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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:11 PM
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Here's How Your Senators Voted on Udall Amendment to Strip Out War and Imprisonment Power Grabs
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 04:27 PM by Fire Walk With Me
Edit for clarity: This is the bill, Post Subject content follows:

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/waronterror/senates-disastrous-new-detention-bill/

The new National Defense Authorization Bill (S1867) presented to the Senate by the Armed Services Committee is such a disaster for civil liberties and human rights it is difficult to know where to begin.

Section 1031 of the Bill extends the Congressional Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed after the September 11th attacks to encompass any individual who has “substantially supported” Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or “associated forces”.

This is extraordinarily vague. The phrase ‘associated forces’ is so flexible that it can be used to encompass almost any militant Islamic group in existence from Indonesia to Nigeria. It might include political parties who share some of the militants’ aims but not their methods – like the Hizb ut Tahrir movement active in Western Europe and Australia.



http://warisacrime.org/content/heres-how-your-senators-voted-udall-amendment-strip-out-war-and-imprisonment-power-grabs

By davidswanson - Posted on 29 November 2011

YEAs ---37 (Thank them.)
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Coons (D-DE)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Paul (R-KY)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---61 (Occupy their front yards with all-night drum circles.)
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lee (R-UT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Moran (R-KS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:16 PM
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1. what's the bill name or number?
thanks -- just need clarifying for those who aren't following closely.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:19 PM
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2. The Udall amendment to the Senate's Defense bill.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:28 PM
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7. Thanks to those who posted links to the bill. I've updated the OP with appropriate content.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:20 PM
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3. not familiar with this one
Can ya help me, both my senators voted nay and I'd like to know before I get out my bongos.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:24 PM
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4. I think this has slipped by a lot of people
Pretty important stuff.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:25 PM
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5. The issue was whether the US military should imprison people arrested in the US.
Also, whether the FBI should have to give a suspect to the military.

And whether the Justice Dept should need the permission of the Defense Dept to prosecute a terrorist.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00210

The Obama administration has implied it will veto. Asking Obama to veto is the next step.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:26 PM
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6. So it still passed... Nope, it does no look like a police sate
No siree.
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The Genealogist Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:31 PM
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8. Both of my senators are on the wrong side of this bit of legislation
And one is a dem. Shame on Senator McCaskill.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:33 PM
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9. Too many Dems voted the wrong way here.
And why are all the paleo conservatives against the Constitution?!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:36 PM
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11. Tell them so.
Nothing says YOU PISSED ME OFF like a nice drum circle.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:35 PM
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10. Kick
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:39 PM
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12. Thanks to my 2 good guys, Cardin and Mikulski.
:thumbsup:
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:47 PM
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13. I doff my hat to my senators
Franken and Klobuchar. :applause:

But the damned thing passed anyway. Can anyone imagine what Darth would have done with this absurd and quasi-totalitarian authority? :scared:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:57 PM
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19. I don't doff my hat to Leahy and Sanders though they both voted yea.
That's like the bare minimum of what I expect from my Senators. I don't feel the need to applaud something so basic
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:01 PM
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20. The problem is that it has become that dire these days.
Especially considering our senators were all in the minority of this vote. Anything resembling conscience or reality-based thinking deserves a little applause.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:49 PM
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14. In celebration of this disaster, some related music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY4gyk9puts

Gang of Four-He'd Send In The Army (1981)
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:49 PM
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15. I contacted Durbin and Kirk. Glad they voted "yes."
Thanks for the lists of names.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:50 PM
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16. Better: Nays


Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Hagan (D-NC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:53 PM
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17. Lugar's sure scared of the Teabaggers.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 04:54 PM by BiggJawn
I'm surprised at the way he's voted and reversed himself on long-standing policies ever since the Teabaggers announced he wasn't conservative enough for them and have put up some mouth-breather to challenge him.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:51 PM
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18. Whitehouse (D-RI) - NAY ...Damn
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