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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:53 AM Original message |
How About Better Parents? |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. How about making it so parents don't both have to have a |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I had three jobs when my kids were young |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. My daughter does also |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. +1 |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. And daycare is NOT the same thing, not as acutely tuned to the mind-heart of the child itself instea |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I'm all for a living wage. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. My parents both worked when I was growing up, |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. This raises the issue of ABSENT parents... |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. Teachers know this. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. Well read parents can probably also offer more answers to "Why?" than just force in "Because I/we |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The willingness to pursue various answers to questions could also be related to economic status. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. In 6th grade our teacher spent 30 minutes a day reading to the class. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. All of my teachers through sixth grade read to the class. It was awesome. |
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The Genealogist (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Some of my deaerest memories of elementary school are |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
9. We've known this for my entire lifetime, let alone my career. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Soon, I hope. As long as we keep... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. How? We cannot compel effective parenting. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Somehow, your latest avatar is so appropo. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Like everything else involved with Mad Magazine, |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. That was my comment on your post, |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You have a very nice day, won't you? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. unmitigated bullshit. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thank you for your well-considered discussion of my post. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Right you are. My response was well-considered & I decided some stuff is unmitigated bullshit. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Indeed, relying on the parents to pick up the slack |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Thank you. Our public schools take children from all possible |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I agree with this |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I don't think anyone is excusing teachers from their responsibilities in what happens. nt |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I wasn't inferring that teachers are not expected to meet their goals |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Erasing those expectations means more children will fail. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. It's called being a good parent. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yes. All parents should be good parents. They are not. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Research says it's critical. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I don't ask the schools to parent the child |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. +1000 |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. Modeling is important too |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. I have two gifted range boys |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. Our kid is our priority. Always has been, and it was our choice. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
38. It must be that it needs to be better students |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. Schools have to be able to educate the children of bad parents. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Schools ought to have the resources to do so. nt |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Absolutely, but "give more money to schools with bad results and less to schools with good results" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Just fully fund all schools, for all programs. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I don't think "fully funding schools" is possible. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Fully funding the military doesn't seem to be a problem.. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The US military is not fully-funded - 97% of the population are civilians N.T. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I fail to see your point.. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. My point is that "Fully funded" means "spending more wouldn't help". |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Heh.. I think the US military would do a better job with *less* money.. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. You're thinking in terms of cost-benefit ratio; |
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