When I hear that there are problems and pepper spray, rubber bullets, tear gas,

[Are_grits_groceries]

and other methods are being used, I have to pay attention to find out if it's in Egypt, Syria, or The US. Right now The separation is the use of live ammunition and maybe the military up to this point. I don't believe we know who is up to what between all the federal departments. I keep wondering how long that separation will remain?

While people knock Anonymous, I believe they are one of the few wild cards trying to help at times. They can keep uncertainty ramped up among the PTB.

One step might be to request neutral observers from the UN. Blue Helmets anyone?
Can Doctors Without Borders help?
(facetious, I know there are much worse places )

[RKP5637]

1. It could get worse. ... just thinking about what happened at Kent State. Some cop

someplace is going to feel threatened, real or not, and pull the trigger.

[Are_grits_groceries]

2. I know.

I'm afraid it's going to et a lot worse.

[Amonester]

3. It's a President and a Secretary Of State "job" to denounce the violence

against peaceful protesters in their own country.

If they fail at that, they'll fail at any attempt to lecture other countries to do whatever they want against their own peaceful protesters.

They will say: "Why should we do what they tell us to? They don't lecture their own wrong-doers."

[EFerrari]

4. The UN is not neutral. Ask Haiti.

And this morning as I read that the UC Davis Chancellor lied and said the police were surrounded at Occupy Davis, I read that Egyptian state teevee said their forces were only protecting themselves from the violent protesters when they tear gassed and shot them.

I think it's safe to assume that the Federal security establishment didn't suddenly become unintrusive when the #OWS movement got going. And we will find out that they went into action almost immediately, bet me.