Why don't people understand the compassion of the Republicans?

[Jackpine Radical]

Take for instance Paul Ryan's plans to increase taxes on the poor and middle class while reducing the burden on the wealthy.

This is actually a tough-love anti-poverty program. You know how if people don't want you to smoke, they advocate increasing the taxes on cigarettes, right? Well, think about this: By increasing taxes on the poor, they are actually discouraging poverty. Any sensible person will wake up and say, Geez, this poverty business is just getting to expensive. I think I'll get rich instad so I can pay lower taxes." Now, doesn't that seem like a totally brilliant and effective plan with the best interests of the poor at heart?

[librechik]

1. next up: gigantic food taxes

That'll teach them to be unemployed and homeless.

[The Doctor.]

9. Great way to fight obesity!

[RagAss]

2. Yes...the perfect recipe for an uprising that would make Egypt look like a frigging Church Bingo !

[Jackpine Radical]

7. Sumpin tells me Paul Ryan never read Macchiavelli.

Ol' Niccolo knew you had to throw a few bones to the peasants to keep them from acts of desperation.

[ClassWarrior]

3. Cabin fever after a day of blizzard, JR?

:rofl:

It's tough to be a Cheesehead these days.

NGU.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Worse down there than up here.

Actually, we don't really notice winter in these parts. The trick is, first subzero day in November, you run around outside without your hat for a couple of hours & then your cerebral cortex freezes over & you're pretty oblivious to everything until your brain thaws out in mid-June. They don't call us iceheads for nothing.

[blondeatlast]

5. Heritage Foundation on line 1; said you have a bright future and are offering an internship.

:evilgrin:

[JanBrady]

6. It's all a shell game but it's not just Republicans who play it. How many homeowners has Obama's

mortgage program bailed out, compared to the number of bankers?

[Jackpine Radical]

8. Yeah. I know.

But at least he has to violate the traditional values of his party to do it.

*sigh*

[RandomThoughts]

10. Already discussed that.

First that presumes that they can decide what values society should have, and then use some set of punishments to try and get people to be like them.

The general premise on that is that people should 'be some way' and if people are going to hurt people to get them that way, they really should not be deciding how people should be.

That is part of downward spiral, although it can be used to 'tough' people up. If there were not people 'toughening people up' then it would not be needed.

Think of it this way, there are some people that are in hardship doing Job work. If you make it harder on them trying to help them out of that, you are the person they are trying to help by you seeing what you are doing to them, they don't need you to make it harder on them, you are suppose to learn to help them.


As far as tough love, that is an excuse most of the time to do what a person wants anyways, and what if they actually are on the wrong side. So you have to know what is right and wrong to even consider that.

What do most of them think is right. "do what you are told" "work for the economic system, even if it is shown unjust" "make money for them to skim"

it is an invalid argument.

And I am due beer and travel money, they say they might not pay that because I might do things 'still not corrected in their view' I say who are they to claim to know what is better, especially since they can't even understand some of the things some people do. And at the same time while not understanding, some defend an unjust system.

It is ridiculous, but while they are 'tough on me' I will continue to try to be kind to them and explain this stuff to them.

:loveya:


What if people working 4 hours a day, and having enough production for everyone, and time to think and feel, and not large discrepancies in wealth was actually the way things are suppose to be. Then those lazy people spending time learning and sharing with friends might actually be doing what they are suppose to be doing. I do understand enabling, but you should be able to argue it and teach it, not just hit them till they do what they are told to do, like many that do that stuff do.


Or to make it easier, beating a person to get them to work for you, and make money for you, or to think like you do. Is not love. That is desire for control or power.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. More random thoughts…

Who owes you beer and travel money? Travel to where? How much beer do you consume? Is your beer made by mean fascists such as the Coors family or by more gentle fascists like the Leinenkugel family? Do any of the people for whom the beer brands are named still have anything to do with making the beer? Should DU take up a collection to reimburse you for beer and travel money?

[Fumesucker]

Right up there with taxing poor people who don't buy health insurance..

[Fumesucker]

12. Dupe.. Self delete..