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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:29 AM
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OWS is dropping in the polls! It's costing taxpayer money! Roll with it! We're White-Hat Trolls.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 10:36 AM by backscatter712


That's right. We're trolls. Trolling on the street, pissing people off. But we're trolls for a cause, trolling for the right reason, and trolling our way to victory! We're good trolls!

So when people complain that we're raking up gazillions of dollars of bills to the taxpayers so the cops can don riot gear and crack our skulls, or whine about how our blocking streets and disrupting traffic makes people mad, or that we're costing businesses money, or that we're burning flags or hanging them upside down, or otherwise alienating people, I say that's part of the desired effect!

We WANT to piss people off.

We want people angry.

Because we tried playing nice. Writing letters and sending petitions to our Congressmen, participating in election campaigns, getting out the vote, trying to elect more and better Democrats. And we learned one thing. When we play by the rules, the sociopathic fucks with all the power ignore us, and the people in general tune us out and don't hear us.

The only way to get heard in a system designed to drown out our voices is to troll. You have to go and piss people off. Make people mad. Fuck with them.

It works. It worked for Martin Luther King. Ever notice how he was only lionized after he was killed? When he was alive, a lot of people HATED him. He was very disruptive. He was trolling. He had people blocking streets, he provoked police into committing acts of violence, his people sat in at whites-only restaurants, getting screamed at, hit, spat on. He was trolling. I need to find or make an MLK Jr. Trollface.

People worried about alienating potential supporters are fallaciously conflating two things: The popularity of the group doing the trolling (in this case, OWS), and the causes they're supporting. You ask the same people who are disapproving of OWS what they think of Wall Street and economic inequality, and most of them will tell you they're sick of being fucked! Except the teabaggers, but that's alright - they can't be reached anyways. We're looking at sticking our ideas in everyone else's minds, and pissing them off is surprisingly effective at getting ideas out there.

The Republicans know this. That's why they've been disrupting the legislative process non-stop - they don't care if Congress is unpopular. They keep deliberately pissing people off. And they keep winning elections.

So get out there, go piss some people off! Block those streets, shut down ports, maximize the disruption. Burn flags, blaspheme in front of the fundies, be as offensive as possible! Do things that make people mad enough to get you arrested, or even get you assaulted!

BE AN ASSHOLE!!! That's how you get heard when no other way works.

In the words of Malcolm Reynolds, I aim to misbehave!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:33 AM
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1. this is post democracy america.
the white hat trolls know that -- and mean to maintain that.
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:39 AM
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2. I think it's time to decide upon some tangible goals for people to put their passion behind.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:42 AM
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3. Trolls don't need itemized agendas. They just need to be loud!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:06 AM
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9. Plus there is one.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:06 AM
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8. Shh Medicare for all
Shh student debt forgiveness

Shhh corporate money out of politics.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:43 AM
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4. i'm not sure i like the framing
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:46 AM
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5. It got the point across, didn't it? n/t
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:48 AM
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6. TESTIFY!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:04 AM
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7. +1,000,000,000,000! gazillion!!!! n/t
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:07 AM
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10. I think a better angle to take
is that the only reason it's costing ANY money is the fact that they feel the need to suit up cops in riot gear and send them out to crack peaceful protesters' heads.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:09 AM
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11. Were you alive during MLK's activism? Doesn't sound like it. nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:20 AM
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14. No, but read about it.
Things like the constant death threats, bombings, J. Edgar Hoover's FBI following him, harassing him, compiling files, looking for ways to fuck him...

MLK Jr pissed a lot of people off.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:09 AM
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12. Wanting to be universally loved is the path to certain pablum.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:02 PM
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16. pabulum
(sorry to be an edit crank)
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:12 AM
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13. I have the asshole party down to perfection.
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:48 AM
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15. What's the ratio of cops to football fans...
in a stadium on game day, 1:1000? 70,000 fans drinking alcohol and getting their rocks off watching violence, and 7 to 10 uniformed cops in the entire stadium.

So, why so many cops when fewer protestors are on the street, not drinkiing booze,not cheering for some fellow to maim another?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:07 PM
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17. The troll face reminds me of the Bob Waltman Special.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 01:10 PM by LoZoccolo
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:21 PM
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18. And NEVER FORGET that MLK was killed while organizing labor!
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 01:21 PM by intheflow
He was reviled and threatened for trying to break the color barrier, but it wasn't until he started speaking up for labor and against Vietnam that he was killed. Because that was a much worse threat to the 1%.

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:44 PM
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19. Shameless self-kick for the evening crowd...
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