayson County) sponsored HJR 593, which seeks to add a paragraph to the religious freedom section of the Virginia constitution that states, in part, “the people’s right to pray and to recognize their religious beliefs, heritage, and traditions on public property, including public schools, shall not be infringed.” The resolution passed the House by a 61-33 vote.
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Americans United also opposed HJR 614, an amendment to the state constitution that would allow taxes to pay for private religious or theological education for National Guard chaplains.
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LINK: http://blog.au.org/2011/02/02/awful-amendments-virginia-house-undercuts-legacy-of-religious-liberty/
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The theocrats seem unable to be satisfied with the concept of religious FREEDOM.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:00 PM
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1. So this applies to all prayer?
So if Muslims want to put their prayer rugs down in a public place, people in VA will not complain? OR does this only apply to Christian Prayer? I think, they are in for some choppy seas ahead.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:05 PM
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2. I wouldn't count on it
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:09 PM
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3. If this amendment passed, the first thing I'd do if I were Muslim Pagan or some other "questionable"
religion I'd hold a prayer vigil in a public place as often as possible.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:17 PM
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4. Go straight to Satanic prayer.
Let them see what they've stepped in.

(Not that there's anything necessarily so bad about actual Satanism, but it'll freak them out.)
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:37 PM
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5. +1000
Edited on Thu Feb-03-11 02:39 PM by Angry Dragon
If the chaplains don't have enough education then they should not hold the job........
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:38 PM
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7. I believe this has nothing to do with either religious freedom or freedom from religion
Just further attempts to promote the "Christian Nation" agenda.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:37 PM
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6. Yes, should be an interesting lawsuit when, say, Muslim schoolchildren dress or pray accordingly.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:40 PM
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8. No doubt. These are the kinds of laws that, even if evenly applied at the outset
can easily move into the restricted freedom/Christian Nation realm.

The Founders who agreed on religious freedom and Church/State separation had it right.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:45 PM
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9. Sorry, I never knew INDIVIDUALS were NOT allowed to
... pray in public places.

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