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Segami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:18 PM Original message |
Is This HOW We Treat Our FEMALE SOLDIERS? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, it is. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Please, do not not broad-brush smear the entire military like that. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Murder is not the norm, but if what precipitated this is what I think it is... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Have you spent any time in the military? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. 4 years active duty army...I was a medic... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I do not mean to sound like I am questioning your right to speak on this. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It is a huge problem...over a third of all woman in the military...all the branches... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. It's a big enough problem that I have a hard time recommending the Army |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I got so much out of my active duty time... |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Advise them with the truth. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Coercion is rape. You were raped. I'm so sorry that happened to you. n/t |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. If you really spent 22 years in... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. No, my eyes were wide open. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Since most of us who are victims choose to hide that fact, it probably is worse than you know...but |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Women are usually intimidated to keep silent... |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. In my case, it was a desire not to appear damaged and in need of counseling... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. tail hook, best example of this in the USN |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. It does happen, but I did not miss it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. How many soldiers in the military ... ? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Exactly ... and too much is going on in this right wing/privatized military to |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. werent you on scorpios thread arguing girls/women are not regularly harrassed on street with comment |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Except for the discrimination and discharging people for their |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I'm a vet, too...and I can confirm that women are not treated very well within the Army as a whole. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oh, yeah, and I was raped by a fellow officer. Never reported it due to fear it would |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. I used to be a cop. Same thing on the blue line. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Female cops are rated very highly -- more effective in calming things down ... |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Of course there is always one exception to the rule. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It may not be the norm...but if it happens it shouldn't be covered up. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Agreed. Offenders and those that do try to cover it up need to prosecuted |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Tell that to the raped women at the Air Farce Academy! |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. MAybe not but sweeping shit under carpets sure is. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. Her gender is irrelevant. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It's only a distraction if there weren't a clear pattern emerging. (eom) |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. gender is the key though |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Sad, but very true. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. No -- in our military GENDER -- like sexual orientation -- is still relevant ... |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. Accusing a murder victim of suicide is unspeakably vile. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. +100 |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
30. This is apparently |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
31. Really, this is how we treat all our soldiers |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is how this country treats women, period. |
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PinkTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
38. I was in the Army in the late 60s and early 70s |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. {{{{{{{{{Pink Tiger}}}}}}}}}}}}}} |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. "Our society makes this possible" yes... nt |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. (((((PinkTiger)))))) I hear you, sister. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Reading all of this, and my own experiences, make me want to ask...do women count? Are |
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