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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:18 PM
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EGYPT
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 12:17 AM by kentuck
It sounds so ancient. The land of pyramids and mummies and some of the earliest relics known to man on this planet. Such an historical place. Where is the appreciation?

We must, as part of humankind, protect and preserve this part of the world. It is important. We must work with the people of Egypt to restore and protect this history. It must not be destroyed or looted.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:20 PM
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1. Damn right! Those are OUR tourist spots
:eyes:

Shouldn't we, 'as part of humankind,' be a little more interested in preserving and protecting our working class brothers and sisters across the globe?
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:21 PM
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3. it's OK to be concerned with all aspects of the situation :D
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:00 AM
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16. +1 n/t
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:24 PM
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4. Snark much?
... You should see that protection of brothers and sisters come in many flavors., all things beginning at home. That's what I think the intent of the post was... before you blew your nose on it.

Don't let the message get lost... Let's do what we can however we can. At least we are talking about it!
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:31 PM
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8. Usually much more. We should send in troops to protect King Tut
You do realize that Egyptians themselves have been working to protect their own public places, yes?

Not sure what they really 'need' us for
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:57 PM
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15. No...
You certainly are NOT sure what they really 'need' us for, that's for certain.

I'm done with this...
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:01 AM
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17. +1 n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:27 PM
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5. False dichotomy.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:21 PM
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2. +1
I've always wanted to visit... would be a shame if it's never a safe place again to visit. Like Iraq/Iran... tremendous history that I'd love to see.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:29 PM
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6. I don't know the validity of my comment, but earlier today someone told me that
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 11:35 PM by RKP5637
Mubarak could care less about the antiquity of Egypt. If valid, that would be a horrific commentary on him and the current situation.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:05 AM
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19. There have been a lot of things atributed to him, some true and some not true. I don't think this
comment of yours has much validity. If he didn't care, the antiquities ould have been gone years ago.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:49 AM
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24. Yep, I agree! Thanks! n/t
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:31 PM
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been "destroyed" and looted from the beginning
relax
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:31 PM
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7. Good Blog from an Egyptologist
About the looting damage and the courageous Egyptians who are protecting the Egyptian Museum.

http://www.eloquentpeasant.com/
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:40 PM
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9. Thank you for this post! n/t
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:45 PM
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10. great info thanks nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:46 PM
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11. "the looting of the museum was an inside job by guards and police"
UPDATE, 30th Jan 4:30pm:
Zeit Online (in German and translated into English) has posted an interview with Wafaa el-Saddik, the director of the Egyptian Museum up until very recently, who says that 13 cases have been smashed, some objects have definitely been stolen, the looting of the museum was an inside job by guards and police, and that the museum in Memphis has also been looted.



With all of the ongoing change happening in Egypt right now, there is the danger that what has existed there for millennia could be lost in just a moment. While the people have been fearlessly standing up and making their voices heard, the fire and chaos in Cairo has been threatening the Museum of Egyptian Antiquities. Reports coming in via Twitter told of the protestors forming an incredible human chain around the museum to protect it until the army could come to take over.


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:50 PM
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12. It is not about just Americans or Egyptians...
The "human chain" to protect the antiquities was for all of us, as brothers and sisters on this earth.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:54 PM
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13. I'm sure that's what they were thinking at the time
a real 'We Are The World' moment no doubt
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:56 PM
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14. Maybe they didn't need to be thinking that?
Maybe it was just an instinctual reaction? Never mind. I'm probably not making any sense, even to myself?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:06 AM
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20. This is only speculation and it can not be confirmed. n/t
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:02 AM
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18. other countries should return
antiquities that have been stolen, and smuggled out of Egypt for over a century. Egypt has been fighting for years to get them to return their treasures.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:07 AM
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22. True. n/t
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:07 AM
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21. Actually The oldest civilization relics come from Sumeria in modern day Iraq
It's known as Mesopotamia which means land between the rivers (The Tigris and Euphrates rivers)and Sumer, the first known civilization was around 6000 BC. This area is known as the Cradle of Civilization.

The Old Kingdom of Egypt was around 3000 BC. Ancient Egypt lasted until Rome conquered it around 35 BC.

You are right, though, that Egypt has been continuously in existence for thousands of years. I imagine the Egyptians must feel quite rooted there because of it. By contrast, non Native Americans have been around since 1600 when Jamestown was the first English settlement. Non Native Americans have been here for only 500 years, and the United States as a country is only around 230 years old.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 12:18 AM
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23. That is true.
Thanks.

I edited a couple of words to make the post more factual.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 01:51 PM
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25. We're all Egyptians now.
Last week we hadn't a clue.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 01:53 PM
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26. Wiff
and poof.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 01:55 PM
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27. Certainly a concern, but more saddened by the loss of life... n/t
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