Modern day "republicans" are radicals

[nadinbrzezinski]

time to realize this, and to call them for what they are.

They do not believe in any form of government. In fact, to them the best government actually... is no government.

This is not about drowning it in a bathtub, is about getting rid of it.

Now, what exactly does that fit the definition off? Oh yes.. ANARCHISM.

Here you go...

Anarchism is a political philosophy which considers the state undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful, and instead promotes a stateless society, or anarchy.<1><2> It seeks to diminish or even abolish authority in the conduct of human relations.<3> Anarchists widely disagree on what additional criteria are required in anarchism. The Oxford Companion to Philosophy says, "there is no single defining position that all anarchists hold, and those considered anarchists at best share a certain family resemblance."<4>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

See, it is important to actually call a spade, well a spade.

It is worst than that. In the myths they love to follow, with the fervor of the old time religion, they believe the Founders of this country were Anarchists as well.

Oh never mind that they set a limited federal government, (no the Feds did not become as powerful as they did until the 20th century), that was the government of WE THE PEOPLE. Granted, who was included was a tad more limited than today. But realize, in their religious fervor... they do NOT believe in government, not even the limited form that Jefferson envisioned.

They are radicals. We are facing radicals. And until people finally get this through their heads... we will see leaders trying to negotiate with RADICALS.

[Hardrada]

1. The division has been libertarian anarchists (Max Stirner fans)

and anarcho-syndicalists (The IWW, the Spanish CNT & FAI). I would go with the anarcho-syndicalists who hoped to build "a new society in the shell of the old.").

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I am talking about right now

the tea party is an anarchist movement.. Ryan last night, that was an anarchist response... we need to finally call them what they are. A RADICAL movement.

[Hardrada]

18. The Spanish anarchists still exist. Their predecessors were

perhaps more radical. We still have an IWW too which is trying to unionize Starbuck's. I think that it is indeed correct to call the libertarians radicals. I have been arguing with them for years and am surprised they have pushed their agenda so far. Well, not so surprised when I found out about the corporate backing.

[annabanana]

3. I think they are nihilists... The world is ending anyway. The only way we can hang

on is to make sure we are wa-a-a-ay richer than anyone else.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Some are, but the end of timers are not the majority

Problem is that at the policy level the result is the same... pot holes will be there, bad schools, people in the streets, no safety net.

[markpkessinger]

5. You're right, but ...

I come from a long line of Republicans (I am the blacksheep Democrat in the family ;)). I can tell you that among the rank and file of the GOP, there is a kind of willful denial about just how far over the cliff the party's leadership has gone. They simply do not, or will not, see it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. I realize that too

I have had a few ahem interesting talks with Ike (as in very old) GOP fans that will vote for the GOP no matter what.

I have proven to them repeatedly how much their party left them behind five presidents ago. As you said, denial is deep...

[patrice]

7. "Jesus plus nothing" is being installed in our state, proof that you are right.

Excellent point. Thanks! I will use it every time I use the word Republican.

[Ozymanithrax]

8. I've come to the conclusion that Republicans don't really know what they advocate...

Examining what they say indicates they are anarchists advocating a statelessness. The ultimate result of the state they claim to want to create would be Anarchist in nature. But, from the Oxford Concise Dictionary of Politics, they say Anarchism is "The view that society can and should be organized without a coercive state." (Page 10) Anarchists themselves could never come up with a single cogent theory of what an anarchist state would be. (No big surprise there.) But Republicans are certainly not advocating a non-coercive state. These people just never stop to ask what an ever smaller government would be. When they get in power, the advocate very close state control. They are bipolar anarchists.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Yes they are also authoritarian

check that dictionary for what Bakunin understood as an anarchist state... yes the irony drips

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

Oh and the average Republican FOLLOWER and a few of the leaders would go... Ba... WHAT? That is a dang furiegn name there!

[RagAss]

13. It's not that. It's just that they can't publicly state what they are....

Racists who are freaking out over a President who isn't a middle aged white man !

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. The radicalism goes to well before BO became even

a State Senator... but to Clinton. It just gotten that much more obvious.

[Bonobo]

9. Yes. And modern day "Democrats" are generally "Republicans". Sad.nt

[LuvNewcastle]

11. I totally agree.

I don't refer to Republicans as conservatives. I call them teabaggers or right-wingers. Conservatives are resistant to change, but today's Republicans want radical change. Democrats should be spreading the message that these radicals want to privatize all the government services and institutions that we rely on, make us rely even more heavily on large corporations, and take away the small amount of control that we have over our government. The proposals of the Republican Party should scare the hell out of any American, and all Democrats have to do is tell the truth about them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Problem is that some of our own side

have joined in that "revolution" as well. It is the new zeitgeist in DC, I fear.

It is up to us... and it is up to us to follow the example of at least seven countries so far, to have major demonstrations. That won't happen until people have lost a lot more though

[Gato Moteado]

14. modern day republicans are.....

....human garbage.

[ulaes]

16. I don't understand how someone can claim to be liberal/progressive

and make such a statement. You'll be hard pressed to find any of us who agree exactly on the degree to which government should control individuals and corporations. But those who you strongly disagree with are human garbage? That is a terrible thing to say.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. That is the level of polarization in this country

equivalent to 1859...

[Gato Moteado]

19. you betcha

nt

[Ishoutandscream2]

20. I can

[Gato Moteado]

21. Thank you!

I knew I wasn't alone.