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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:29 PM
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It's not good enough. You are not working as hard as you need to. By the way you are on your own too
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 09:29 PM by Safetykitten
The State of The Union 2011.

You need to work harder, longer for less. You need to get education on things that we will outsource. We will not support you. The corporations need help. You need to help them. Help them make money or else. The economy is back. Wall Street is safe. We must cut costs. We must stop spending money. We need to spend money smarter.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:30 PM
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1. ????? n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:27 PM
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14. I remember when Nixon and the like used to say this. It was hated
then. My how times change. we're not excelling because we're lazy, not doing it right, need to pull ourself up, etc.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:55 PM
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18. Find the quote where Obama said we are lazy or are not working hard enough
That's why I found the OP to be so mystifying. A bunch of made up stuff that wasn't said.
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Foo Fighter Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:05 AM
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19. Sounds like you need to get with the program.
When Nixon and his ilk said things like that, it was bad. When Obama says it, it's inspirational.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:48 AM
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21. Paul Ryan (R- Asshole) said that kind of shit, not Obama. See Ryan quote:
We are at a moment, where if government's growth is left unchecked and unchallenged, America's best century will be considered our past century. This is a future in which we will transform our social safety net into a hammock, which lulls able-bodied people into lives of complacency and dependency.

==============================================

Ryan's the one claiming people are lazy and complacent.

Obama said nothing of the sort.

Honestly OP is not a bad summary of Ryan's Response
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:50 AM
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23. BWAHA! Foo fighter, truer words never spoken.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:37 PM
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2. You forgot the call to “our college campuses to open their doors to our military recruiters & ROTC"
“I call on all of our college campuses to open their doors to our military recruiters and the ROTC," Obama said in the address. "It is time to leave behind the divisive battles of the past. It is time to move forward as one nation.”

I find the whole thing frankly unbelievable.

Rec'd
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:41 PM
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3. You forgot that Harvard, Yale, etc. kicked recruiters off campus because of DADT
The statement had a context.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:05 PM
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7. That's incorrect emulatorloo. They never kicked out ROTC. ROTC withdrew on their own
ROTC never passed academic muster for $50,000 year Ivy League Universities. This all started back in the Vietnam war days before DADT was ever an issue.



in all my research on the subject, I have found no universities that ban R.O.T.C., nor has the military initiated action against any institution for banning the program. We have grown accustomed to saying there are bans only because it fits with the assumption that certain colleges are unfriendly to the military.

It is true that many Ivy League colleges do not have R.O.T.C. detachments today. Forty years ago, the military started to close detachments in the Northeast and establish programs in the West and South.

This shift stems from a disagreement in the late 1960s between the Ivy League colleges and the military. Should R.O.T.C. have to comply with the host college’s rules for academic course content and professor qualifications? R.O.T.C. said no, colleges said yes, and the two had to agree to disagree. R.O.T.C. then walked away from Northeastern campuses.

While Harvard is often described as “expelling” R.O.T.C. in 1969, the story is more nuanced. After the military refused to meet Harvard’s standards on academic coursework, the faculty voted to relegate the program to an extracurricular activity, and the military decided to leave. But Harvard did not abolish the program, and it was only much later that people began to talk of a ban.

...

Diane H. Mazur, a professor of law at the University of Florida and a former Air Force officer, is the legal co-director of the Palm Center at the University of California at Santa Barbara and the author of “A More Perfect Military.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/opinion/25Mazur.html?_r=1
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:43 AM
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20. Thanks for that article I appreciate it! n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:27 PM
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15. decisive battles of the past like putting the bushies in jail.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:51 PM
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4. Where do the salmon fit in here?
BTW I agree with your synopsis.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:08 PM
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8. Like some salmon you're smoked! nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:54 PM
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5. Could you please provide the quotes from SOTU which are the basis of your synopsis? nt
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:03 PM
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6. probably the best recap I've read yet.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:49 AM
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22. Yes if you like things that are completely made up.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:10 PM
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9. ...and we want the republicans to help plan your future......K&R
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:12 PM
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10. And don't forget how wonderful Race to the Top is!!!
Leading off the speech with that fallacy really pissed me off.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:20 PM
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11. Good. I'm not the only one who thought this.
Basically said to embrass servitude.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:22 PM
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12. Didn't you post a similar "interpretation" last night?
What translation filter are you using?

:eyes:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:50 AM
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24. Love all the "me too's" and recs on something that is a total fabrication.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:23 PM
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13. What planet was that on?
I heard no such thing.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:51 AM
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25. Well it is sorta describes Paul Ryan's speech. But it doesn't have anything
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 12:52 AM by emulatorloo
to do with Obama's speech.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:31 PM
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16. Clean coal, baby!
And if that doesn't work, unicorn farts.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:42 PM
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17. At some point, you'll recall hearing that he'll veto earmarks, right?
Well... a lot of this stuff effects what comes in to each state through our individual "grants" or walking around money, or whatever you want to call the pocket change that state senators dole out to municipalities. Some of us need grants to assist with the curb appeal of our communities, some of the local family run pools could use some of this to keep afloat so that the kids have something to do, come summer, sometimes residents want help with beautification of their street entrance.... That well would dry up, also.

We must start realizing that a college degree hasn't really been the "leg up" to the age old problem of the labor movement.

He's out of touch and he needs to be given the elbow really, really hard.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:53 AM
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26. You are confused. The guy who gave that speech was Paul Ryan.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:04 AM
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27. Cryptic, but pretty clever nonetheless.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 02:38 AM by Urban Prairie
Lessee if I understand you:

It's not good enough: I suppose "it" means "we" are not doing our "job" well. It being the corporate capitalists that control our government's leaders in DC, and informing them to tell us that they are dissatisfied . We being the great unwashed, and job being liberals voting for the "wrong" party and seeing through the BS, even though there is little difference between the parties, except for the fact that Democrats have a conscience, and feel bad about screwing us, where the sociopathic GOP certainly does not.

You are not working as hard as you need to: This actually means that some/many on the left are not easily succumbing to the corporate capitalists siren song, and have the unmitigated gall to consider standing up to and opposing it, and not properly embracing unrelenting and glorious capitalism, like the peon rightwingers/teabaggers always have. How dare us!!

By the way, you are on your own too: Stop thinking/worrying about the plight of your neighbor(s), and don't expect us (capitalists and government) to continue to fund your grandma and grandpa's socialist government programs for much longer. They will be slashed/reduced, then ultimately ceased, and much sooner than you think.

You need to work harder, longer for less: Less being not just for lower wages, but in more unsafe and unhealthy environments, and longer meaning "for the rest of your life" if you even can. There is no pot of retirement gold waiting for you at the end of your working rainbow anymore, 'cause no one will be able to "retire" unless it means being homeless/starving, imprisoned, or RIP.

You need to get education on things that we will outsource: No matter what skills, experience and education level that you acquire/achieve, they are all vulnerable to outsourcing/off-shoring, ect...But you need to do it anyway, so that we can continue to bleed you dry of money for as long as possible of that which will be owed with interest, for your student loans, or the costs of training/honing your skills.

We will not support you: The Democratic Party has much sorrow and sympathy for what is happening and which will happen to many more in the US, but there is too much damage already done by the prior administration, to ever hope for a recovery to the boom years of the 90s. The economy, medical care, insurance, and energy costs will only soar, grow higher and become worse, and are being just barely restrained. WE are completely owned.

The corporations need help: You will be forced to submit to, glorify, and acknowledge them ideologically, just like the rightwing/teabaggers have, like it or not. They will ultimately flush out anyone who would boldly dare to continue to refuse to do so.

Help them make money or else: Accept whatever changes we will make, continue to buy goods and services, do not attempt to save money for a "rainy" day under your mattresses, as it rightfully belongs to us. It won't matter anyway because actual currency will soon be phased out and will become worthless. Else means that everyone will suffer if some refuse to obey. Those who refuse to obey or bow in deference to us, will become persecuted by those who do. Those caught will be treated as treasonous domestic terrorists.

The economy is back: It actually isn't, and never will again, but you must act and behave like it is.

Wall Street is safe:You should purchase our stocks and pretend that you will be able to add to your investments for your supposed retirement on sales and/or dividends from it someday, even though you won't. Social Security will be ours to continue to pillage from, until we decide to end it. And make no mistake, we WILL end it.

We must cut costs: Costs, of course being all that once were of some benefit, whether major or minor, to the great unwashed. Defense spending is NOT a benefit to those who are not in the active military, and will not be cut, but will continue to be increased since it benefits US to do so.

We must stop spending money: That amount which is to your benefit or sake.

We need to spend money smarter: We need to continue to support the "global economy" and "free trade" even though it is killing the US economically. Therefore, the sacrifices that are necessary or may need to be made, will be borne completely upon the collective backs of the remainder of the US middle class and the poor.


How well did I do?







B-)
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 06:25 AM
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28. I think you've decoded it pretty well..
And I think it's pretty accurate.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:24 AM
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30. Except Obama didn't say that.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 09:24 AM by emulatorloo
EXAMPLE Cuts:

I recognize that some in this chamber have already proposed deeper cuts, and I’m willing to eliminate whatever we can honestly afford to do without. But let’s make sure that we’re not doing it on the backs of our most vulnerable citizens. (Applause.) And let’s make sure that what we’re cutting is really excess weight. Cutting the deficit by gutting our investments in innovation and education is like lightening an overloaded airplane by removing its engine. It may make you feel like you’re flying high at first, but it won’t take long before you feel the impact. (Laughter.)

EXAMPLE: Social Security:


To put us on solid ground, we should also find a bipartisan solution to strengthen Social Security for future generations. (Applause.) We must do it without putting at risk current retirees, the most vulnerable, or people with disabilities; without slashing benefits for future generations; and without subjecting Americans’ guaranteed retirement income to the whims of the stock market. (Applause.)
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:18 AM
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32. We'll just neglect to fight to renew a desperately needed program and raise their taxes instead.
Very quietly of course.


"But let’s make sure that we’re not doing it on the backs of our most vulnerable citizens."

A smile and a stab in the back.
Compassionate conservatism.
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delightfulstar Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 07:03 AM
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29. The most anti-Progressive thing I've seen in a while...
What ever happened to helping each other, and people getting a fair shake? I like it FDR's way, personally...helping ourselves, and helping each other, in turn. It worked then, and it can work now. It's worth a shot.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:14 AM
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31. well, i give you points for an active imagination.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 01:13 PM
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33. "fevered imagination" might be a better way to characterize it.
EOM
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