a friend has turned me onto this conservative political blog

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http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2011/02/01/the-democracy-promotion-fetish/

and one thing the egyptian and tunisian revolutions do is bring us back around to the neoconservatives again --

the title of the article:

The Democracy Promotion Fetish

and this from his comments section

'Over the last twenty years, the push for democracy promotion and the perpetuation of U.S. hegemony have gone hand in hand. It isn’t an accident that many of the most ideological supporters of so-called “benevolent global hegemony” are also sympathizing with the fall of Mubarak. Embracing regime change in Egypt in the hope that it will contribute to the weakening of U.S. hegemony, as some people seem to want t do, seem not to notice that many of the hegemonists are mostly content with what is happening. Indeed, the emergence of an Egyptian government that is actively opposed to the U.S. is useful to them, as it gives them another threat to over-hype and vilify. If someone could persuade me that political change in Egypt could affect U.S. policies overseas for the better, I might at least see the potential virtues of it, but I haven’t heard anything that persuades me yet.'


there are conservatives who are anti-empire -- and who can provide an interesting insight
as to how they think.
we have established quite a long history with this american empire business -- unraveling ourselves from it will be tricky --
and given the neoconservative urge to promote hysteria -- it's going to be interesting.

my feeling is that if a government is elected -- it's not up to us to like ot or not.
it's up to our government to DEAL with it.
even entities like hamas -- they were elected -- DEAL with them and stop thwarting the people.

oh and mind our own business to boot.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. here is what the neocons miss

albeit yes, they are applauding (San Señor yesterday for example)... and I can't blame them since they never got it. WIth this comes quite the loss of soft power. Ok, soft power is that nudging we can do behind the scenes... and that is going, ok gone. We can get it (some of it) back. But it will take diplomacy. Neo Cons do not understand this.

[librechik]

2. That's Pat Buchanan's operation. At least they take some care to be logical

in their tin foil hattery. Don't be fooled by the occasional sane and rational articla at American Conservative. They are still evil union busters who want to kick grandma off social security.

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3. i tend NEVER to listen or read anything from conservatives.

i had enough when years ago i sometimes watched buckley on tv.

that being said -- occasionally some one like this guy says something interesting -- and he references the wilsonian era for
a base for the neocons. i give him props for being accurate there.

[walldude]

4. Apparent;y the only "good" Democracy

is one brought on by US military action.

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5. that why i like the use of the word 'fetish' --

the neocons use everything and the kitchen sink to promote their notion of empire.