Why don't people occupy the Republican headquarters?

[Liberty Belle]

Seems to me most of our country's problems stem from the no-new-taxes and Neanderthal policies of the GOP (treating women as chattel and denying global warming). In CA today CSU jacked up tuitions for the 3rd time in a year--all because the GOP members of the Legislature refuse to consider any form of state revenue increase. The kids are occupying college campuses and protested at the CSU trustees meeting until trustees moved the meeting room (and kicked out media, too)

Why don't the kids go occupy the GOP headquarters in Sacramento? Why doesn't everyone in the 99% occupy the Republican Party HQ in Washington DC and draw attention to who is really at fault here?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Becuase they are blaming the SYSTEM, not just ONE

particular party... yes Republicans AND democrats come up in discussions...but not as the dichotomy we have been living over the last 10 years at least.

They come as part of how the system has failed and what needs to happen to correct this... why there was even talk of *gasp* a con-con at Oakland.

They get it... it is far deeper than just A POLITICAL PARTY.

I hope that answers some of that.

This said Occupiers have occupied the officers of Speaker Boehner... they have occupied a speed by Karl Rove... did I mention mic checks to Governor Walker? I could go on. The list of these mic checks is growing every day, as well as occupations of offices... we once called them sit ins.

[TheWraith]

3. Which doesn't make sense when the problem with the system is a particular party.

The Republican Party.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Alas no it is not, the problem is systemic

they get it... you don't.

And yes the problem goes beyond CONVENTIONAL politics.. it is ideological... what they are revolting against, and this is world wide, not just the US... are neoliberal policies and yes... quite a few in the top tier of the democratic party ARE Neo-liberals.

Once you understand this... you realize that there are specifics to each country, but it is about Neo-liberal policies and "the system." Each country has different ways for the system to be broken, but it goes down to globalization, neo liberal policies and destroying the commons for the benefit of the few. It is called plutocracy... they get it.

[TheWraith]

30. I evidently "get it" far better than they do.

Because there is no equivalence, NONE, between the Democrats and the Republicans--except as pushed by Republican funded smears which want to discourage people from electing Democrats.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. So you are teling me that third way democrats

are not real... (clinton, Harold Ford, Summers... I could go on).

PHEW then we all imagined the whole Third Way...

Good to know!

:thumbsup:

I also now realize the error of my ways and all those free trade agreements are also a figment of my imagination. I guess some of those kids are also having dreams about those things...

[TroglodyteScholar]

77. The parties may not be equivalent in every way...

...but elements of BOTH are screwing the American people. You truly think there are no Dems who are in bed with Wall St? Have you seen who supports (financially) some of "our" guys?

[supraTruth]

67. WORLD WIDE it is taxes on the UBER-RICH at too low rates that has created the Gov. Debt problems

that is causing leaders to call for "AUSTERITY" even though austerity only breeds MORE POVERTY & DEBT. In ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES, INCLUDING OURS, IT IS THE CONS who protect the UBER-RICH from higher tax rates.

For 20 years in our country, & through both Eisenhower terms, our highest tax rate was 89 -91% after deductions. Now it is 15% after deductions for hedge fund managers & corporate executives who hold their stock options for more than 1 year. TOTALLY UNfair & has GREATLY CONtributed to the income disparity in this country. (In Greece, the top income tax rate is 40% for ALL income over 70,000 euros, & shipping owners are exempt from income tax.)

We need to return to MORE tax brackets for the SUPER & ULTRA RICH, & the CONS have been BLOCKING that for 30 YEARS!

EVEN NOW, THEIR CRY FOR TAX REFORM IS: "LOWER THE TAX RATES & BROADEN THE BASE," which is code for "SCREW THE WORKING POOR EVEN MORE!"

Only by marginalizing the republiCON party can we ACTUALLY turn things around.

NEVER believe otherwise.

[Luminous Animal]

9. Really? There is no revolving door between Democrats, lobbyists, and captains of capital?

Democrats don't give corporate criminals immunity? They don't sign free trade agreements? They don't vote for imperial wars?

They don't sign off on brutal suppression of free speech an assembly movements. They don't try to break the backs of public employee unions? The don't promote austerity measures?

[Old and In the Way]

11. I don't buy this false equivalence either.

yes, we have systematic issues, like how elections are funded, but only one Party is trying to turn this country into an Ayn Rand paradise. Deal with the real problem first...then go after the DINO's on an individual basis.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Alas those kids are way ahead of you

it is not an equivalency. the TOP TIER of the Democratic Party also believes in Neo Liberal Policies...

And they are not listening to the people.

Now gather around and I wil tell you the secret on HOW the people will leave the streets. It is actually pretty easy. Once they figure this in DC...

1.- GET RID of the bush tax cuts... yes it is that easy... in fact, raising them by FIVE PERCENT gasp will be like a HUGE victory.

2.- Get a few bills passed to deal with student debt and strengthen, not weaken medicare. or whatever you want to call single payor

3.- FUND infrastructure spending and HIRE people at good union wages

4.- ENNACT a FEDERAL Living wage scale

5.- STOP the attack on unions.

Call this New Deal II... I promise those encampments will go poof overnight. I also guarantee the economy will start to recover.

bonu points...

We also need to work in taking all money out of politics... but serious, it is not that hard... and show me ONE pol who actually has power (I am not particular about party) who will go THERE.

Reestablish Glass Steagal and break bank monopolies.

[Ken Burch]

15. No, both parties are going along with it.

Obama and the Dems who are in leadership positions in Congress have NEVER challenged the right-wing arguments-and in many cases, they've given aid and comfort to them-Clinton's racist and sexist acceptance of the correctness of the right-wing slurs on "welfare mothers" and his refusal to ever defend the poor or the workers, Obama's sickening endorsement of paternalistic Republican arguments about the alleged bad parenting of black fathers and his contempt for the labor movement, as shown in his hatred of public school teachers-

Our party's leaders are not doing what they are OBLIGATED to do...defend our party's core supporters.
Therefore, they are equally to blame with the Republicans.

They would only be blameless if they fought against the Right on the bulk of the issues.

[Nye Bevan]

2. Because they would be arrested for trespassing

so it would be a very short-lived "occupation".

[TheWraith]

4. So protest outside.

It would be more targeted than a church park miles from Wall Street.

[Hissyspit]

25. Feel free

to do it.

[TheWraith]

28. I'm several thousand miles away, I'm afraid. nt

[MADem]

6. I wish they'd do something besides fight with the police over tents and the "right to camp."

I've not seen a ton of Republicans speaking out for the middle class or against usurious bank fees, and they sure don't give a shit about social justice, so that seems like a good fit to me.

If you're going to get arrested, make it mean something, anyway.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Ok this is a new meme or 'thing...

[MADem]

10. What? The tent fighting? It's ALL the news is covering.

The echo chamber needs to "get" that. Don't shoot the messenger. It's the damn truth.

Every day, support for OWS erodes because of stupid shenanigans.

They need to get back to basics. Granny, working mother, busy dad, and those wrench benders working overtime aren't tuning in to livestream or pecking around on YOUTUBE. They're watching CNN or the nightly news, and that's what they are seeing. They're reading their crappy local paper, if they read one at all, and that's what they are reading about.

It's not a 'meme' or a thing, it's reality. This shit is getting tiresome. Time for a new paradigm.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. So it is a MEDIA NARRATIVE

I see.

See this is not about camping... it is about political speech.

THE MEDIA has created a meme.

That is all I have to say to you on this subject by the way...

[MADem]

16. And that is my fault, how? So why are you YELLING AT ME??? HMMM????

Guess what? "Media narratives" become reality, even if you don't like that.

It's not a meme, it's what people are saying. Enough with the tents!

Go on and shoot the messenger. It does absolutely nothing to address the actual issue, which is that the OWS "tent thing" is perceived as stale and stupid.

They need a new direction.

They don't need to go away, they need to refocus and get serious.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. No it is not what the people are saying

is what the Chamber of commerce in insert city is saying, repeated by insert media outlet here.

I will tell you this... they will be GONE before the Super committee delivers or fails to delver. POWER cannot afford such flash points

Now go on and shoot me for speaking the truth here.

OWS IS an insurgency... and it is being treated as such.

[MADem]

21. Sorry, you're wrong. It's in every paper and on every TV news show.

And it's being repeated by people who watch the news. When they talk about how much City X or City Y is paying for police overtime, the conversations get more animated.

Don't believe me. I'm just saying, there needs to be a refocusing of the effort. This tents-n-tarps stuff is a loser.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. AKA MEDIA NARRATIVE

Kindly connect dots

It is a CLASSIC PROPAGANDA campaign.

Kindly read the counterinsurgency manual, It is still on line.

[MADem]

29. Oh, please.

You believe that people living in these cities and the suburbs around them aren't getting sick of the Tent Shit if that makes you happy. Put your fingers in your ears and do the LA LA LA LA thing, whatever.

OWS has an image problem. It also has a focus problem.

I hope they get their act together and refocus. They have energy and money, they just don't have their act together.

It's nothing to do with "propaganda"--it's everything to do with not having a point, save "Yell at the police, we have a right to CAMP."

That is how it's coming across. OWS can fix it by getting back on message and doing something other than yelling at the police and banging drums all day.

Don't shoot the messenger.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Poblem is I don't talk to SOME people

but to actual LIVING, BREATHING individuals that actually are sick and tired of a few other things and it does not have to do with tents.

Perhaps you should get out of the house more often

SOME PEOPLE IS a classic FOX news technique, I know it works.

Oh and don't shoot the messenger is also a classic La, La, La, I am not listening as well as Fox news technique, again it works.

That said.. what you are seeing is a CLASSIC propaganda push by media that is controlled. If having them pushed out of NYC eviction, even arrested, started to talk of what OWS wants, and then that went poof I cannot dont connect those dots for you I can't help you.

But you will get your wish. POWER will clear those tents before thanksgiving. Pray they are not truly driven underground thought.

[MADem]

33. And your living/breathers are all in the same place--attending OWS events.

You aren't going to get much dissent there. Saying "You should get out of the house" is a way of dismissing people who are sharing uncomfortable truths, as though they are less important than you are. Nice try, but you're whistling in the dark.

I get out of the house plenty and I see a ton of people on any given day--and let me tell you, people that were LOVING OWS a month ago are starting to say WTF.

Don't believe me, I don't fucking care, really. I had high hopes for this effort, I thought it was great that people were motivated and mobilized. But you can count me amongst the WTF crowd. I think the focus SUCKS. The camping? STUPID. Kitchens? Libraries? Socks and tarps? Come on. It's a waste. It's an extended party, with "cop goading" as a sport for the bored.

Grow the damn movement. Hell, Eleanor Norton got her start doing organizational and office work for MLK during the March on Washington--they didn't think it was "uncool" to have an organizational structure that could deal with media, issue press releases and coordinate strategy.

You can call it a propaganda push if you'd like, but deal with this--if that is what it is, it's working. Working BRILLIANTLY. Those clever propagandists must know what they are doing. People are getting sick of the tents-n-tarps. What they want, they aren't getting. They want "Hold the banks accountable" rallies, JOBS rallies, challenges to unfair practices--not unending police overtime and midnight fights.

Apparently, I won't "get what I wish." What I wish is that OWS would get off their asses, out of their tents, and start behaving like a professional organization with purpose, seriousness and goals. Get an office up and running. Organize media availabilities. Put out press releases. Coordinate mature demonstrations. That's what I "wish."

But whatever. You're determined to think that anyone who doesn't like tents and kitchens is the enemy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. And the trolley

and the bus,

and the coffee shop

And the supermarket...

Trust me there are no tents om board the trolley... or the bus, or the coffee shop, or the supermarket.

Yes I have LISTENED to the concerns of TWO people... and they were not about tents.

They were about them being un-american, even REDS. It had nothing about tents. it just felt threatening since these kids were COMMIES!

The second person was concerned about the coffee cart (a local story pushed hard by the media for which there is NO police investigation... and if the events happened as PUSHED.... there should be)

And I live in a somewhat purple town.

As I said, SOME PEOPLE is a well known media propaganda technique.

[MADem]

37. You're talking to people who never liked OWS, then.

Commies? Reds? Who uses those terms anymore?

I'm talking to Democrats, mostly. A few independents, and maybe a closeted Republican or two. People on fixed incomes. People worried about their jobs. People who are unemployed and looking for work and not finding any. People who are underemployed, working two part time jobs to keep it together. Most liked OWS because it was speaking to their concerns at first. Now, though, it isn't.

So those are my "some people." They're not propaganda, they are my neighbors. I see them when I walk the dogs. I take some of the ones without cars to the doctor, the supermarket, etc. We help each other out as we can.

A month ago, they were like me-- cheering 'em on. Now, they're pissed off at this police baiting and focus on camping. So am I.

They want to see marches, demonstrations, a difference made-- not fights with the police. Me, too. I'd also like to see OWS take the next step and get professionally organized.

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Pick a lane

and stick to it...

Oh wait, you have

[MADem]

39. I could offer you that same advice. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Alas I am a primary source in this matter

I have covered this closely... not just type from my keyboard.

In fact TOMORROW I will be there for the march on the bridge... guess what? IT IS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS.

You think my local media will even cover that in that way?

Don't bother.

[MADem]

43. And I am one from the other team--voters in the suburbs.

If your local media doesn't cover it, it's because they have all the "cop yelling" footage they need.

Good luck at the march. I hope it is focused and productive.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Alas voters in the suburbs are supporting the local

occupiers, but I am sure you did not know that. Nor you want to know that.

IN fact. the TACTICS are turing those people from tv watchers to actual activists... yes, radicalized that is the word I am looking for.

And thanks... I am almost expecting a whiff of peper spray. tear gas or the Sheriff'S LRAD... how is this something you can defend?

[MADem]

47. Well, not in my deep blue neighborhood--not anymore. They are losing patience.

I'm not "defending" anything. Why do you take everything I say as confrontational, simply because I have a different experience than you? I am telling you what my neighbors are saying, and you are insisting that my reality is not valid, solely because it isn't the narrative you want to hear.

That's just not helpful to willfully ignore reality. The tide is turning, but the wrong way.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. Funny local redish neighborhood

where my BIL lives support is over 60%... no, not tea party signs, 99% ones.

[seaglass]

79. Please. If you are in MA and watch WCVB - since day 1 they have turned OWS Boston

into how much the police details cost. THEY - the media is focusing on what THEY want to focus on - they are feeding this to their viewers. Repeat it enough and it becomes truth, it becomes what is important. You cannot blame OWS for what the media decides is the narrative.

[MADem]

81. I flip--and the media, by and large, has given decent coverage to Dewey Square.

Then again, there's more cooperation there than confrontation. Maybe you should change the channel every so often?

[seaglass]

84. Why should I? The point is to be discerning when watching/reading the news,

not to blindly buy what they are selling.

[MADem]

85. That's why I flip.

And while YOU can "be discerning" you are whistling in the dark if you expect to apply your heightened senses to the general population.

[TheKentuckian]

76. If you are depending on the corporate media to push a theme that will ingratiate

anyone to an anti-establishment, anti-corporate capture movement then you may as well welcome the fascism with open arms and wet, sloppy kisses.

They will work tirelessly to pooh-poo and undermine, that is what they are here for. Look at the distorted press Obama and mainstream Democrats get, look at how liberals are derided and essentially ostracized and then explain how this group that is going to the very heart of the problems can by any possible tact get neutral much less positive coverage.

[MADem]

82. I'm not "depending" on anyone or anything.

I am saying what IS.

You don't counter what is by simply denigrating it amongst a closed circle of "true believers."

A new paradigm is needed. Perhaps the unions will bring leadership and focus.

[Arctic Dave]

19. It's not a tent, it is a warmth cavity.

You are way behind.

[MADem]

22. Shoot the messenger!

If it makes you feel better.

It won't change reality. Reality is, this paradigm is getting stale to everyone except the elite camping cadre.

[Hissyspit]

26. Do you have any actual evidence of that?

[MADem]

36. Turn on your TV. Look at every national paper covering OWS.

It's the same shit. Police, tents, arrests. Public safety problems, health and sanitation issues.

Where are the articles about OWS marches against bank excesses, social justice educational events organized by OWS, marches for JOBS, protests against corporate malfeasance, actions against congressional corruption?

You won't see them--because they aren't happening anymore. It's all cops and tarps.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. So I imagined the lecture yesterday at 16:00 hours

at San Diego?

Thanks... I seem to imagine a lot of things.

As I said, you are LISTENING to the NEWS...

What did I say about media narratives? Thanks for proving the point far better than I could.

They ARE HAPPENING... every day.

[MADem]

45. I am not an island. That's what you don't seem to get.

You are shooting the messenger.

Yes, I am LISTENING to the NEWS, as you say.

As are my neighbors.

And OWS is putting out the wrong message with these police confrontations about tents. And no media reps. And no cohesive spokespeople.

You'll never see coverage of anything else if the best story, from an audio-visual standpoint, is people screaming at the police.

What makes a better picture? What pulls in the audience share? I mean....really.

It's pretty basic.

If you don't want to be known as as group that yells at the police about the right to camp, there needs to be a paradigm shift.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. And YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT

this is a CONCERTED PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN. OWS IS SEEN AND IS BEING TREATED AS AN INSURGENCY.

Please kindly read the counter insurgency manual and what it says the role of the media is in getting a side of the story that is friendly to the ones in power. You were in the armed forces, this is like basic and shit.

[MADem]

48. One more time. Real slow. Simple sentences.

I am sharing with you what my neighbors are saying. What people I know are saying. What they are thinking.

They're getting sick of the Police/Tent bullshit. They think OWS has lost its way.

These are the people who pay the taxes that pay the police. These are the people who vote for the politicians. These are the people who act based on what they see in the paper and on the news.

These people are not going to read the fucking "counter insurgency manual." Stop referencing that document. These people want OWS to shit or get off the pot. They need to regroup, repurpose, and speak to them, or lose their attention.

It's up to OWS. They can be a movement, or they can be a fringe group. They are at the crossroads right about now.

That's my point, propaganda or not. OWS is going to have to reinvent, or be marginalized.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. One more time

it is a whisper campaign.

I will also add this to you, since you are not close to it... it IS reinventing itself as I type.

But once it does... it will be attacked again.

IT IS A THREAT... it is an insurgency... it is a THREAT.

You understand that? Power, independent of party by the way, is reacting in fracking predictable ways... and it will continue to do such.

[MADem]

53. It doesn't matter.

Perception IS reality.

I am telling you what I and my neighbors perceive. That's all.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. And I am telling you that your neighbors

Are manipulated. Even if OWS shows in business suits...that is comming...it will be attacked.

[MADem]

56. And that doesn't matter either.

You aren't going to wish away perception with conduct that people find objectionable.

Again, don't shoot the messenger.

I think business suits would be a winner, actually. I recommend clip on ties, for obvious reasons.

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. And you are still purposely missing it

There is a reason that is being created. Either obtuse or invpcredibly naive.

[MADem]

59. As are you, apparently.

:hi:

[countryjake]

72. "elite camping cadre"??

How comfortable you and your friends and neighbors must be, in your working and living situations, for you to make such a comment as that!

"Elite"? Yes, it is true that not all of America has been dramatically affected by this crooked economy, YET. But for those who have worked for forty years, paid their dues into social security, tried their best to carve out a cranny in the American Dream, only to see it come crashing down, go pfft down the drain of "business as usual" and send them scrambling, not to a poorhouse, but to the trunks of their worn out cars, searching for a place to park that precious heap...these you choose to label "elite"?

OWS has given people hope, a positive place to go where everyone understands the plights that so many have found themselves in and more importantly, those occupy protests have inspired unity and action, to stand up and declare, "We are not alone". What is getting stale is the insistence of politicians, community leaders, the media, all of the ones who refuse to open their eyes to recognize what is happening to working people in this country, but insist instead on shuffling such folk down into the shadows, the back alleys, the free clinics, the food banks and church suppers, with no opportunity whatsoever of reclaiming what's been lost, no recourse to turn things around, to reclaim the pride and dignity that is rightfully theirs. The Occupy protests represent the alternative to all of the waiting, the wandering, the wondering, and the worrying that the 1% has forced upon us.

That is a truth of Occupy Wall Street, in cities and towns all over this nation, whether you choose to see it or not.

[MADem]

80. You know nothing about me, so don't even pretend that you do. NT

[Arctic Dave]

74. Victim mentality is as bad as being whiner.

Guess what, you do t get to decide, the ones doing the work do. Not that you would know what that is like.

[MADem]

83. Ah yes--snark, insults and poor spelling to boot! Such a compelling trinity!

How will I ever recover from such a vibrant riposte?

[Old and In the Way]

8. Break the Republican Party and the Democrats will follow.

Democrats may be weak sisters, but the beast resides in the Republican Party. Put the real fear of God in them - they are the ones who are actively legislating to kill our economy, destroy jobs, ruin the environment, and taking away our constitutional rights to vote - and Democrats might finally regain their courage and remember their roots as the Party of FDR.

Democrats may not like to see such public ugliness, but they may eventually enjoy their release from captivity.

[MADem]

17. That's some very sage commentary. I'd say it's right on the money.

You may be old, but you're sure as hell not in the way!

[supraTruth]

61. He is EXACTLY right. The CONS ARE the problem; & the 99% need to VOTE like they understand it.

[Ken Burch]

13. Because it's beside the point.

It isn't just one party. It's the corporate economic system...a system that long ago stopped being capitalism and started being extortionism.

To re-purpose the words of the Ragin' Cajun "It's The Economy, Stupid!"

[Rowdyboy]

20. The stench? The vibes? God knows I wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes in their "headquarters"

Way too afraid of nasty cooties....

[Desertrose]

23. Its not about parties...its SO MUCH BIGGER. nt

[ellisonz]

27. Agreed.

[WildNovember]

35. Because they disagree with your premise?

[blkmusclmachine]

42. Can you occupy an insane asylum??

[Raine]

49. It's not just the repugs, the whole system is rotten to the core. nt

[Kaleko]

63. Exactly. Repeat it ten thousand times

and it still doesn't sink in deeply enough with people who refuse to know.

[Kaleko]

52. Why, why, why are you acting

like a consumer entitled to make demands of a newly born grass roots movement?

[Dragonbreathp9d]

55. Unrec- strictly nonpartisan

[supraTruth]

70. Do U believe in the need for more & HIGHER tax brackets for the UBER-RICH? Show US 1 CON that also

is.

[piratefish08]

58. OWS is not after the right or the left. They are after the problem.

Collusion between the right, the left and the corporations.




simple.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

60. They're trying to overthrow a corrupt system not just some of the paid middlemen.

[supraTruth]

62. It is the CORRUPT CON "middle men" who have CORRUPTED the system. It is the republicans

who have corrupted our system the MOST.

GET RID OF THEM; & we can tax the 1% at higher rates again AND get rid of our FAILING DRUG WAR & iraq debacles.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

64. It's the system itself is corrupt. Get rid of the system, not just the middlemen.

[supraTruth]

68. WHAT "system" would U replace it with? Our present system was headed in the right direction as a

BLEND of capitalism & socialism until RAYgun & CONS began the UNDERMINING of it.

Capitalism gives US variety & variety is the spice of life.

However, BIG BUSINESS needs the counterweight of unions & social safety-nets like Social Security & Medicare to protect the young & powerless.

republiCONS are the 1's who WORK TIRELESSLY to undermine & destroy both unions AND our social safety-nets. Yes, too many Democrats have not fought hard enough to protect these needed structures; but more DO. The problem lies with CORPORATE MEDIA which support the CONS in order to enhance their own profits, & with TOO FEW of the 99% understanding how they have been CONNED by the CORPORATE MEDIA & republiCONS, & therefore their failure to VOTE. We do have the number if we would only use them.

[redgiant]

65. OMG! The Republicans would LOVE this!

Solidify the notion of OWS as partisan Democrat/Obama supporters, anti-GOP, and hand them a 2012 campaign issue.

The idiocy continues.

[supraTruth]

69. What good would it do them if the 99% VOTED AGAINST THEM?

[redgiant]

73. Why do you think the 99%

would vote against them? Just because they were occupied?

[mmonk]

66. The current problem is Wall Street's control of Washington and policy.

OWS is at the source.

[supraTruth]

71. & how will the OWS VOTE come NEXT NOVEMBER? With the CONS who refuse to raise tax rates for the

SUPER&ULTRA-RICH, or for President Obama & Democrats asking for that?

[TheKentuckian]

75. Because the TeaPubliKlans are just one branch of the Money Party.

Democratic "leadership" is a partner in the corruption, this did not happen by the Republicans alone.

[Edweird]

78. Because the problem isn't 'the republicans' - it's RW policies from BOTH parties.