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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:22 PM Original message |
This tax bill is irrational from all rational points of view |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. the Deficit! the Deficit! the Deficit!!! forget the Unemployed and the Middle Class |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Do you understand what I posted? |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. this bill was the only way to get Unemployment Insurance extended. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. No it wasn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Appeals To Authority as a basis for debate only work when one is actually an authority on the |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. So, let's get this straight. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I must say the history of labor I am working on |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. The OP was attacked directly as 'not an authority'. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. And I will provide right now a link to my thesis |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Exactly. And what's with the "deficit = doomsday" shit? |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. they'll use any ammunition they can get. doesn't matter if it came from the enemy. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. No it was not nt. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. Wrong |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. Trickle Down. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It did not work for Grant, Hoover or Reagan, or Bush jr. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. what is so trickledown about Middle Class tax cuts and Unemployment Insurance??? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Let me think: Estate Horseshit and "Sorry You Slipped Through The Cracks." |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. how does either of those negate UI and Middle Class Tax Cuts??? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Wow! |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. what does that even mean?? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I quote: |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. you mentioned them. I just stated that tax cuts for the rich don't negate the positive aspects. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. I've got a great response: |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. do you care to explain? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Exactly. What part of compromise is so hard for people to grasp? |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I don't know if the problem is comprehension or hardheadedness. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is a great post and echoes my sentiments exactly |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. If we are indeed "an empire in decline," then adding |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. It does becuase it reinforces policies that are destroying this country |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. you get it, good. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Reagan's policies were destroying the country as well, running deficits like crazy. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. The denial part is also part of it |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Another part of it is not being able to tell victory from defeat. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's irrational even from irrational points of view. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. ;Exactly, like the adventure in Vietnam was for France |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. I might -- MIGHT -- have supported -- |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Alas a WPA would have produced the jobs |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Batshit insane. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Why I said only when you look at this as part of the end |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. I find it amazing that Republicans ran for 2 years on the enormity |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. This will not end well |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Both will be equally responsible. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Oh I am not ready to predict what will happen |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Don't worry. They can legitimately claim this was a Democratic Party approved deficit explosion |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yes they can claim it. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
38. WOW I think I hit a nerve |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. DEFICIT. DEFICIT. DEFICIT. Any economist will tell you in a recession the MOST important thing ... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Actually what they will tell you, and you are being quite disengenous |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Tax cuts to the poor & middle class are stimulative. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. SHHH continuing the SAME TAX vacation |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. At least educate yourself. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. You mean the SAME tax cut we have had in effect for ten years? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. False |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I guess so is Krugman |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. not enough not enough not enough |
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soryang (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I agree with some of your points but... |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. First, politics isn't a rational process. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. And in Empires in decline |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
62. Bush cut taxes way back when there was a surplus. n/t |
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