DHS: The Department of Homeland Stealing (Safe Deposit Boxes,etc..)

[indimuse]

Source: DEMOCRATIC WATCHDOG

U.S DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS TOLD BANKS - IN WRITING - IT MAY INSPECT SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES WITHOUT WARRANT AND SIEZE ANY GOLD, SILVER, GUNS OR OTHER VALUABLES IT FINDS INSIDE THOSE BOXES!

According to in-house memos now circulating, the DHS has issued orders to banks across America which announce to them that "under the Patriot Act" the DHS has the absolute right to seize, without any warrant whatsoever, any and all customer bank accounts, to make "periodic and unannounced" visits to any bank to open and inspect the contents of "selected safe deposit boxes."

Further, the DHS "shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence" any of the following items "bar gold, gold coins, firearms of any kind unless manufactured prior to 1878, documents such as passports or foreign bank account records, pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature."

Read more: http://democraticwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/02/dhs-department-of-homeland-stealing.html

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ugh.. :eyes:

[defendandprotect]

1. Either they're insane or we are -- which is it?

[skoalyman]

4. they're insane

dude wheres my freedoms, I want them back:argh:

[defendandprotect]

6. Love it when Obama talks about democracy ... where is it?

[harmonicon]

34. They aren't mutually exclusive. nt.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. Ooooh! Ooooh! I know!

:hide:

[safeinOhio]

2. Safe now has for sale

Mason jars and shovels.

[cutlassmama]

3. The police state knocking on everyone's doors now

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. Another illusion shattered.

"Safe" deposit=oxymoron.

[Taverner]

7. If you want something safe, buy your own safe

Seriously

[doc03]

8. Don't the Feds also have the right to search and seize any

contraband in your home without a warrant?

[Taverner]

15. Yep. PATRIOT act solidified that practice

This actually, is nothing new

[Fuddnik]

16. Not according to the fourth amendment.

However that's all been turned on it's head with all sorts of SC rulings to help cops do their jobs better. It's pretty specific, and there's really nothing to interpret, unless you're a fascist judge.


Fourth Amendment - Search and Seizure

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[doc03]

23. Didn't the Patriot Act pretty much nullify all those pesky

rights thingies.

[Taverner]

38. Yep

But we would never know

Well, now they're just being blatant about it

[Fuddnik]

9. Why not just declare martial law and be up front about it.

Freedom my ass.

[niyad]

17. because if they declared martial law outright, there probably would be an uprising. incrementally

destroying what is left of our freedoms operates like the frog in boiling water experiment.

[lovuian]

10. lets face it they want all assets

and want to own all of it

[northernlights]

11. passports are contraband?

Sheesh. Glad I traded my safe deposit box in for a home safe a decade ago...wouldn't want someone to take my contraband birth certificate.

[RKP5637]

12. Have we gone over the top or what. n/t

[glinda]

13. Ugh is right. Am going to ask my parents what they have in theirs.

[Taverner]

14. Despite this story being true, Dem Watchdog is a RW Orephile (goldbug) site

Spewing pure Glenn Beckery

This story is pause for thought, however - but nothing new. DHS had these powers ever since the PATRIOT act passed. We are just seeing the tip of the iceburg now.

[RKP5637]

21. See #19, is this just a variation of that one? n/t

[Jefferson23]

18. Oh goodie, just think how much safer we'll be now!!!!!!!! n/t

[RKP5637]

19. False? Is this possibly a variation on this one that was false?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/safedeposit.asp

[niyad]

22. of course, that was updated last five years ago. who knows what has gone on in the meantime.

the really sad thing is that, true or not, we have seen so much crap from our govt that nothing would surprise us anymore.

[RKP5637]

26. I'm getting so cynical about everything. What was outrageous a few years ago is now just

standard gov. stuff. It's more than a little concerning as to where we are headed.

[Taverner]

27. Yes its a false rumor and Dem Watchdog is Alex Jones-stye Crazy

But do not think that this could not happen - law enforcement already can do this, and has been doing this for some time

[RKP5637]

29. Yeah, so true. I used to think there was a line to cross, but anymore that line has

been obliterated and more so each day. It's creepy.

[niyad]

20. if I remember correctly, the internment of the japanese-americans was also a major land and property

grab (just like the inquisition)

[Old Codger]

24. Not sure

If you have a safe deposit box and lose the key the bank has to drill the lock out, supposedly there are only the 2 keys yours and the banks. If this is true they would have t drill them open which ruins the box and banks charge a few hundred dollars to do the...


BUT.......check this out

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/safedeposit.asp

[Demeter]

25. If the US Didn't have a history of doing all this and more

1. shooting peaceful demonstrating college students dead in the street.
2. torture and extraordinary rendition
3. murder without trial of US citizens as well as foreigners in foreign lands
4. confiscation of gold and raiding safe deposit boxes
5. internment of US citizens based on genetic traits, political leanings, and other mass characteristics

then we could all laugh and sleep sweet and secure at night....

[ixion]

28. the unPATRIOTic Act is unconstitutional, and should be repealed

and this is a great example of why.

[TalkingDog]

30. Copy of the Memo? Otherwise: Calling Bullshit on Watchdog n/t

[davidinalameda]

33. thank you

wonder if is some more infowars type bullshit

and it's from a freaking blog-not a news source

[Gregorian]

31. I shouldn't take a HItler or Stalin to wake people up. This is pathetic.

It's as if Americans don't have the slightest idea what World War 2 was about. At least nominally. They just ushered it in with Bush. Twice. Like completely blind idiots.

But then it's no different than global warming. And in that comparison, almost everyone is doing what the Bush voters did. Living life in their own worst interest. Not changing. Not being vigilant. Not asking questions about what is best, and what alternatives there are, and what others have done in similar circumstances.

[Warren DeMontague]

41. I know. Blind Idiots who reflexively believe everything they read.

Really, that's the problem with this country.

[bhikkhu]

32. There's more to that than the article offers

...in fact, the article is more the sort of out-of-context scaremongering that you find in RW chain emails than it is journalism. How about looking into the text of the act, and the purpose behind it, and the restrictions on its use?

[namahage]

35. Didn't know that the US Government can dictate who a private bank can fire.

DHS memos also state that banks are informed that any bank employee, on any level, that releases "improper" "classified DHS Security information" to any member of the public, to include the customers whose boxes have been clandestinely opened and inspected and "any other party, to include members of the media" and further "that the posting of any such information on the internet will be grounds for the immediate termination of the said employee or employees and their prosecution under the Patriot Act." Safety deposit box holders and depositors are not given advanced notice when failed banks shut their doors.

[kudzu22]

36. Sounds like paranoid teabaggery to me

despite it being called "Democratic Watchdog". No links, no sources, just rumors. I'll be the first to admit that DHS oversteps its authority regularly, but opening safe deposit boxes without a warrant -- I don't see it happening.

I'm kinda curious how they'd open it without my key -- they going to pick it or drill out the lock?

[librechik]

37. Arrr, they'll nivver get me gold

I keep it in a dirty sock under the bed, not a bank. Arrrr.....

[Toon Me Out]

39. shut

them down. they're bloated pork looking for a reason to exist.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. DEBUNKED BY SNOPES IN 2006. nt

[uppityperson]

42. dang, shouldve checked and UNREC'd. Thanks warren

[indimuse]

43. debunked by a BOA Branch manager..

ok...

[indimuse]

44. snopes!

n army of two, that is. Snopes’s world headquarters is actually just Barbara and David sitting around their modest double-wide on a shady hillside outside Los Angeles. Their two home offices are stacked to the ceiling with their trusty research tools: dictionaries, almanacs, VHS tapes, Disneyana, encyclopedias, atlases, and hundreds of books like UFO’s: A Scientific Debate and Organ Theft Legends. Oh, and there are cats: Buster, Sterling, Irene, Ashes, and Memphis. “David and I work at opposite ends of the house,” Barbara says, flinging a cat’s crinkle toy. “I once attempted to send him a note by sticking a Post-it on the side of one of the cats.”

Cat couriers? Sounds like a case for Snopes. Strange rumors about animals are among the website’s most popular cases. That widely circulated photograph of Hercules, a 282-pound mastiff with “paws the size of softballs,” is one example.
;)

[Warren DeMontague]

45. Whereas the sourcing on this story is clearly unimpeachable, right?

Sorry. My bad. Yes, by all means, continue freaking out.



ZOMG ZOMG DHS HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHIT DHS DHS CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!

[indimuse]

47. chill baby chyll..

no freakage here...but..RE SNOPES::
<snip> Though the Mikkelsons are established figures on the Web, they still prefer old-fashioned research—scouring vintage catalogs, thumbing through four newspapers a day—over finding quick answers online. “I might use Google or Wikipedia as a starting point,” David says. “But that’s not research.” For fun, the Mikkelsons go to places like the Coca-Cola museum in Atlanta and the Library of Congress.

it's all about awareness..pay attention... hehehhe..

[Warren DeMontague]

48. Either the story is bullshit, or it isn't.

Personally, if I posted an OP containing a story that was roundly exposed as urban legend/Alex Jones paranoia, I would apologize and ask the mods to lock it.

I dunno. I'm funny about "facts", that way. :shrug: