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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:16 PM
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Glenn and Rush - what the hell?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/01/limbaugh-obama-pharaoh-egypt_n_816899.html
Rush Limbaugh referred to President Obama as a "pharaoh" while speaking about the Egyptian revolution on his Monday show.

Had President Bush still been in office, he said, everyone would be asking why Bush hadn't seen the uprising coming.

"Well, the same question needs to be asked about Pharaoh Obama," he said. "Why didn't the Pharaoh see this coming, particularly given his wonderful relationship with this regimes and their people?..."

And from Beck -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/01/glenn-beck-compares-obama-to-mubarak_n_817208.html

"Did anyone notice the remarkable statements from the President last week where the President was saying, 'look, as long as people are peacefully assembling, they have the right to speak and the government should listen to them?' When he's saying that, all I can think of is the speech where he's walking around going, 'and they're carrying tea bags,' and mocking the American people. And then, while they're pushing for an Internet kill switch for the president that does not have judicial review...he's telling Mubarak, 'anyone who's trying to control the radio, television, and Internet, that's the sign of a dictator.' Come on."


Am I the only one that sees this as a message to the teabaggers? Maybe, but I wouldn't put it past them.

I know I am not the only one that thinks these two are fucking NUTS!

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:17 PM
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1. There is a danger to letting anyone and everyone
Say anything and everything they care to, and on air.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:23 PM
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2. I agree!!!
we need censors!!!!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:26 PM
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4. I don't know about censors, but there has to be some standards put in place.
They are inciting violence in these statements.

And they seem to do that constantly to where there are threats documented.

It just doesn't seem right that they should be able to get away with their constant lying and hate speech.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:37 PM
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7. Who determines "lies and hate speech"?
Think about that for a minute. Depending on the censor, that could apply to anyone who expresses a point of view.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:56 PM
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9. I have thought about it. A lot.
And often. And yes, I do understand that freedom of speech is A Very Good Thing....for the most part. That for the most part ends, however, when you have lunatics on the radio and television spouting lies and fomenting hatred to the susceptible and the ignorant.

Taking that further, I firmly believe that's how the religious right got a foothold; well, the constant repetition on air and the lack of countervailing voices has led to a real disconnect between how people feel and how they think, if they think at all. It's a bit scary....
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:10 PM
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10. I can see you have given this deep thought...
and decided that other folks rights end when you decide what is just too naughty for their sensitive ears. Lemme guess, its because they're not like you with a big 'ol brain. They are the "susceptible and the ignorant." Thank God they've got a great mind like you to decide what is truth and what is just too extreme.

Seriously though, folks with a mindset like this are f'ing scary...
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 12:14 AM
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12. Um...seriously? I don't agree with what Beck says, and some of his stuff is pretty hateful, but in
the above quote I can't think of a "standard" that could be applied to Beck that couldn't be applied to the left at some point or another.

"If we don't believe in free expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."--Noam Chomsky, a very wise man.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:27 PM
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11. I have thought about that alot also & think the line is when hate talk leads to action.
As in "Tiller the baby killer".

Or when someone plots murder and states Glenn Beck as their inspiration, as in Williams.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010110030

And there is Frances Fox Piven
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/30/frances-fox-piven-glenn-beck

When words turn into violence and/or threats, that's when there needs to be a concern.
From whom? I don't know. You would hope it would come from the person that pays their salary, but that isn't going to happen when it comes to Rush and Beck, O'Reilly.

It's a fine line. No one is denying that.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:23 PM
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3. Remember when Pigboy had to pop extra Oxys when anyone criticized
a "war President"?

Sometimes I believe that Limbaugh, Beck and O'Reilly are tolerated because they are so batshit crazy that the corporatist BS we are being fed by both parties these days seems reasonable and sane in comparison.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:26 PM
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5. Too bad we can't get him to pop valium instead.
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Toon Me Out Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:32 PM
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6. Rushman
always needs a Boy Flatulent
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:39 PM
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8. I'm sorry, I can't follow the fractured logic
of either one of them. Maybe I don't know all the code words to fire the right nodes in my brain.
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