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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 12:46 PM
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Solyndra Solyndra Solyndra- What about Fraudulent Defense Contractors Paid $1 Trillion ??
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 12:47 PM by darth marth
Hundreds of defense contractors that defrauded the U.S. military received more than $1.1 trillion in Pentagon contracts during the past decade, according to a Department of Defense report prepared for Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Sanders (I-Vt.) called the report "shocking." He said aggressive steps must be taken to ensure taxpayer dollars aren't wasted.

"The ugly truth is that virtually all of the major defense contractors in this country for years have been engaged in systemic fraudulent behavior, while receiving hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money," said Sanders. "With the country running a nearly $15 trillion national debt, my goal is to provide as much transparency as possible about what is happening with taxpayer money."

The report detailed how the Pentagon paid $573.7 billion during the past 10 years to more than 300 contractors involved in civil fraud cases that resulted in judgments of more than $1 million, $398 billion of which was awarded after settlement or judgment for fraud. When awards to "parent" companies are counted, the Pentagon paid more than $1.1 trillion during the past 10 years just to the 37 top companies engaged in fraud.

http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/13089



This is why we have to take back our public airwaves!

The last ten years, Republicans have been pilfering our treasury...yet they are still pointing the finger because the own the narrative!


As Rove Famously said:

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.


I mean they are still calling the media 'liberal'...that is how far they have taken 'reality'....

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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:08 PM
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1. Shhhhh.
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:24 PM
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2. I dunno, all this hypocrisy and corruption is really making me want to scream!
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 01:26 PM by darth marth
I am so sick of the stupid ass narrative by the 'liberal' media and they stupid fucking hypocrites always pointing the finger.


I can't be the only one just about to lose it :grr:


How many of us tried to stop the wars, the overt looting...then they do it anyway, blame the poor people for the deficit then cut off benefits that are separately funded by FICA taxes?


These lies are not exactly serving the public interest.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:25 PM
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3. Our Boys are Fighting over there so they won't defraud us here
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:01 PM
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7. and they are fighting for our freedom

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Anatos Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:16 PM
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4. I will admit
the ending was a bit weak. The "reality-based community" bit? I don't see any real connection to the Solyndra/Defense Contractor comparison, unless you're just trying to prove Rove was right. I don't disagree with your assessment of the situation, but your presentation seems flawed in that way. How are we going to stop Republicans from continuing to pilfer the treasury while pointing the finger at Dems with their own narrative? I don't think Rove's quote provides any answer to that, as much as it might sum up your own thinking on the matter. But if you just drop that part, whether you embrace or disdain Rove's encapsulation of the situation, your argument is crystal clear. Only more information will make it clearer (if it is an apt comparison, and I certainly think it is.) Just who are these contractors and how is this Trillion Dollars (you know, 1.1 trillion doesn't seem as large as 397 billion; keep that in mind when formulating your descriptions) and what is this "fraudulent behavior"? Just one or two solid examples will suffice. I recall pallets of bundled cash, a billion dollars in non-sequential bills (an even larger sum than any trillion on a hypothetical balance sheet) that disappeared in Iraq, though I don't have more details than that.

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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:59 PM
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5. yes, I was showing Rove is winning- because they are controlling our public airwaves
If we had a free press, Halliburton would have been fired after the first fraud, not given more contracts.

This current hypocrisy could not stand. We have had ten years of republican looting and lying that the media is biased against them when all they have done is enable and support their every desire.

I am sick of those bastards creating reality.

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Anatos Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:49 PM
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6. Oh, sorry
I thought you had something interesting to say. Please forgive me, I didn't realize it was indeed your intention to engage in nothing more than routine repetitive whining. Your assumption that A) there is or ever has been such a thing as a "free press", if there is not one now and B) it would somehow magically make it possible to 'fire Halliburton' (presuming it wouldn't have simply made it impossible to hire them, or perhaps even to ever engage in any war, justified or not) doesn't leave much room for anything but running over the same old ground.

You can get as sick of it as you want; they will simply move on and create yet more reality. In other words, you are playing their game, and that is what you should be sick of. Stop doing that, then.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:10 PM
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8. As long as the Obama administration and the Democrats REFUSE to fight back against
This ridiculous talking point, we cede the argument to the ReThugs!!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:15 PM
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9. what about the billions unaccounted for during the Iraq invasion?
Seems like nobody wants to be reminded of that ...

or the "no-bid" contracts to Dick Cheney, er, Halliburton ... bypassing the legal steps that Obama or any other Democrat would have to follow to the letter (and spirit) of the law ...
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proverbialwisdom Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:55 PM
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10. K&R
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:17 PM
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11.  Bush Administration Advanced Solyndra Loan Guarantee for Two Years, Media Blow the Story
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/09/13/317594/timeline-bush-administration-solyndra-loan-guarantee/


^snip^



It’s often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007.

You’d never know from the media coverage that:

The Bush team tried to conditionally approve the Solyndra loan just before President Obama took office.

The company’s backers included private investors who had diverse political interests.

The loan comprises just 1.3% of DOE’s overall loan portfolio. To date, Solyndra is the only loan that’s known to be troubled.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:17 PM
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12. It's good for shareholders
What would Wall St investors do without those guaranteed profits from helping to kill people? Invest in local communities? Lots of people depend on that blood money to make ends meet.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:19 PM
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13. You will find not a soul to debate our problems with the MIC.
Nobody wants to talk about the Dragon in the room, just how hot it is.
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