pepper spray is a “compliance tool" that can be used on subjects who do not resist

[trumad]

A stunning statement.

SAN FRANCISCO — As video spread of an officer in riot gear blasting pepper spray into the faces of seated protesters at a northern California university, outrage came quickly — followed almost as quickly by defense from police and calls for the chancellor’s resignation.

University of California Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi said in a statement Saturday she was forming a task force to investigate the police action and the video images she said were “chilling.”

However, a law enforcement official who watched the clip called the use of force “fairly standard police procedure.”

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Charles J. Kelly, a former Baltimore Police Department lieutenant who wrote the department’s use of force guidelines, said pepper spray is a “compliance tool” that can be used on subjects who do not resist, and is preferable to simply lifting protesters.

“When you start picking up human bodies, you risk hurting them,” Kelly said. “Bodies don’t have handles on them.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/higher-education/investigation-calls-for-resignation-follow-spread-of-calif-university-pepper-spray-video/2011/11/20/gIQAcWivdN_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop

[madokie]

1. Well mr kelly

sometimes mine does

[mmonk]

2. Truth comes out in the strangest of fashions.

[backscatter712]

3. Let's see what the dictionary says about torture...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/torture

2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure

"Compliance tool"? Sounds like the police is trying to coerce. And what is pepper spray? A chemical mixture explicitly engineered to cause intense pain when sprayed on people.

This "fairly standard police procedure" is torture.

[Bonobo]

4. Precisely what it should not be and PRECISELY why it is such bullshit when

when people defend police actions by claiming that violence is "standard police procedure" due to the "use of force guidelines" or due to the "soft to hard" BS.

Whether pepper spray or tasters are in fact "compliance tools" (complacence tools more like it) NEEDS to be hashed out and laws need to be written stopping it.

[Randypiper]

5. It is a vindictive tool

They want to punish for not complying.

[rgbecker]

6. Kelly: wrong on both counts.

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[leveymg]

7. Pepper spray, a "chemical agent", is classified by DOJ as a "less-lethal weapon" along with rubber

bullets, tasers, billy clubs, and tear gas, the use of which in coordinated police responses to "civil disturbances" is supposed to be used according to planned "rules of engagement."

The euphemism "Compliance tool" is Orwellian double-talk.

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[Starry Messenger]

8. Why is some cop from Baltimore commenting on CA police procedure?

I'm fairly sure our state has laws against what Pike did. That whole article is slanted and shitty.

[lonestarnot]

9. Compliance tool. What fucking more bullshit!

[Gore1FL]

10. I don't think they tested the marketing strategy for this procedure

They can have all of the procedures they want. Implement them on peaceful people in front of a camera and those policies are worth ash.

[2pooped2pop]

11. so we now have to "citizens arrest" ourselves and load

ourselves onto the police bus to prevent "non compliance" torture? Well, why do we even need the police then? (we can tell ourselves to "keep moving" too)

[socialindependocrat]

12. Sounds stupid to me...

What lame brained idiot wrote that crap??

Spraying people with mace is preferable to lifting them!

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Why didn't the administrator contact the professor who initiated the sit-in and ask if
he would get the students to leave the property?

Oh gee, these are my students and my professors that are pissing me off.
I'll call the riot squad instead of just going out and talking to them.

She needs to get out and mingle with her students and faculty
instead of sitting at her computer all day!

Not to mention, it's a great role model for the students!!
If you can't negotiate, call the riot squad or mace your opponent!

YES!! A new tactic for the debating team!!!

[NYC_SKP]

13. Well who the FUCK is Charles J. Kelly to tell anyone what the Fuck is or isn't OK? Fuck that Fucker

Hey, Charles J. Kelly:

Go fuck your fucking self you stupid fucking fucker...

:mad:

[bakpakr]

14. California Penal Code Section 12403.7

California Penal Code Section 12403.7

(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in
self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by
imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years
or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed
one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment,
except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in
Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2,
engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the
person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that
the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by
imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or
by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and
imprisonment.

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12403.7.html

[metalbot]

16. Well, that's part of the law

California Penal Code Section 12403 (no subsection)

Nothing in this chapter shall prohibit any person who is a peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, from purchasing, possessing, transporting, or using any tear gas or tear gas weapon if the person has satisfactorily completed a course of instruction approved by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training in the use of tear gas.

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12403.html

[gkhouston]

How many people go into anaphylactic shock when you pick them up?

How many people are hurt by being carried? As opposed to hurting 100% of the people you spray?

[blogslut]

15. I wonder when that changed and who changed it

Used to be, a peaceful protestor was told to "go limp", and in doing so, they weren't "resisting" and the police would have to carry them off.

Something, some rule, changed and I would like to know when it changed and who changed it.