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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:13 AM
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Big Brother is watching.. Malls to track shopper's cell phones
Starting on Black Friday and running through the entire shopping season, the Promenade Temecula shopping mall in southern California and Short Pump Town Center shopping mall in Richmond, Virginia plan to track customers locations within the mall by monitoring cell phone signals as reported by CNN earlier today. The malls intend to follow the path of each shopper and collect data to understand typical shopping patterns. While the malls claim that the data collected will be anonymous, mall officials will be able to tell which portion of the mall is unpopular, the amount of time that people spend inside a particular store and which stores compliment each other based off customer behavior.
The malls do plan to alert customers of the tracking program and encourage shoppers to turn off the cell phone while shopping.


http://news.yahoo.com/malls-plan-track-shopper-location...
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:18 AM
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1. Not that I'd be caught dead in a mall at any time of year.
and about 90% of the time my phone isn't even turned on.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:41 AM
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13. they'd have trouble with me, too
Ninety per cent of the time I don't know where mine is.


Cher
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:18 AM
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2. Man if I lived in those areas and could get 10 friends together...
It'd be worth the waste of half a day.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:38 AM
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12. That would be the biggest hoot!
Totally worth the time

:7

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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:21 AM
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3. Is merely turning off your cell phone sufficient to stop tracking?
I recall reading that even when the cell phone is 'off,' some circuits stay energized that allow tracking. If anyone is truly concerned about this, I recommend removing the battery as well.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:58 AM
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8. In a previous thread, a poster reported that 2 layers of aluminum foil will stop transmissions
The frequently concerned should buy a Faraday bag.

http://faraday-bags.com/
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:54 PM
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15. Interesting.
something to look into.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:56 PM
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16. Also don't forget to adequately cover your head
:tinfoilhat:
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:24 AM
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4. I picked up a habbit back in 2000
When I'm not using my cell phone or not expecting a call, I keep it turned off. I suppose that strategy might be a bit less useful for people who need to be reachable more often than not but I guess one could keep it on while at home or work.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:28 AM
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5. You can be tracked even if your phone is turned off
I am not 100% sure even removing the batter would do it...
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:58 PM
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17. I'm 99.9% sure that removing the battery will do it
Hell, many phones have trouble getting a signal under the best of conditions, I cannot imagine a phone that could work without a battery.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:32 AM
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6. Big Brother was the government watching people inside their homes

This is not Big Brother and mislabeling it as such does more harm than good


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Magoo48 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:33 AM
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11. Call it what you will, it is fucked up.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 12:30 PM
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14. You can split hairs here if you like, however
is there not a cozy relationship between Corporate "People" and our Government?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:32 AM
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7. So fight back. Flash mob the malls
Make sure you make the call outside the mall and everyone meet inside the mall to do whatever. Maybe just run through it to create false patterns.

Shit. If I just thought of that there are hundreds who're thinking the same thing just as quickly.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:11 AM
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9. I dont do malls. They are so last decade. nm
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 10:22 AM
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10. I haven't been in a mall in years
Because I don't do holidays.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:00 PM
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18. Yeah, it's too bad people are invisible
Cuz otherwise they could use, ya know, something like videotape to track patterns.

There's something nefarious going on when they want to use cell phone signals, it's more than just tracking traffic patterns. It's personal.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:19 PM
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19. Agreed
There is the old story of the grocer who placed bins of peanuts at spots through his store for people to enjoy. He would then look at the peanut shells on the floor to see which areas had seen higher traffic than others.
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